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35 years since this team drafted a LB in the first round

lawguy9801 : 9/16/2019 8:09 am
Whether you’re a 4-3, 3-4 or whatever the hell Bettcher runs, if you dont have talent at the second level your defense will not be successful.

The decades-long blindspot on this team towards the LB corps is astounding.

And when was the last time the team hit on a mid or late round LB pick? Jessie Armstead?

Nauseating.
Connelly gets a lot of love here.  
penkap75 : 9/16/2019 8:27 am : link
I see he diagnoses plays correctly and will be in position. But more often then not, he is shoe string tackling, getting dragged for extra yards, gets trucked or outright whiffs. On occasion he makes a tackle in the backfield for a loss. I don't think he is an NFL starting calibur LB, but he can definitely start for our sad LB corp.
Let me sum up the response posts  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/16/2019 8:28 am : link
"Can we just see how X-Man and Zo Carter fare this year before we get all down in the dumps?"


"Hey so and so Con-nely? has showed some things"

"This is not the drafting philosophy we have"

"You know a strong line and great secondary is more important"


at any rate - I am with you dude...it astounds me
Switching to 3-4 and then not drafting high LBs is malpractice.  
penkap75 : 9/16/2019 8:35 am : link
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Why would you switch to a 3-4  
Rflairr : 9/16/2019 8:36 am : link
Without the players to run it. And then continue to run it, after a season where you saw that
The Eagles  
pjcas18 : 9/16/2019 8:37 am : link
haven't taken a LB in the 1st in 1979.

No coincidence  
gmenatlarge : 9/16/2019 8:38 am : link
that the giants are perennially soft in the middle of their D year after year.
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christian : 9/16/2019 8:46 am : link
The Giants down lineman were 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks.

The primary outside linebackers are 2 3rd round picks and 2 UFA from the coordinator's previous team.

Yesterday, the edge rushers had 3 sacks and 6 QB hits.

I'd argue the issue if anything is the inside linebackers and safeties.
Christian +1  
idiotsavant : 9/16/2019 9:59 am : link
One needs to stick with ones choice of the betcher, you hired him and give him the pieces he needs. Giants got their QB, but it was obvious that the ilbs and safeties couldn't do this scheme or contemporary football.

Possibly bench Pepper's and bathea and try the second string players, run without the slower ilbs, use your starting safeties at ilb and your extra corners, ballentine or the depth safeties, at safety.

It's also clear that they are putting the D play aspects in slowly, which could be players slow to learn or positional coaching.
Another possibility is use Carter at ilb or moneyb  
idiotsavant : 9/16/2019 10:03 am : link
If he had the speed. Also carlock may have been a better fit in this. Where's he at now non facetiously
Typo has not had  
idiotsavant : 9/16/2019 10:07 am : link
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It seems like in today's game  
idiotsavant : 9/16/2019 10:15 am : link
You need at least 1 lb with safety speed, who can cover, also to have both your safeties with legit free safety skills, to be able to go get the ball in the air and cover also. I'm not even sure Pepper's or bathea could even play ilb given that.

But you could try:

Olb ximines, Carter ilb, Pepper's ilb, golden olb.

That gives you a variable situation as to who is the extra pass rushers with Carter doing both. But I'm not sold that Pepper's can cover a TE.

Also, assign Carter to push the TE back at snap and make it a 10 on 10 game.
Here is the problem  
Rjanyg : 9/16/2019 10:28 am : link
We had a prime opportunity to grab and excellent piece for our defense in Josh Allen and decided to go with Jones, and I don't have an issue with drafting Jones. The problem seems to be that not only did we pass on Allen but supposedly made an attempt to trade with Detroit to get Allen only for Jacksonville to pounce on him with the 7th pick.

So, instead of moving up to draft Bryan Burns who is an excellent edge rusher and selected by Carolina with pick 16, we stay at 17 and draft Dexter Lawrence who is a very good DL but not the Pass Rusher we really need.

Then we move back into the end of the 1st round to draft Baker who we are not using properly.





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