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Giants are 6 point dogs vs TB

ron mexico : 9/16/2019 9:07 am
a game that even the pessimists penciled in as a win

ugh

Take that now before  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/16/2019 9:09 am : link
it goes up.
Jameis Winston will have a career day.  
penkap75 : 9/16/2019 9:10 am : link
This D makes any QB look like a future HOF'er.
TB is Not a Bad Team...  
Capt. Don : 9/16/2019 9:10 am : link
Good running game, one of the more underrated receiving corps and the defense is much improved.

If Jameis can limit turnovers - they could surprise some people.

I think a 6 pt spread is generous (to us) especially it being a home game for them.
Mike Evans is going to storm through this defense  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/16/2019 9:11 am : link
like a blitzkrieg.
RE: Jameis Winston will have a career day.  
Greg from LI : 9/16/2019 9:12 am : link
In comment 14579537 penkap75 said:
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This D makes any QB look like a future HOF'er.


Look at what Winston did to the Giants D last year. Almost brought them all the way back from a 31-14 deficit on the road.
Give me the Bucs  
Dnew15 : 9/16/2019 9:12 am : link
they win this game by 14.
Bruce Arians, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and OJ Howard will carve this defense up.
Easy money  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/16/2019 9:12 am : link
Give me Tampa... they'll cover easy. That offense (even with Winston making 3 or 4 boneheaded plays a game) will torch us for 30+ easily.
That's it?  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/16/2019 9:13 am : link
that should be 10.5...seriously, I expect it to rise...

BTW - Jackrabbit is stealing money
Every team aside from Miami  
Oscar : 9/16/2019 9:18 am : link
Will view the Giants game as an easy win. Doesn’t mean the Giants will go 1-15, just that they are 2019’s Browns, Lions, etc.
We'll get destroyed.  
bceagle05 : 9/16/2019 9:18 am : link
I thought we'd win 6-7 games due to our easy schedule - no chance. We're headed toward 3-13. Incredible.
RE: That's it?  
Greg from LI : 9/16/2019 9:19 am : link
In comment 14579552 I Love Clams Casino said:
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BTW - Jackrabbit is stealing money


He was easily the best player on D against the Cowboys.
RE: We'll get destroyed.  
Greg from LI : 9/16/2019 9:20 am : link
In comment 14579563 bceagle05 said:
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I thought we'd win 6-7 games due to our easy schedule - no chance. We're headed toward 3-13. Incredible.


Right now, I'd be surprised if they won 3. I don't know how he managed to do it, but Gettleman made a 5-11 team WORSE.
Sure  
justafan : 9/16/2019 9:20 am : link
we'll be 0-3. Hope they start DJ the following week.
RE: RE: We'll get destroyed.  
ron mexico : 9/16/2019 9:24 am : link
In comment 14579566 Greg from LI said:
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I thought we'd win 6-7 games due to our easy schedule - no chance. We're headed toward 3-13. Incredible.



Right now, I'd be surprised if they won 3. I don't know how he managed to do it, but Gettleman made a 5-11 team WORSE.


Getting rid of talented guys because they were unhappy with the losing could be the reason.
Vegas would actually bump us up if  
chuckydee9 : 9/16/2019 9:26 am : link
we move on from Eli.. this should tell you what people actually think of Eli's play.. its not just the defenses fault.. there is plenty of fault with our offense and the man that leads it..
RE: RE: That's it?  
Capt. Don : 9/16/2019 9:27 am : link
In comment 14579565 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14579552 I Love Clams Casino said:


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BTW - Jackrabbit is stealing money



He was easily the best player on D against the Cowboys.


The NFL trade deadline is week 8.
Sam Beal can come back from IR after week 8.
Trading Jenkins saves us $11.5M next year.
He was not signed by DG.
He is already becoming a malcontent via the media.

I think all this adds up to him being a goner.
RE: RE: We'll get destroyed.  
Big Rick in FL : 9/16/2019 9:28 am : link
In comment 14579566 Greg from LI said:
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I thought we'd win 6-7 games due to our easy schedule - no chance. We're headed toward 3-13. Incredible.



Right now, I'd be surprised if they won 3. I don't know how he managed to do it, but Gettleman made a 5-11 team WORSE.


The only reason they won 5 last year is because we played Chase Daniel, Sanchez/Josh Johnson, Ryan Fitzpatrick & Nick Mullens.

Idk why anybody thought this year would be better. We still have the same bad QB. We lost a very good WR and we have a ton of young guys/new guys on the defense. It was never about this year. It's about being better in 2020. We have to hope guys like Shepard, Engram, Hernandez, Lawrence, Hill, Zo, Baker, Ximines, Connelly etc etc improve.
they were at least somewhat competitive in a lot of the losses last  
Greg from LI : 9/16/2019 9:36 am : link
year. This season, they're just getting blown the fuck out.
Wow that's a lot more than thought  
micky : 9/16/2019 9:37 am : link
.
It's almost as if....  
Tesla : 9/16/2019 9:38 am : link
dumping 3 of your best players and drafting a kid at 6 who you refuse to play is a receipt for making your team worse instead of better.

Who could have predicted that???
Arians vs Shurmer  
GiantEgo : 9/16/2019 9:40 am : link
You do the math.
for the Bucs on your fantasy team  
Stu11 : 9/16/2019 9:46 am : link
play'em if you got'em!
RE: That's it?  
Stu11 : 9/16/2019 9:48 am : link
In comment 14579552 I Love Clams Casino said:
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BTW - Jackrabbit is stealing money

Yea that ship sailed at the trade deadline last year when he actually had value. Should have traded his ass.
This game hinges...  
bw in dc : 9/16/2019 9:49 am : link
on Winston. As we know, his career is at stake this year.

He was poor against the 9ers. But he rebounded well against Carolina.

If he's Dr. Jekyl Winston, Tampa will easily cover the 6. If he's Mr. Hyde Winston, the cover is down to 50/50. Either way, I think Tampa is a solid favorite.

As mentioned above, Tampa has a loaded receiving corp in Evans, Perriman, Goodwin, Howard, and Brate. Plus, the backs are reliable receiving threats.

So Bettcher's D is going to be up against it again. If we can't get consistent pressure, Winston may put up a 45+ spot in the sticky heat of Tampa...

RE: It's almost as if....  
HomerJones45 : 9/16/2019 9:52 am : link
In comment 14579639 Tesla said:
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dumping 3 of your best players and drafting a kid at 6 who you refuse to play is a receipt for making your team worse instead of better.

Who could have predicted that???
bizarre. I have never seen a team build by getting rid of almost all of its good vets who are under contract. This usually forms the base that you build around. We are more akin to an expansion team right now.
I'm caught between  
Matt in SGS : 9/16/2019 10:13 am : link
thinking the Giants lose by 20+ or get beat on a Matt Gay 67 yard field goal at the gun.
RE: Every team aside from Miami  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 9/16/2019 10:15 am : link
In comment 14579560 Oscar said:
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Will view the Giants game as an easy win. Doesn’t mean the Giants will go 1-15, just that they are 2019’s Browns, Lions, etc.


I see 1-15 as a strong possibility!
these games  
family progtitioner : 9/16/2019 10:24 am : link
can be weird. Giants fighting to win their first game after total humiliation the first 2. Winston can throw a lot of picks. If the Giants can keep it from becoming a runaway and utilize SB, they have a chance. Remember the Houston game last year.

It's hard to win only 1 or 2 games, NFL teams tend to sneak a few unlikely wins in no matter how awful they are.
RE: RE: Jameis Winston will have a career day.  
NoPeanutz : 9/16/2019 10:35 am : link
In comment 14579547 Greg from LI said:
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This D makes any QB look like a future HOF'er.



Look at what Winston did to the Giants D last year. Almost brought them all the way back from a 31-14 deficit on the road.


And this year we won't have DeSean Jaccson's lazy ass to screw up the offense and not come back for the ball.
TB giving 6 is a steal  
5BowlsSoon : 9/16/2019 11:11 am : link
I don’t see how NY can cover their receivers. And, it even looks like their defense has improved.

I also believe that 6 goes to 10 by gametime.
RE: Mike Evans is going to storm through this defense  
SomeFan : 9/16/2019 11:20 am : link
In comment 14579545 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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like a blitzkrieg.


This is likely his breakout game for this season. Godwin is pretty good too.
Giants have no chance. TB will cover easily.  
BroDox : 9/16/2019 1:17 pm : link
Might be easiest line to work this weekend. Give the points today....line will expand a point or two by Friday.
RE: RE: That's it?  
Bluesbreaker : 9/16/2019 1:50 pm : link
In comment 14579565 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14579552 I Love Clams Casino said:


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BTW - Jackrabbit is stealing money



He was easily the best player on D against the Cowboys.

He wasn't all that bad yesterday either with 7 solo tackles
and having to cover John Brown all day .
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