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Every year there are excuses for Eli

RUNYG : 9/16/2019 9:51 am
Fact of the matter is, this team has two wiNing seasons over the course of the past 7 years since the SB win. With making the playoffs just once.

First it was, it’s not Eli’s fault it’s coaching. McAdoo comes in and same results.


Then it was blame the OL and no rushing game. We draft Barkley

Now it’s coaching and he has no WRs.


So what is it? So great, Eli needs an elite OL, elite rushing game, elite coaching, elite WRs, elite defense, to succeed?
Reality  
Bruner4329 : 9/16/2019 9:56 am : link
No one is making excuses for Eli. How many threads do we need on the same topic/theme. The only excuse is that this team sucks from bottom to top. The biggest weakness is the defense. They can't stop anyone. Sure play Jones but the results will be the same. It won't make a difference if we played Tom Brady. We score 35 they will score 50.
Another person who is very happy about Eli's issues  
PatersonPlank : 9/16/2019 9:58 am : link
Some people are just so happy about this its weird
RE: Reality  
2cents : 9/16/2019 10:00 am : link
In comment 14579701 Bruner4329 said:
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No one is making excuses for Eli. How many threads do we need on the same topic/theme. The only excuse is that this team sucks from bottom to top. The biggest weakness is the defense. They can't stop anyone. Sure play Jones but the results will be the same. It won't make a difference if we played Tom Brady. We score 35 they will score 50.


what is this, 'scoring 35' you speak of? haven't seen an Eli lead team do that consistently in forever. Give me the 35 pt offense and ill take my chances with this defense.
RE: Reality  
okayrene : 9/16/2019 10:00 am : link
In comment 14579701 Bruner4329 said:
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No one is making excuses for Eli. How many threads do we need on the same topic/theme. The only excuse is that this team sucks from bottom to top. The biggest weakness is the defense. They can't stop anyone. Sure play Jones but the results will be the same. It won't make a difference if we played Tom Brady. We score 35 they will score 50.


Okay sure, but your offense can also help out the defense by not going 3 and out so consecutively. We knew the defense was going to be bad, but the play of the offense is really disappointing considering the two best weapons are still healthy in Engram and Barkley.
RE: Another person who is very happy about Eli's issues  
Justlurking : 9/16/2019 10:01 am : link
In comment 14579705 PatersonPlank said:
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Some people are just so happy about this its weird


I don’t think anyone is happy about it. I think that there are some who are objective about who is is now, and some who cannot separate the limited, bottom 5 qb he is now from the guy who won 2 Super Bowls.
I think there is a general consensus  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/16/2019 10:05 am : link
in the front office (for as laughable as this is) that we want to emulate the Patriots.

The Patriots do this with an old pocket passing style QB, why can't we?

The Patriots always beat these "shifty new style" QB's who run run run and have a ton of arm strength and great athleticism (see Patriots-Chiefs 2018 AFC Championship game) why can't we.

The team wants to be the Patriots, and the Patriots prove it can be done.
The WR being awful yesterday  
Dnew15 : 9/16/2019 10:23 am : link
is a FACT. The OL being terrible for the past 7 years is a FACT. MacDoo being a mess is a FACT. They are facts not excuses.
But it doesn't change the FACT that Eli is getting older and is just not as good as he used to be.

Fact is you cant run a normal offense with eli  
nygiants16 : 9/16/2019 10:28 am : link
because he cant move you have to be in shotgun to pass, he cant be under center..

You can not run normal play action roll outs and drop backs because he can npt move..

good pass protection and he still cant throw through open passing lanes..

he forces short dump offs rather than sitting in the pocket, he cant extend plays, hpw many plays did josh allen extend yesterday to find open guys?
Another fact  
RollBlue : 9/16/2019 10:31 am : link
Josh Allen is a lot better than most here said he would be. He was impressive with his accuracy yesterday. The Bill have something going with this young QB - Hopefully we can say the same about Jones. Big difference is the Bills have competent coaching, the Giants currently do not.
RE: Fact is you cant run a normal offense with eli  
TyreeHelmet : 9/16/2019 10:36 am : link
In comment 14579793 nygiants16 said:
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because he cant move you have to be in shotgun to pass, he cant be under center..

You can not run normal play action roll outs and drop backs because he can npt move..

good pass protection and he still cant throw through open passing lanes..

he forces short dump offs rather than sitting in the pocket, he cant extend plays, hpw many plays did josh allen extend yesterday to find open guys?


Exactly. And at this point in his career- what does Eli do well? Aside from his durability, he no longer has any above average attributes of an nfl QB. It’s beyond time to move on and it’s bizarre they keep holding on. And please stop with the Brady/ Pats comparisons....
My  
PaulN : 9/16/2019 10:59 am : link
Opinion is only an idiot fan blames the QB when the team stinks, but at this point, Eli stinks, he is one of the worst QB's in the league, you add in the fact that this is seriously lacking in talent and that we have horrible coaching, as bad or worse then any head coach we ever had, and this is what you get. Add in an owner that is so concerned about Eli's, and I assume his own legacy that he refuses to move forward, so we are stuck in shit.
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