What do we think off him after these past two games. He’s putting up crazy numbers against some bad defenses but still. Is it possible that he’s the bes t QB from last years draft? I loved watching him in college but I was unsure if it would translate to the NFL.
Thanks for the insight
Well thats just like, your opinion man...
We’ll see if he keeps it up against better competition.
Should be how long he can hold up
This is why, despite being a fan of his, I didn't want the Giants to draft him. I knew they'd never build an unorthodox offense around him, and trying to force him into a conventional offense wouldn't really work.
Two words - Greg Roman. He was in San Fran with Jim Harbaugh to build that offense around Kaepernick. He's very shrewd and underrated as an OC.
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He always had a good deep ball and they got him some burners to take advantage of that while creating space in the running game. It's an example of franchise seeing an opportunity in an unorthodox but talented QB falling to the bottom of the first round and having the vision to build an offense around him. Most teams and coaches square peg round hole it but Harbaugh and the Ravens took a chance on Jackson with a vision and a plan. I'm rooting for them in the AFC.
Two words - Greg Roman. He was in San Fran with Jim Harbaugh to build that offense around Kaepernick. He's very shrewd and underrated as an OC.
Possible next head coach of the Giants?
Possible next head coach of the Giants?
Good question. I think he'd be worth an interview. I think you can throw out his stint as OC in Buffalo under Ryan because that was just a mess up there in Ryan's second year. But Roman did some nice work with Taylor...another mobile playmaker.
Looked like a QB, not a dart thrower.
He placed a long pass down the sideline right in the motherflipping bucket. It was a ballsy throw, on 3rd down as they were working the clock at the end of the game. Had the Giants attempted it in a similar situation I would have lost my mind.
Possible next head coach of the Giants?
Nah, the Giants will hire someone like Chuck Pagano.
There is a way to do it. Do what they did in regards to Eli.
There is a way to do it. Do what they did in regards to Eli.
He did start the first 9 games last year. The Ravens were more talented though and a lot of people thought they were underperforming. The Giants don't have nearly the talent the Ravens do on defense. Did anyone expect the Giants to win more than a handful of games this year? While most of us would love to see Jones as soon as possible, we're pretty numb and indifferent about the Giants at this point.
Also, when looking up how many games Flacco started last year I saw that he threw 3 TD's in a 47-3 beatdown week 1. Wild that that was just over a year ago...
Tbat said, I wouldn't be foed by the last 2 games. He has never shown this accuracy/efficiency before. I'm vey interwsted to sse him against a decent D first. But, he is also the biggest weapon at the position running the ball.
Tbat said, I wouldn't be foed by the last 2 games. He has never shown this accuracy/efficiency before. I'm vey interwsted to sse him against a decent D first. But, he is also the biggest weapon at the position running the ball.
I threw my hat into the ring for LaJax in 2018. I thought there was enough athletically to invest in the potential upside.
If you look at his 3 years of Louisville, he was trending the right way for accuracy. He went: 54.7%, 56.2% and his last year was 59.1%. So he started to show signs of being a potentially reliable passer.
I still need to see more - as should most of us - but he's a real weapon so far. Harbaugh is a very smart coach. So Jax's development shouldn't come as a surprise...
The Case for Lamar Jackson - ( New Window )
I believed LJ would have a good career and that Josh Allen would not. It's fun for me to see if these self predictions work out.
That would have meant no Eli, so for this ownership and front office that would have been a non starter. Besides, it's dubious as to whether Jackson would have sold as many Toyotas and as much Dunkin Donuts as Jones figures to.
Someone said this on a thread a little while back, and it was brilliant: the Giants don't try to win - they hope to win.
This organization is a fucking joke.
You're right... They're doing great.
Hats off to you Go Terps....you look pretty damned good reading that thread in retrospect. Nicely done.
If so, I think it worked out for you... ;)
Jesus, some fools in that thread.
If so, I think it worked out for you... ;)
Jones wouldn't have been my first selection, but if we were taking a first round quarterback it had to be him. It could not be Haskins or Lock.
But we should have taken Jackson last year.
Taking Jax at #2 would have been over-drafting him. But taking him late first or second would have been the right value.
But what we ended up actually doing didn't work.
But what we ended up actually doing didn't work.
We've been over this ground quite a bit. So I couldn't agree more.
Meanwhile, we invest the #2 pick in Barkely, who is a tremendous offensive machine, but we aren't fully utilizing his talents. His # of touches should be 30% more than they are now...at least.
Good to see you back on the board, btw. I take it the new little Terps has arrived?
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Or, taking Chubb/Nelson and trading back up into the first round to get Jackson would have worked too. The foolishness of drafting a running back #2 overall would have been softened by pairing him in a backfield with Jackson - that would have worked too.
But what we ended up actually doing didn't work.
We've been over this ground quite a bit. So I couldn't agree more.
Meanwhile, we invest the #2 pick in Barkely, who is a tremendous offensive machine, but we aren't fully utilizing his talents. His # of touches should be 30% more than they are now...at least.
Good to see you back on the board, btw. I take it the new little Terps has arrived?
Not yet. Halloween. I was gonna take a break but if I don't vent here my brain will explode. It is incredible how poorly this team is managed and coached.
Completely agree on Barkley. Incredible player, completely wasted here. If they aren't going to fire Shurmur this week (I would, but they obviously won't), then they might as well trade Barkley before an injury or something lowers his value. We're not going anywhere for a while.
Baker's confidence looks pretty shot already at corner (not sure they are scheming properly for him). Lawrence looks okay, but he needs to make a far better impression in the pass rush area. While I'm not a Jones guy (yet), he needs to play ASAP. But how can anyone be confident right now that he's in good hands with Shurmur?
So I think this narrative being pushed by some that Gettleman has nailed these two last drafts needs to be halted. Outside of Barkley, who is right in the mix for the league's best RB, where are the other true standouts from the Gettleman drafts?
Baker's confidence looks pretty shot already at corner (not sure they are scheming properly for him). Lawrence looks okay, but he needs to make a far better impression in the pass rush area. While I'm not a Jones guy (yet), he needs to play ASAP. But how can anyone be confident right now that he's in good hands with Shurmur?
So I think this narrative being pushed by some that Gettleman has nailed these two last drafts needs to be halted. Outside of Barkley, who is right in the mix for the league's best RB, where are the other true standouts from the Gettleman drafts?
There aren't any. And while I like Lawrence I'm concerned his ceiling is a two down plugger (i.e. an outdated way to use the 17th pick overall).
My assessment is that we'll be "starting over" at GM and HC again after a bad 2020 season.
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But, last year I did say I would consider a trade (up or down) to take him. I thoughthe had a shot to have the best fesults.
Tbat said, I wouldn't be foed by the last 2 games. He has never shown this accuracy/efficiency before. I'm vey interwsted to sse him against a decent D first. But, he is also the biggest weapon at the position running the ball.
I threw my hat into the ring for LaJax in 2018. I thought there was enough athletically to invest in the potential upside.
If you look at his 3 years of Louisville, he was trending the right way for accuracy. He went: 54.7%, 56.2% and his last year was 59.1%. So he started to show signs of being a potentially reliable passer.
I still need to see more - as should most of us - but he's a real weapon so far. Harbaugh is a very smart coach. So Jax's development shouldn't come as a surprise...
Baker's confidence looks pretty shot already at corner (not sure they are scheming properly for him). Lawrence looks okay, but he needs to make a far better impression in the pass rush area. While I'm not a Jones guy (yet), he needs to play ASAP. But how can anyone be confident right now that he's in good hands with Shurmur?
So I think this narrative being pushed by some that Gettleman has nailed these two last drafts needs to be halted. Outside of Barkley, who is right in the mix for the league's best RB, where are the other true standouts from the Gettleman drafts?
I don't really understand this take. So Miami is bad. And they blew their doors off through the air. It's exactly what a good team should do. I'm not sure why we can't comment on it given that people were adamant that "he's a Runningback playing QB and can't throw"
Granted, playing well against two bottom barrel teams is worth pointing out here. He's not Tim Tebow with a horrendous baseball wind up. The guy can throw and his legs make him very difficult to defend or keep in the pocket.
I would loved to have managed a Barkley/Jackson draft last year.
I didn't have much faith in Baltimore going anywhere last year with the way he was throwing the ball, but he's certainly made some improvements and looks better to me.
Cmon, man, this is the same stuff people were saying in that 18 month old thread Terps linked. I said it in that thread and I'll say it again - he's NOT a "running QB" in the sense most people use the term. He's a passer who is also an incredible runner. He doesn't just bolt the pocket at the first available opportunity, he runs to buy time while still looking to get the ball downfield.
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back and forth over several years. Running quarterbacks have absolutely had success in the league before. Sustaining that success, either by avoiding injury or becoming good pocket passers, has been rare.
Cmon, man, this is the same stuff people were saying in that 18 month old thread Terps linked. I said it in that thread and I'll say it again - he's NOT a "running QB" in the sense most people use the term. He's a passer who is also an incredible runner. He doesn't just bolt the pocket at the first available opportunity, he runs to buy time while still looking to get the ball downfield.
I quite like what we have seen from Lamar. And I think now it was a blunder for so many teams to overlook him, but he has had accuracy issues on short and intermediate passes. Lofting long balls he has no problems with.
People always say that, but Terps always winds up being right.
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Didn't you have Jones as your top QB prospect this year?
If so, I think it worked out for you... ;)
Jones wouldn't have been my first selection, but if we were taking a first round quarterback it had to be him. It could not be Haskins or Lock.
But we should have taken Jackson last year.
What's depressing to ponder: I bet it wasn't even remotely a consideration. I imagine the Giants literally would not have drafted Jackson no matter what.