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Big Ben out for the Year

figgy2989 : 9/16/2019 11:52 am
as per Schefter.

Wow  
cokeduplt : 9/16/2019 11:53 am : link
It’s seem like it’s out with the old and in with the new everywhere(except NE) How did Rudolph look yesterday?
Eli  
Jints in Carolina : 9/16/2019 11:54 am : link
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Didn't they just extend him?  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 11:54 am : link
?
They just traded Dobbs last week  
figgy2989 : 9/16/2019 11:54 am : link
to Jax.
RE: Didn't they just extend him?  
figgy2989 : 9/16/2019 11:55 am : link
In comment 14580066 Britt in VA said:
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They did, now under contract through 2021.
For as much  
Br00klyn : 9/16/2019 11:57 am : link
shit as Eli gets from the Giants fan base, the guy truly does deserve so much credit for never missing a game over 16 years! Regardless if its luck or him being "smart" to avoid injuries, its stunning that he hasnt even got a freak injury like what Brees or Ben just got.
Not to sound macabre, but an Eli injury would clean up this mess the  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/16/2019 11:58 am : link
ownership has created.
The  
AcidTest : 9/16/2019 11:59 am : link
one benefit we have is that this is the last year of Eli's contract, so there will be no cap hit when he's not resigned next year.
RE: Not to sound macabre, but an Eli injury would clean up this mess the  
GiantEgo : 9/16/2019 12:01 pm : link
In comment 14580080 Zeke's Alibi said:
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ownership has created.

Shame on you.
RE: Not to sound macabre, but an Eli injury would clean up this mess the  
widmerseyebrow : 9/16/2019 12:02 pm : link
In comment 14580080 Zeke's Alibi said:
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ownership has created.


I want Jones to start too but get a grip.
RE: Not to sound macabre, but an Eli injury would clean up this mess the  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/16/2019 12:02 pm : link
In comment 14580080 Zeke's Alibi said:
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ownership has created.


You are not wrong.

The Steelers purged out Bell and Brown. But with Ben now down for the year and a very good QB crop set for the 2020 draft, everything is lined for them to make the transition to the future faster than they even could have imagined by drafting their next franchise QB.

And they don't have to be cute about it or figure out "the right way" to send him off on his way like their sister franchise in the NFC.
This is what happens when your offseason workouts consist of  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/16/2019 12:03 pm : link
grabbing chicks to rape in the bathroom and slinging beers.
They don't need Manning to get injured.  
Britt in VA : 9/16/2019 12:03 pm : link
They can just sit him down when they are ready for Jones.
.  
GiantEgo : 9/16/2019 12:04 pm : link
Your a bunch of demented animals. Sickening.
RE: RE: Not to sound macabre, but an Eli injury would clean up this mess the  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/16/2019 12:04 pm : link
In comment 14580093 widmerseyebrow said:
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In comment 14580080 Zeke's Alibi said:


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ownership has created.



I want Jones to start too but get a grip.


I wasn't rooting for an injury, just stating it seems like the only way this can be handled without it being a clusyerfuck. Although that ship has probably sailed.
Listen, if they wanted to they could always couch  
jcn56 : 9/16/2019 12:06 pm : link
and Eli benching as related to an injury. He doesn't actually have to get hurt.

Though I don't think Eli would care as much about saving face.
That might be it for him.  
Anakim : 9/16/2019 12:08 pm : link
Great career, but a piece of dogshit off the field
Wow!  
ZogZerg : 9/16/2019 12:08 pm : link
He wasn't just being a drama Queen yesterday.

So, let's see..

Jet's done
Steeler's done
Giants' done
Saints done
Jags done

I'm sure I'm missing a team somewhere.
RE: That might be it for him.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/16/2019 12:10 pm : link
In comment 14580121 Anakim said:
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Great career, but a piece of dogshit off the field


Crazy Big Ben and Eli out in the same year.
Interesting tidbit from one of the articles  
ron mexico : 9/16/2019 12:10 pm : link
Tomlin added that the Steelers did not have to make any adjustments to their offensive game plan after Rudolph entered the game. Rudolph, who also spoke to reporters following Sunday's game, said that the extra reps he receives on Wednesday — Big Ben's standard rest day — helped prepare him for this opportunity.

"You gotta be prepared for those situations whenever your number is called," he said. "I thought I was ready. I had a really good feel for the age plan … I had a lot of reps this week, and I didn't feel like I was unprepared, by any means."


Should we start giving Eli rest days?
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RE: Wow!  
Anakim : 9/16/2019 12:10 pm : link
In comment 14580123 ZogZerg said:
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He wasn't just being a drama Queen yesterday.

So, let's see..

Jet's done
Steeler's done
Giants' done
Saints done
Jags done

I'm sure I'm missing a team somewhere.


You forgot our fish friends down in Miami
RE: Wow!  
Matt in SGS : 9/16/2019 12:10 pm : link
In comment 14580123 ZogZerg said:
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He wasn't just being a drama Queen yesterday.

So, let's see..

Jet's done
Steeler's done
Giants' done
Saints done
Jags done

I'm sure I'm missing a team somewhere.


Dolphins, but that's going according to plan.
RE: Wow!  
NoPeanutz : 9/16/2019 12:13 pm : link
In comment 14580123 ZogZerg said:
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He wasn't just being a drama Queen yesterday.

So, let's see..

Jet's done
Steeler's done
Giants' done
Saints done
Jags done

I'm sure I'm missing a team somewhere.

Dolphins, obviously.
Bradshaw's  
AcidTest : 9/16/2019 12:13 pm : link
career was also ended by an injury to his throwing elbow.
RE: Didn't they just extend him?  
BillT : 9/16/2019 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14580066 Britt in VA said:
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Two years. $25m in dead money if cut next year with $8.5m cap relief.
RE: RE: Didn't they just extend him?  
ron mexico : 9/16/2019 12:17 pm : link
In comment 14580138 BillT said:
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Two years. $25m in dead money if cut next year with $8.5m cap relief.


2020 salary guaranteed for injury only

would be a huge cap hit but they may have to do it. Not sure if they get any relief if he retires?
RE: Wow!  
Nine-Tails : 9/16/2019 12:17 pm : link
In comment 14580123 ZogZerg said:
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He wasn't just being a drama Queen yesterday.

So, let's see..

Jet's done
Steeler's done
Giants' done
Saints done
Jags done

I'm sure I'm missing a team somewhere.


Jags ain’t done, not with the legend Gardner Minshew leading them boys
Damn.  
Beezer : 9/16/2019 12:18 pm : link
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Looking at the contract  
ron mexico : 9/16/2019 12:20 pm : link
They can probably get out of the 12.5 roster bonus due on the 3rd day of the league.

Would still be on the hook for 8.5 of salary guaranteed for injury and 25 mil of signing bonus so 33.5 mil of dead cap

ouch
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Steelers will be in the race to the bottom with us.  
justafan : 9/16/2019 12:23 pm : link
Who is the worst: Miami, Arizona, Giants, or Pittsburgh? Anyone I'm missing? Maybe Washington?
Easy Peasy  
Pork Chop : 9/16/2019 12:27 pm : link
trade Eli to Pitt, start DJ

Somehow have to get Eli to waive the no-trade clause, but it makes all the sense in the world.
RE: Steelers will be in the race to the bottom with us.  
Toth029 : 9/16/2019 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14580163 justafan said:
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Who is the worst: Miami, Arizona, Giants, or Pittsburgh? Anyone I'm missing? Maybe Washington?

Cincinnati, NY Jets, Jacksonville,
or what about Saints (Brees is out for half the year)
RE: Easy Peasy  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/16/2019 12:29 pm : link
In comment 14580184 Pork Chop said:
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trade Eli to Pitt, start DJ

Somehow have to get Eli to waive the no-trade clause, but it makes all the sense in the world.


For everybody but the one person who can decide where he wants to play.
RE: RE: Easy Peasy  
Pork Chop : 9/16/2019 12:32 pm : link
In comment 14580203 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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trade Eli to Pitt, start DJ

Somehow have to get Eli to waive the no-trade clause, but it makes all the sense in the world.



For everybody but the one person who can decide where he wants to play.


Wouldn't Eli rather play for the Steelers than this train wreck?
RE: Not to sound macabre, but an Eli injury would clean up this mess the  
eli4life : 9/16/2019 12:33 pm : link
In comment 14580080 Zeke's Alibi said:
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ownership has created.


Injury no for shame but an “injury “ for him to save face I’ve seen worse even though he’s not the type that would need that. Ben I could see needing it when it’s over
RE: RE: Wow!  
Diver_Down : 9/16/2019 12:35 pm : link
In comment 14580145 Nine-Tails said:
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In comment 14580123 ZogZerg said:


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He wasn't just being a drama Queen yesterday.

So, let's see..

Jet's done
Steeler's done
Giants' done
Saints done
Jags done

I'm sure I'm missing a team somewhere.



Jags ain’t done, not with the legend Gardner Minshew leading them boys ...


to the bottom of the AFC South. They are 0-2. If they lose against the Titans this Thursday, they won't have to rush Foles back to save the season as it will be over.
RE: RE: RE: Easy Peasy  
V.I.G. : 9/16/2019 12:36 pm : link
In comment 14580220 Pork Chop said:
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Wouldn't Eli rather play for the Steelers than this train wreck?

what makes you think the Steelers want Eli?
RE: RE: RE: Wow!  
Nine-Tails : 9/16/2019 12:41 pm : link
In comment 14580228 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 14580145 Nine-Tails said:


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In comment 14580123 ZogZerg said:


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He wasn't just being a drama Queen yesterday.

So, let's see..

Jet's done
Steeler's done
Giants' done
Saints done
Jags done

I'm sure I'm missing a team somewhere.



Jags ain’t done, not with the legend Gardner Minshew leading them boys ...



to the bottom of the AFC South. They are 0-2. If they lose against the Titans this Thursday, they won't have to rush Foles back to save the season as it will be over.


Why so serious
RE: This is what happens when your offseason workouts consist of  
HoustonGiant : 9/16/2019 12:44 pm : link
In comment 14580100 Zeke's Alibi said:
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grabbing chicks to rape in the bathroom and slinging beers.


LOL, he's such a scumbag
RE: They don't need Manning to get injured.  
Scuzzlebutt : 9/16/2019 12:44 pm : link
In comment 14580101 Britt in VA said:
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They can just sit him down when they are ready for Jones.


+1... not sure what makes this a mess? This is a transition and everyone knows what's happening. Just a matter of when.
They could take Eli if they want  
5BowlsSoon : 9/16/2019 12:52 pm : link
Anyone else willing to sacrifice Eli to help old friends out?
RE: Easy Peasy  
bw in dc : 9/16/2019 1:00 pm : link
In comment 14580184 Pork Chop said:
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trade Eli to Pitt, start DJ

Somehow have to get Eli to waive the no-trade clause, but it makes all the sense in the world.


The Maras and Rooneys are fine marrying one another. But trading QBs? Especially a NY icon like Eli? I can't see that in a million years...

RE: They could take Eli if they want  
TyreeHelmet : 9/16/2019 1:18 pm : link
In comment 14580293 5BowlsSoon said:
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Anyone else willing to sacrifice Eli to help old friends out?


Sure why not. Just have Pitt send a 1st and 3rd...
Eli, Brees, Big Ben, Rivers - all are pretty much done  
PatersonPlank : 9/16/2019 1:37 pm : link
End of an era
Interesting  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/16/2019 1:43 pm : link
Bradshaw I believe had the same situation at the end.
If Eli is benched, there will be no fake injury  
GeofromNJ : 9/16/2019 1:53 pm : link
Shurmur will simply tell him he's starting Jones and Eli should stand ready to come into the game if Jone's gets injured. I don't think Shurmur, Gettleman, or Mara/Tisch care about Eli's sensitive nature. He's being paid $23 million to lose. So take a seat, Eli.
Posted above comment on the wrong thread  
GeofromNJ : 9/16/2019 1:54 pm : link
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RE: Wow!  
BillKo : 9/16/2019 1:57 pm : link
In comment 14580123 ZogZerg said:
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He wasn't just being a drama Queen yesterday.

So, let's see..

Jet's done
Steeler's done
Giants' done
Saints done
Jags done

I'm sure I'm missing a team somewhere.


Why are the Saints done? They are 1-1, get Brees back in 6 weeks.......they just need to stay afloat.
hmm  
giantfan2000 : 9/16/2019 2:00 pm : link
do you think Steelers would trade for Eli ?

RE: hmm  
TyreeHelmet : 9/16/2019 2:30 pm : link
In comment 14580541 giantfan2000 said:
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do you think Steelers would trade for Eli ?


Putting aside the cap situation, is Eli even an upgrade over Rudolph? And even if they they think he is, is it worth to bring him, have to wait for him to learn the playbook and not get to see what they have in Rudolph?
RE: Steelers will be in the race to the bottom with us.  
Dinger : 9/16/2019 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14580163 justafan said:
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Who is the worst: Miami, Arizona, Giants, or Pittsburgh? Anyone I'm missing? Maybe Washington?


God what a sorry, but true thought as a Giants fan. ugh....I don't think the steelers are in the same boat as us though. They have a proven winner for a coach, some decent talent and a competent front office. Miami and Arizona are right next to us on the Titanic though....
PSST  
Thegratefulhead : 9/16/2019 2:53 pm : link
No one wants Eli, stop trying to trade him.
RE: RE: RE: Not to sound macabre, but an Eli injury would clean up this mess the  
81_Great_Dane : 9/16/2019 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14580108 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 14580080 Zeke's Alibi said:


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ownership has created.



I want Jones to start too but get a grip.



I wasn't rooting for an injury, just stating it seems like the only way this can be handled without it being a clusyerfuck. Although that ship has probably sailed.
Not true. If the season continues to spiral downward and the offense isn't putting up points, it'll be easy to make the change.
Eli  
nochance : 9/16/2019 5:02 pm : link
Who exactly did Eli have to throw to yesterday at WR. SS has a concussion, Golden Tate is still suspended, their rookie speed wr Slayton is out with a hammy and they just traded OBJ. Just Latimer and glorified practice squad players.
Mason Rudolph has some ability and upside  
Torrag : 9/16/2019 5:08 pm : link
Remains to be seen if he can think/react the game at this level. This is his shot.
did they ever confirm what the injury was?  
ron mexico : 9/20/2019 1:33 pm : link
looked like one of those non contact ACL tears but in elbow form.
RE: did they ever confirm what the injury was?  
giants#1 : 9/20/2019 1:40 pm : link
In comment 14589743 ron mexico said:
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looked like one of those non contact ACL tears but in elbow form.


Isn't that the UCL? And doesn't it require Tommy John surgery?
He's getting Tommy John  
bradshaw44 : 9/20/2019 1:46 pm : link
They announced it.
What does that mean for the rest of his career you think?  
Britt in VA : 9/20/2019 1:46 pm : link
?
RE: What does that mean for the rest of his career you think?  
bradshaw44 : 9/20/2019 1:54 pm : link
In comment 14589763 Britt in VA said:
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See Jake Delhomme. After his Tommy John at several years younger he never came back to form.
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