From this morning's Shurmur conference call:
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Shurmur said Eli’s been the starter to this point. He wouldn’t commit to anything beyond that. Said they’re looking at everything going forward.
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That would seem to be a big red flare in the sky to me.
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@Giants
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Coach Shurmur: Cody Latimer has a concussion. Sterling Shepard is improving from his concussion.
@JordanRaanan
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Pat Shurmur won't fully commit to Eli Manning as the starter. He says that "he's been our starter so far." They evaluate every position every week. When told that he's leaving Daniel Jones vs Eli open for debate, Shurmur says he "understands."
Now is the time.
I know, others scoffed at this but, playoff possible teams with QB issues- Jags, Steelers, Saints so far, could come a calling for a VET as insurance. We could get a loaf a bread and I would be happy.
Either way, the Giants need to play Jones NOW!
@art_stapleton
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Pat Shurmur leaves door open to making a change at quarterback, but says that’s the case for all positions. Discussion will be had internally, but not ready to talk about any of the options publicly. #NYGiants
@MikeGarafolo
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I mean, from the minute they turned the card in at the draft, they knew the situation. As did Eli. If it’s not imminent, it’s on deck.
@RapSheet
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#Giants coach Pat Shurmur leaves the door open...
@giantswfan
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#Giants #Shurmur - focus is on winning the next game while keeping long-term view in mind
On the flip-side, Jones is familiar with the 2nd string WRS.
Jason La Canfora
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Giants are ever so gradually cracking the door to a potential QB change that seems frankly inevitable to most. Team admits that QB position should be under review like everything else
See, I don't agree with this. If they want Jones to be the starter, he needs to get his reps in with the first team during the week. By doing what you said, you are just setting him up for failure.
Quite possibly but, kind of a shitty thing for Jones. You go in if the 1st line struggles and you are behind and had less than the full work week with the starters.
Cut the cord PS.. It is fucking time..
Grandpa can't see or hear and shouldn't be driving anymore. The dog is lame, no more hunting trips. The bananas are ready for making bread not straight up eating any more...
It is Jones time!
@Giants
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Coach Shurmur: Cody Latimer has a concussion. Sterling Shepard is improving from his concussion.
If the NFL was serious about player safety, they would allow a coaches challenge on helmet to helmet. That was a serious hit/non-call.
It sucks to be ownership and GM right now.
One thing can change that entirely and flip it on its heels.
Daniel Jones wins in Tampa.
All of a sudden everything is pointing up.
It is happening, they just haven't told Eli yet.
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until Shepard and Tate are playing. There's very little separation there for Eli to take advantage of, it's not going to be any different for Jones. Do they really want to put him into a situation like he was in at Duke???
On the flip-side, Jones is familiar with the 2nd string WRS.
That's so funny its sad
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and if the Giants struggle after the 1Q or first half, Eli's getting the hook. That's what I'm reading here.
See, I don't agree with this. If they want Jones to be the starter, he needs to get his reps in with the first team during the week. By doing what you said, you are just setting him up for failure.
I agree 100%
either way he needs to start taking some of Eli's practice reps
@NYPost_Schwartz
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Pat Shurmur said he does not want to be dishonest. He simply is not ready to say Eli Manning starts the next game.
@giantswfan
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#Shumur - DSlayton will practice this week...he is closer
I think thats a terrible idea, just start him
Get off the site Archie... Your sons have multiple SB victories and MVP;s, it is time.,..
Agree 100%. You don’t want to put that much pressure on a rookie. Without any help, it can just hurt him more. Last thing we need is for all the Giants rookies to suck ass..
He handled it horribly and didn't have a #6 draft pick on the bench to transition to... but in the end, he was right about the need for a change at QB.
Joey, there are a number of places now where Eli could end up. He had better understand his position here.
He is not better than many QB's in the league at this point, Teddy B included
@NYPost_Schwartz
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Pat Shurmur said he does not want to be dishonest. He simply is not ready to say Eli Manning starts the next game.
This is the most telling. I think it's happening this week and it should.
what makes you think the Saints want Eli?
@giantswfan
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#Shumur - DSlayton will practice this week...he is closer
I'm excited about Slayton. He has produced all spring/summer when healthy
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Is out for an extended period of time I call the Saints. Eli can play on that offense.
He is not better than many QB's in the league at this point, Teddy B included
I don't think Eli is good at all. He's better than Bridgewater.
Bridgewater plays with some of the best weapons in the game and a very good OL. Here are his numbers in 2 games with the Saints.
He's completing 58% of his passes for 283 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT and 1 fumble lost.
He's completing 58% of his passes for 283 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT and 1 fumble lost.
kind of late 30s eli numbers, no?
they are rolling with rudolph he had a good preseason and he is their heir apparent
Agree, no team with playoff dreams and an injured starter are looking at Eli and be like he could keep us in the hunt. First there was the colts, they locked up Brissett, then the jags and Minshew is playing great for sixth rd pick. The Steelers have Rudolph and the saints have teddy
THIS!
Shurmur knows that the only way he can justify a disastrous season is to put Jones in and say that any mistakes are the function of him being a rookie. I also think Shurmur is understandably frustrated that Eli can't run his offense, which needs a mobile QB. How much of his playbook can't be used because Eli is completely immobile?
Wow, only one TD and 8 yards behind, and with Ben out for the season, he might be done.
Eli starts the game, but Jones replaces him if Eli falters and the Giants get down by 14 points. If that doesn't happen, then Jones starts against the Redskins.