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1st sign that a QB change is coming soon:

Tom in NY : 9/16/2019 12:21 pm
From this morning's Shurmur conference call:


Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Shurmur said Eli’s been the starter to this point. He wouldn’t commit to anything beyond that. Said they’re looking at everything going forward.
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That would seem to be a big red flare in the sky to me.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/16/2019 12:24 pm : link
New York Giants
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Coach Shurmur: Cody Latimer has a concussion. Sterling Shepard is improving from his concussion.
Drink plenty of fluids this week Daniel  
figgy2989 : 9/16/2019 12:24 pm : link
Going to be very hot down in Tampa.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/16/2019 12:24 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
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Pat Shurmur won't fully commit to Eli Manning as the starter. He says that "he's been our starter so far." They evaluate every position every week. When told that he's leaving Daniel Jones vs Eli open for debate, Shurmur says he "understands."
It needs to be this week  
jvm52106 : 9/16/2019 12:24 pm : link
as the Bucs defense is not solid and the away crowd will not be so hostile that he gets flustered. A home crowd, with huge expectations would be shitty if he struggles.

Now is the time.

I know, others scoffed at this but, playoff possible teams with QB issues- Jags, Steelers, Saints so far, could come a calling for a VET as insurance. We could get a loaf a bread and I would be happy.

Either way, the Giants need to play Jones NOW!
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/16/2019 12:25 pm : link
Art Stapleton
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Pat Shurmur leaves door open to making a change at quarterback, but says that’s the case for all positions. Discussion will be had internally, but not ready to talk about any of the options publicly. #NYGiants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/16/2019 12:25 pm : link
Mike Garafolo
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I mean, from the minute they turned the card in at the draft, they knew the situation. As did Eli. If it’s not imminent, it’s on deck.
I would not make the switch  
cactus : 9/16/2019 12:25 pm : link
until Shepard and Tate are playing. There's very little separation there for Eli to take advantage of, it's not going to be any different for Jones. Do they really want to put him into a situation like he was in at Duke???
I think Eli starts  
Matt in SGS : 9/16/2019 12:25 pm : link
and if the Giants struggle after the 1Q or first half, Eli's getting the hook. That's what I'm reading here.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/16/2019 12:26 pm : link
Ian Rapoport
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#Giants coach Pat Shurmur leaves the door open...
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/16/2019 12:27 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Giants #Shurmur - focus is on winning the next game while keeping long-term view in mind
RE: I would not make the switch  
PEEJ : 9/16/2019 12:27 pm : link
In comment 14580177 cactus said:
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until Shepard and Tate are playing. There's very little separation there for Eli to take advantage of, it's not going to be any different for Jones. Do they really want to put him into a situation like he was in at Duke???

On the flip-side, Jones is familiar with the 2nd string WRS.
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DanMetroMan : 9/16/2019 12:28 pm : link

Jason La Canfora
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Giants are ever so gradually cracking the door to a potential QB change that seems frankly inevitable to most. Team admits that QB position should be under review like everything else
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Kyle in NY : 9/16/2019 12:28 pm : link
I'm getting the sense that Shurmur would like to make the switch. Frustration is building
RE: I think Eli starts  
figgy2989 : 9/16/2019 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14580178 Matt in SGS said:
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and if the Giants struggle after the 1Q or first half, Eli's getting the hook. That's what I'm reading here.


See, I don't agree with this. If they want Jones to be the starter, he needs to get his reps in with the first team during the week. By doing what you said, you are just setting him up for failure.
Allows them to keep his career record at .500  
FranknWeezer : 9/16/2019 12:28 pm : link
and retain the option to "start" him one last time late in the season if by chance we are playing a team that has tanked, somehow sucks worse than we do or is resting its starters for the playoffs.
I'll believe it when I see it.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/16/2019 12:28 pm : link
I think if they get to 0-4 they make a change.
RE: I think Eli starts  
jvm52106 : 9/16/2019 12:29 pm : link
In comment 14580178 Matt in SGS said:
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and if the Giants struggle after the 1Q or first half, Eli's getting the hook. That's what I'm reading here.


Quite possibly but, kind of a shitty thing for Jones. You go in if the 1st line struggles and you are behind and had less than the full work week with the starters.

Cut the cord PS.. It is fucking time..

Grandpa can't see or hear and shouldn't be driving anymore. The dog is lame, no more hunting trips. The bananas are ready for making bread not straight up eating any more...

It is Jones time!
its happening  
Br00klyn : 9/16/2019 12:29 pm : link
its really happening
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aka dbrny : 9/16/2019 12:29 pm : link
In comment 14580165 Eric from BBI said:
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New York Giants
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Coach Shurmur: Cody Latimer has a concussion. Sterling Shepard is improving from his concussion.


If the NFL was serious about player safety, they would allow a coaches challenge on helmet to helmet. That was a serious hit/non-call.
Going to happen  
Thegratefulhead : 9/16/2019 12:29 pm : link
For all the reason I listed all week, if we lost in Buffalo, Jones should start.

It sucks to be ownership and GM right now.

One thing can change that entirely and flip it on its heels.

Daniel Jones wins in Tampa.

All of a sudden everything is pointing up.

It is happening, they just haven't told Eli yet.
RE: RE: I would not make the switch  
aka dbrny : 9/16/2019 12:29 pm : link
In comment 14580185 PEEJ said:
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In comment 14580177 cactus said:


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until Shepard and Tate are playing. There's very little separation there for Eli to take advantage of, it's not going to be any different for Jones. Do they really want to put him into a situation like he was in at Duke???


On the flip-side, Jones is familiar with the 2nd string WRS.


That's so funny its sad
RE: RE: I think Eli starts  
ron mexico : 9/16/2019 12:30 pm : link
In comment 14580191 figgy2989 said:
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In comment 14580178 Matt in SGS said:


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and if the Giants struggle after the 1Q or first half, Eli's getting the hook. That's what I'm reading here.



See, I don't agree with this. If they want Jones to be the starter, he needs to get his reps in with the first team during the week. By doing what you said, you are just setting him up for failure.


I agree 100%

either way he needs to start taking some of Eli's practice reps
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/16/2019 12:30 pm : link
Paul Schwartz
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Pat Shurmur said he does not want to be dishonest. He simply is not ready to say Eli Manning starts the next game.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/16/2019 12:31 pm : link
GiantsWFAN
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#Shumur - DSlayton will practice this week...he is closer
RE: I think Eli starts  
cjac : 9/16/2019 12:31 pm : link
In comment 14580178 Matt in SGS said:
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and if the Giants struggle after the 1Q or first half, Eli's getting the hook. That's what I'm reading here.


I think thats a terrible idea, just start him
Mara & DG putting out feelers immediately  
Canton : 9/16/2019 12:31 pm : link
to see how the media and fans react to Shurnur's statement. If it's less volatile than McAdoo's, I feel it's all systems go with Daniel Jones, this week or the next.
Wait another game or so  
Elisha10 : 9/16/2019 12:32 pm : link
Eli is right behind Big Ben in all time yards and TD passes, yes I care!
RE: Wait another game or so  
jvm52106 : 9/16/2019 12:35 pm : link
In comment 14580217 Elisha10 said:
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Eli is right behind Big Ben in all time yards and TD passes, yes I care!


Get off the site Archie... Your sons have multiple SB victories and MVP;s, it is time.,..
RE: I would not make the switch  
prdave73 : 9/16/2019 12:35 pm : link
In comment 14580177 cactus said:
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until Shepard and Tate are playing. There's very little separation there for Eli to take advantage of, it's not going to be any different for Jones. Do they really want to put him into a situation like he was in at Duke???


Agree 100%. You don’t want to put that much pressure on a rookie. Without any help, it can just hurt him more. Last thing we need is for all the Giants rookies to suck ass..
Starting DJ is the right move  
LG in NYC : 9/16/2019 12:35 pm : link
Funny, McAdoo gets vilified here and (mostly) for good reason... but he saw the writing on the wall with Eli long before most others were willing to accept it.

He handled it horribly and didn't have a #6 draft pick on the bench to transition to... but in the end, he was right about the need for a change at QB.
If Drew Brees  
Joey in VA : 9/16/2019 12:35 pm : link
Is out for an extended period of time I call the Saints. Eli can play on that offense.
RE: If Drew Brees  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/16/2019 12:37 pm : link
In comment 14580232 Joey in VA said:
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Is out for an extended period of time I call the Saints. Eli can play on that offense.


Joey, there are a number of places now where Eli could end up. He had better understand his position here.
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Br00klyn : 9/16/2019 12:38 pm : link
In comment 14580232 Joey in VA said:
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Is out for an extended period of time I call the Saints. Eli can play on that offense.


He is not better than many QB's in the league at this point, Teddy B included
Guys, Guys, Hold On - Mara needs to hear what Francesser says  
V.I.G. : 9/16/2019 12:38 pm : link
before Mara signs off.
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Danny Kanell : 9/16/2019 12:39 pm : link
In comment 14580207 Eric from BBI said:
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Paul Schwartz
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Pat Shurmur said he does not want to be dishonest. He simply is not ready to say Eli Manning starts the next game.


This is the most telling. I think it's happening this week and it should.
RE: If Drew Brees  
V.I.G. : 9/16/2019 12:40 pm : link
In comment 14580232 Joey in VA said:
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Is out for an extended period of time I call the Saints. Eli can play on that offense.

what makes you think the Saints want Eli?
I think they should make the move  
Section331 : 9/16/2019 12:41 pm : link
sooner rather than later, but I wouldn’t do it on the road at TB. Let him start the following week at home v WASH.
Nobody is trading for Eli.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/16/2019 12:41 pm : link
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In a strange  
Jon in NYC : 9/16/2019 12:42 pm : link
twist of fate, Eli replaces Big Ben in Pittsburgh.
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Jon in NYC : 9/16/2019 12:43 pm : link
In comment 14580208 Eric from BBI said:
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GiantsWFAN
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#Shumur - DSlayton will practice this week...he is closer


I'm excited about Slayton. He has produced all spring/summer when healthy
RE: RE: If Drew Brees  
Big Rick in FL : 9/16/2019 12:43 pm : link
In comment 14580241 Br00klyn said:
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In comment 14580232 Joey in VA said:


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Is out for an extended period of time I call the Saints. Eli can play on that offense.



He is not better than many QB's in the league at this point, Teddy B included


I don't think Eli is good at all. He's better than Bridgewater.

Bridgewater plays with some of the best weapons in the game and a very good OL. Here are his numbers in 2 games with the Saints.

He's completing 58% of his passes for 283 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT and 1 fumble lost.
Shurmur could also just be toying with Tampa  
Jimmy Meatballs : 9/16/2019 12:44 pm : link
so they have to game plan for 2 QB’s
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V.I.G. : 9/16/2019 12:45 pm : link
In comment 14580256 Big Rick in FL said:
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He's completing 58% of his passes for 283 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT and 1 fumble lost.

kind of late 30s eli numbers, no?
RE: In a strange  
nygiants16 : 9/16/2019 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14580253 Jon in NYC said:
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twist of fate, Eli replaces Big Ben in Pittsburgh.


they are rolling with rudolph he had a good preseason and he is their heir apparent
RE: Nobody is trading for Eli.  
Nine-Tails : 9/16/2019 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14580252 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Agree, no team with playoff dreams and an injured starter are looking at Eli and be like he could keep us in the hunt. First there was the colts, they locked up Brissett, then the jags and Minshew is playing great for sixth rd pick. The Steelers have Rudolph and the saints have teddy
RE: If Drew Brees  
Dave : 9/16/2019 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14580232 Joey in VA said:
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Is out for an extended period of time I call the Saints. Eli can play on that offense.


THIS!
Nobody  
AcidTest : 9/16/2019 12:46 pm : link
is trading for Eli, even if he was willing to waive his no trade clause. He can't move, and nobody wants his contract.

Shurmur knows that the only way he can justify a disastrous season is to put Jones in and say that any mistakes are the function of him being a rookie. I also think Shurmur is understandably frustrated that Eli can't run his offense, which needs a mobile QB. How much of his playbook can't be used because Eli is completely immobile?
Unless DJ  
HoustonGiant : 9/16/2019 12:47 pm : link
has a killer swim move and can get to the QB, it doesn't matter.
RE: Wait another game or so  
myquealer : 9/16/2019 12:47 pm : link
In comment 14580217 Elisha10 said:
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Eli is right behind Big Ben in all time yards and TD passes, yes I care!


Wow, only one TD and 8 yards behind, and with Ben out for the season, he might be done.
Here  
AcidTest : 9/16/2019 12:48 pm : link
is what I think may happen:

Eli starts the game, but Jones replaces him if Eli falters and the Giants get down by 14 points. If that doesn't happen, then Jones starts against the Redskins.
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