From this morning's Shurmur conference call:
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Shurmur said Eli’s been the starter to this point. He wouldn’t commit to anything beyond that. Said they’re looking at everything going forward.
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That would seem to be a big red flare in the sky to me.
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Coach Shurmur: Cody Latimer has a concussion. Sterling Shepard is improving from his concussion.
If the NFL was serious about player safety, they would allow a coaches challenge on helmet to helmet. That was a serious hit/non-call.
Excellent point. You basically nailed their hypocrisy
With Tampa, they have to game plan for 4 QBs. They never know which version of Winston they will get.
Eli starts the game, but Jones replaces him if Eli falters and the Giants get down by 14 points. If that doesn't happen, then Jones starts against the Redskins.
I just dont see the point, let the kid know hes starting and give him the week to prepare. Try to set him up with the best chance to succeed
Jones could be Joe Montana and it won't matter with these people running the team. Eli is shot and needs to be replaced immediately, but we shouldn't lose sight that his continued pathetic presence is a symptom of a much larger and deeper problem.
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so they have to game plan for 2 QB’s
With Tampa, they have to game plan for 4 QBs. They never know which version of Winston they will get.
Wow this was a great post.
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He's completing 58% of his passes for 283 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT and 1 fumble lost.
kind of late 30s eli numbers, no?
Sadly even Eli's numbers have been better
Jones could be Joe Montana and it won't matter with these people running the team. Eli is shot and needs to be replaced immediately, but we shouldn't lose sight that his continued pathetic presence is a symptom of a much larger and deeper problem.
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so they have to game plan for 2 QB’s
With Tampa, they have to game plan for 4 QBs. They never know which version of Winston they will get.
I think it comes down to if they can force turnovers. It’s given that Winston will move the ball. If we can’t get turnovers, he’ll light it up against us
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Eli Manning is handling questions about his shaken job security like a pro but finally said ‘let’s stay away from the ifs...’ #giants
Jones could be Joe Montana and it won't matter with these people running the team. Eli is shot and needs to be replaced immediately, but we shouldn't lose sight that his continued pathetic presence is a symptom of a much larger and deeper problem.
That makes little sense. If jones is the goods doesn’t that show that DG did his job and shurmur can run an offense with another QB? If anything it shows that Mara didn’t do his by interfering.
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Eli Manning: We have a stud running back in Saquon, so we know teams are going to try to stop the run...we have to throw the ball better than we have been, especially on third downs.
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Eli said nothing changes for him. He’s getting ready to play this week.
While I believe that Jones should start, this is once again the wrong way to handle the situation. Make the decision, tell the players 1st, then tell the media.
This franchise is a joke from ownership down to the coach
as sad as it makes me to say it, ben has shown himself to be the better quarterback and a few more one-TD performances from eli won't change that. ben has more yards and TD passes than eli and he's done it in about 16 fewer games played.
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Eli said hos conversations with Shurmur since yesterday have been no different. He said it’s not important to get clarity on his situation.
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Eli Manning is handling questions about his shaken job security like a pro but finally said ‘let’s stay away from the ifs...’ #giants
Sadly when you have a great player at the end of his career it ends like this more times than not.
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Eli after a few questions about the possibility of a change at quarterback:
“Let’s stay away from the ifs.”
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Eli said nothing changes for him. He’s getting ready to play this week.
Why change a thing if you're Eli making a cool 1.5M weekly (in season)???
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Eli Manning just finished his media session/inquisition. Said he’s preparing to play as usual. Hasn’t heard anything from Shurmur to suggest otherwise.
Sounded weary of the subject of his job security that his head coach decided to make public today.
Excellent point, and one that isn't often noted. Jones has the best chance to succeed while we are still relatively healthy, and the weather is still good.
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Eli Manning says at this pt “nothing changes.” He says there haven’t been any conversations w/coaches + management about starting status. Says Giants “0-2 and looking for answers. I get it. When you draft a guy early and you’re not winning games, these were going to come up.”
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Tough day for the 2004 quarterback class.
You don't think the move away from a QB who has been starting for this team since 2004 is a big deal?
HAHAHAAHA, can you imagine?
eli would be answering these type of questions whether shurmur said something or didnt say something
Shurmur is just really dreadful when dealing with the media.
Quite possibly. As I said, most of Shurmur's offense is predicated on having a mobile QB, which as we saw yesterday with Allen, is an enormous advantage in today's NFL.
I am hoping that the reason they kept Alex Tanney on the roster was in case they started off poorly and made the switch to Jones. Releasing Eli would allow him to try to find a starting job elsewhere while the Giants open up a lot of cap room to carry over into next year.
Shurmur is just really dreadful when dealing with the media.
what if shurmur is ready to make a change and is being met with resistance?
While I believe that Jones should start, this is once again the wrong way to handle the situation. Make the decision, tell the players 1st, then tell the media.
This franchise is a joke from ownership down to the coach
Maybe that is the point. It seems like pressure is coming from all sides on this issue, coaches, fans, media. You know John Mara doesn't want to do it after two weeks, but he really needs to listen to what literally everyone else is saying.
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Why anybody gives a shit. We're going nowhere with our coaching staff.
You don't think the move away from a QB who has been starting for this team since 2004 is a big deal?
In and of itself it is but to what end? Will it make us a contender in the next 2 seasons? No, and that has nothing to do with Daniel Jones and everything to do with an inept coaching staff (again) that will not be replaced soon enough. Not to mention the likelihood of getting a good replacement.
Eli actually has value as a seasoned vet back up on this team. More value than he has as a starter.
Based on his play from Duke, he is not great at protecting himself. There is no reason to ship Eli off if we are paying him anyway, he might be needed later in the season.
Jones could be Joe Montana and it won't matter with these people running the team. Eli is shot and needs to be replaced immediately, but we shouldn't lose sight that his continued pathetic presence is a symptom of a much larger and deeper problem.
Agreed, if Jones turns out to be the player he was in preseason, it's going to mask a lot of organizational deficiencies and may save a lot of jobs and continue with the status quo.
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Why anybody gives a shit. We're going nowhere with our coaching staff.
You don't think the move away from a QB who has been starting for this team since 2004 is a big deal?
In and of itself it is but to what end? Will it make us a contender in the next 2 seasons? No, and that has nothing to do with Daniel Jones and everything to do with an inept coaching staff (again) that will not be replaced soon enough. Not to mention the likelihood of getting a good replacement.
funny people said the same thing after eli's first year
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Eli is right behind Big Ben in all time yards and TD passes, yes I care!
Get off the site Archie... Your sons have multiple SB victories and MVP;s, it is time.,..
The Bucs defense looked great on Thursday in Carolina.