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A lot of glee at the prospect of benching #10

exiled : 9/16/2019 4:35 pm
Since I live in Boston, I depend on BBI for Giants news and analysis. And I get the excitement of transitioning to the teamís first-round rookie QB. But man, the contempt for Eli coming from some posters is off the charts.

Me? It breaks my (football) heart. I have nothing but gratitude for Eli Manning. I hate watching this play out.
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Dave in Hoboken : 9/16/2019 5:29 pm : link
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Woof.



Like I said, low class



Cry for me.



You do more than enough of that, and quite well, on your own


'It's glee, it's crying, it's glee, it'crying.'

God, you guys can't even make up your minds.

And heaven forbid some Giants fans aren't happy with the performance of the team over the past now 7+ years. Guess we should all be happy with the downright embarrassing record this team has over the past 7 years, and the winning of a combined 8 games over the pat 2+ seasons.

Like I said, earlier. Some of us care more about the team than a single player. I'll never feel bad about that, and neither will anyone else who feels the same. Deal with that and accept it.
RE: RE: Like most opinions nowadays  
DonQuixote : 9/16/2019 5:32 pm : link
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people tend to dig their heels in. It's amazing to me how a line has been drawn in the sand here, for the most valuable player in our franchises history.

I love Eli and still think he can play, but once Jones was drafted you would have to be clueless to think this would work. It's time to move on, and not ripping the band aid off during the off-season has created this Chinese water torture during the regular season.



Itís because no one, not Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur, the fanbase, no one, is certain of what Daniel Jones is. ...


Let's find out.
RE: Not Glee from me, appreciate  
mrvax : 9/16/2019 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14581070 Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) said:
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But the last 7 years have been painful to watch . They just arenít fun to watch anymore other than to see what Barkley is going to do...


2012-2018 (7 years)gave Eli the worst Oline to work with. Useless Oline. But now that the Oline is almost average, Eli has slowed down noticeably.
I just want to insert the reality that Eli was not good on Sunday.  
DonQuixote : 9/16/2019 5:36 pm : link
He was outplayed by Josh Allen and Dak Prescott the week before.

Heaven forbid some of us have the temerity to wonder if he might be outplayed by Daniel Jones.

I honestly don't get the hangers on for Eli Manning...great career but it's over.

I root for the Giants over Eli Manning every day of the week.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I think we found jtgiant's dupe account.  
BBelle21 : 9/16/2019 5:38 pm : link
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Woof.



Like I said, low class



Cry for me.



You do more than enough of that, and quite well, on your own



'It's glee, it's crying, it's glee, it'crying.'

God, you guys can't even make up your minds.

And heaven forbid some Giants fans aren't happy with the performance of the team over the past now 7+ years. Guess we should all be happy with the downright embarrassing record this team has over the past 7 years, and the winning of a combined 8 games over the pat 2+ seasons.

Like I said, earlier. Some of us care more about the team than a single player. I'll never feel bad about that, and neither will anyone else who feels the same. Deal with that and accept it.


You singled me out, again, for having a different opinion than yours. You are one of most insecure posters around here. There are many fans who want Eli to go and they talk about it. They donít single posters out like you do, repeatedly. If what I write bothers you so much, ignore it. You notice, I never address you unless you start your nonsense like calling me by a different posters name.

But I will give you credit for something. You are, at least, rooting for a Giants QB. Finally. For long? Will be fun to see.
It's sad but it's the way many of them end. And sadly this is probably  
Blue21 : 9/16/2019 5:39 pm : link
how it will play out here.
He should have been waived or traded in the spring  
Batenhorst : 9/16/2019 5:40 pm : link
His decline is not a sudden occurrence

Its been obvious for quite some time

We could have spent that 20 million or so dollars on a few pass rushers or DBs

The end for any long time QB is never pretty if they hang around too long

Joe Namath, Phil Simms, Joe Montana . its a long list
Lots of losing football  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/16/2019 5:41 pm : link
has led to lots of frustration. Some will say I told you so, some will say he still has it. In time, way more positives will be remembered.

I think he has something left but it would have to be with a very above average line and defense. That is not happening this year. So best to move on.

I definitely disagree with those who said he has been finished for a few years. Eli's skillet needs certain things. Unfortunately the team was unable to support it however hard they thought they tried.
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Dave in Hoboken : 9/16/2019 5:43 pm : link
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Woof.



Like I said, low class



Cry for me.



You do more than enough of that, and quite well, on your own



'It's glee, it's crying, it's glee, it'crying.'

God, you guys can't even make up your minds.

And heaven forbid some Giants fans aren't happy with the performance of the team over the past now 7+ years. Guess we should all be happy with the downright embarrassing record this team has over the past 7 years, and the winning of a combined 8 games over the pat 2+ seasons.

Like I said, earlier. Some of us care more about the team than a single player. I'll never feel bad about that, and neither will anyone else who feels the same. Deal with that and accept it.



You singled me out, again, for having a different opinion than yours. You are one of most insecure posters around here. There are many fans who want Eli to go and they talk about it. They donít single posters out like you do, repeatedly. If what I write bothers you so much, ignore it. You notice, I never address you unless you start your nonsense like calling me by a different posters name.

But I will give you credit for something. You are, at least, rooting for a Giants QB. Finally. For long? Will be fun to see.


And I'll continue to address your posts as I see fit. Post ridiculous, temper-tantrum babyish shit like "Eli deserves to play with Tate and Shepard" and I'll tell you how idiotic that is.

And your last paragraph is the problem with you, and some others. You can be a fan of a player and still be honest enough to place partial blame on a player for 7 straight years of failure.

And when Eli is gone we'll see how long you remain a Giants fan, if at all. That's the real interesting thing to see.
RE: Like most opinions nowadays  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/16/2019 5:44 pm : link
In comment 14580997 aimrocky said:
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people tend to dig their heels in. It's amazing to me how a line has been drawn in the sand here, for the most valuable player in our franchises history.

I love Eli and still think he can play, but once Jones was drafted you would have to be clueless to think this would work. It's time to move on, and not ripping the band aid off during the off-season has created this Chinese water torture during the regular season.


To be fair, there IS a way this could have worked: Eli stops this from being a conversation by playing great football. Nobody would be calling for Jones of the offense was working. Or competitive. But when you have 0 passing yards through almost half of a football game, people start to ask questions. Or they should start to ask questions
RE: Maninning deserves the chance to be out there Sunday.  
ajr2456 : 9/16/2019 5:45 pm : link
In comment 14580990 Since1965 said:
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It's still early in the season, geeze just two games. If things aren't going well, can always put Jones in for the second half or fourth quarter or whatever. In times gone by, if a starting QB was going badly, he'd get pulled and the backup was given a change to see if he could improve things. Kind of like a relief pitcher coming in. I don't see that this needs to be an all or nothing proposition.


Two games? This offense hasnít scored in 4 years and thereís one constant.
...  
christian : 9/16/2019 5:46 pm : link
The extent to which "respect" towards a player from fans on a message board means to some is quite weird.

Eli Manning, and as far as I know, Eli Manning's mother do not post on BBI. Eli Manning doesn't know fans on BBI have said some less than nice things about him, and that they don't want him to start games anymore.

I can't think of a single BBIer who wants Manning to sit because they don't like him. BBIers want him to sit because he's not very good, the team is not very good, and neither of those things seem to be getting better.

It's not glee, it's not disrespect. It's not personal. We don't know him, he doesn't know us.

Fans want the Giants to fast forward getting better at football, no matter what.
OP here  
exiled : 9/16/2019 5:49 pm : link
Itís not that I donít support DJ taking over. I trust the professionals making these decisions. (I do, actually, even our head coach.) I just see no need to tar and feather Eli on his way out. These years of epic run of disastrous football have been a team failure.
*epic run of disastrous football  
exiled : 9/16/2019 5:52 pm : link
has been a team failure
RE: OP here  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/16/2019 5:53 pm : link
In comment 14581095 exiled said:
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Itís not that I donít support DJ taking over. I trust the professionals making these decisions. (I do, actually, even our head coach.) I just see no need to tar and feather Eli on his way out. These years of epic run of disastrous football have been a team failure.


And everyone's response to you is where is the 'tar and feathering?' Provide examples.
I'm really tired of the losing, BUT  
Red Dog : 9/16/2019 5:54 pm : link
benching Eli won't change a thing.

This team is still paying the price for Mara hanging on to Reese & Ross way too long, and for firing Major Tom and
hiring McAdoo.

DG has a good start on revitalizing the roster, but there still isn't enough talent and the current coaches are pretty questionable, too. Frankly I've seen better expansion teams that the GIANTS have fielded in recent years. And the teams from the 15 years of lousy football were more fun to watch, too.
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BBelle21 : 9/16/2019 5:54 pm : link
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Woof.



Like I said, low class



Cry for me.



You do more than enough of that, and quite well, on your own



'It's glee, it's crying, it's glee, it'crying.'

God, you guys can't even make up your minds.

And heaven forbid some Giants fans aren't happy with the performance of the team over the past now 7+ years. Guess we should all be happy with the downright embarrassing record this team has over the past 7 years, and the winning of a combined 8 games over the pat 2+ seasons.

Like I said, earlier. Some of us care more about the team than a single player. I'll never feel bad about that, and neither will anyone else who feels the same. Deal with that and accept it.



You singled me out, again, for having a different opinion than yours. You are one of most insecure posters around here. There are many fans who want Eli to go and they talk about it. They donít single posters out like you do, repeatedly. If what I write bothers you so much, ignore it. You notice, I never address you unless you start your nonsense like calling me by a different posters name.

But I will give you credit for something. You are, at least, rooting for a Giants QB. Finally. For long? Will be fun to see.



And I'll continue to address your posts as I see fit. Post ridiculous, temper-tantrum babyish shit like "Eli deserves to play with Tate and Shepard" and I'll tell you how idiotic that is.

And your last paragraph is the problem with you, and some others. You can be a fan of a player and still be honest enough to place partial blame on a player for 7 straight years of failure.

And when Eli is gone we'll see how long you remain a Giants fan, if at all. That's the real interesting thing to see.


Youíre having a conversation with yourself now. As usual. ďTemper tantrum babyish shitĒ Hereís a little advice. Stop projecting your own emotional garbage onto other posters. It makes you look foolish.
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Dave in Hoboken : 9/16/2019 5:55 pm : link
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Woof.



Like I said, low class



Cry for me.



You do more than enough of that, and quite well, on your own



'It's glee, it's crying, it's glee, it'crying.'

God, you guys can't even make up your minds.

And heaven forbid some Giants fans aren't happy with the performance of the team over the past now 7+ years. Guess we should all be happy with the downright embarrassing record this team has over the past 7 years, and the winning of a combined 8 games over the pat 2+ seasons.

Like I said, earlier. Some of us care more about the team than a single player. I'll never feel bad about that, and neither will anyone else who feels the same. Deal with that and accept it.



You singled me out, again, for having a different opinion than yours. You are one of most insecure posters around here. There are many fans who want Eli to go and they talk about it. They donít single posters out like you do, repeatedly. If what I write bothers you so much, ignore it. You notice, I never address you unless you start your nonsense like calling me by a different posters name.

But I will give you credit for something. You are, at least, rooting for a Giants QB. Finally. For long? Will be fun to see.



And I'll continue to address your posts as I see fit. Post ridiculous, temper-tantrum babyish shit like "Eli deserves to play with Tate and Shepard" and I'll tell you how idiotic that is.

And your last paragraph is the problem with you, and some others. You can be a fan of a player and still be honest enough to place partial blame on a player for 7 straight years of failure.

And when Eli is gone we'll see how long you remain a Giants fan, if at all. That's the real interesting thing to see.



Youíre having a conversation with yourself now. As usual. ďTemper tantrum babyish shitĒ Hereís a little advice. Stop projecting your own emotional garbage onto other posters. It makes you look foolish.


You should've just said, "I concede." Got it.
I don;'t think anyone is feeling glee  
DavidinBMNY : 9/16/2019 5:55 pm : link
It means we are losing and we suck. People are just ready for a change. Manning lost last year, he has been losing consistently. Regardless of anything else people are ready to lose with a new QB.
All offseason we heard how he lost weight and  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 9/16/2019 5:56 pm : link
Worked with a pitching coach.

Honestly I see no difference, heís making or not making the same throws as in the past. Footwork is heavy and heís often flat .

His coaching has been terrible as well the last 3 plus years .
Giants fans were booing Eli after second half yesterday  
Danny Dimes : 9/16/2019 5:59 pm : link
And yall were just booing me last month, glad the pendulum switched. Eli and I didn't think that was possible
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BBelle21 : 9/16/2019 6:06 pm : link
You should've just said, "I concede." Got it. [/quote]

Projecting yet again. Fascinating. Youíre denser than the deer crap my dog ate this weekend
RE: I'm really tired of the losing, BUT  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/16/2019 6:07 pm : link
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benching Eli won't change a thing.


Well, at least we'd be able to complete a pass to saquon in the flat.
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Dave in Hoboken : 9/16/2019 6:08 pm : link
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You should've just said, "I concede." Got it.


Projecting yet again. Fascinating. Youíre denser than the deer crap my dog ate this weekend [/quote]

'denser.'

Dear Lord, the irony.
I feel no glee at the end of Manning's career  
markky : 9/16/2019 6:15 pm : link
but we suck and we've sucked for YEARS. I'm excited to see what Jones has. He might be great or he could be Kent Graham, but we won't find out with him on the sideline. the more we know before next Spring the better.

Eli could have gone out on his own terms. he chose not to. there is absolutely zero reason to concern ourselves with his feelings. we should pay tribute but it has no affect on how I feel about making a change.

and if we had drafted Kyler Murray would he be playing? of course he would be. so why not DJ?
...  
christian : 9/16/2019 6:22 pm : link
So just to recap, there's no glee, right?
No glee  
Les in TO : 9/16/2019 6:36 pm : link
No grave pissing or tap dancing

You want to hear a sad story? I got plenty of them.  
GiantsUA : 9/16/2019 6:46 pm : link
The Eli Manning story is not one of them.
It makes many of us sad....  
Kanavis : 9/16/2019 7:08 pm : link
Seeing him loose with this crap talent. I don't want him to finish less than .500 for his career. I defended him constantly over the past few years. And yes, the team really ruined the end of his career with terrible decisions.

However, he is probably a HOF QB who won two Super Bowls. He got to play a lot of his career with a HOF coach and some great players around him. He has fared better than Rivers (but not BR) in terms of his situation. He has made more money than any player in franchise history and perhaps, the NFL. It's sad that it has come to this. But while he has been QB we have all had some serious, real tragedies in our lives. This isn't one of them.

He is no longer athletic enough to run the team and keep the defense off balance. I watched other games yesterday. EVERY QB has to move in the pocket. Every one....the 'running QBs' and the 'pocket passers.' It's not just the QB who runs for first downs. Even Ryan had to run around a lot yesterday. Eli can't move in the pocket anymore. They should not have brought him back. But even if they did, at this time, with this team, in this situation...it is time!
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MM_in_NYC : 9/16/2019 7:27 pm : link
In comment 14581093 christian said:
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The extent to which "respect" towards a player from fans on a message board means to some is quite weird.

Eli Manning, and as far as I know, Eli Manning's mother do not post on BBI. Eli Manning doesn't know fans on BBI have said some less than nice things about him, and that they don't want him to start games anymore.

I can't think of a single BBIer who wants Manning to sit because they don't like him. BBIers want him to sit because he's not very good, the team is not very good, and neither of those things seem to be getting better.

It's not glee, it's not disrespect. It's not personal. We don't know him, he doesn't know us.

Fans want the Giants to fast forward getting better at football, no matter what.


Well said, Christian. I like a lot of what you post.
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NoGainDayne : 9/16/2019 7:28 pm : link
In comment 14581157 christian said:
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So just to recap, there's no glee, right?


I don't think this thread has even uncovered an individual instance of glee
I love Eli...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/16/2019 7:31 pm : link
But it's time.
My wife and I shed  
pjcas18 : 9/16/2019 7:32 pm : link
a tear thinking about this and discussing it tonight at the dinner table.
RE: Trolls who watch too much espn  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/16/2019 7:36 pm : link
In comment 14580916 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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heck trolls on this site were rooting for the Eagles to win a SB ffs.

You weren't on this board when the Eagles were in the Super Bowl.
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joeinpa : 9/16/2019 8:12 pm : link
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Just moving forward. Do you remember when a Gmen moved forward with Jeff Hostetler over Simms? Well, Eli will be 39 in January and we have nothing to gain playing him. He had two games and looked mediocre to poor, so why not let the kid get his feet wet? Surely our braintrust now realizes we canít make the playoffs with this defense. Hopefully, they get better each week though.



This never happened. Hostetler filled in for an injured Simms and won the Super Bowl. Perhaps you are referring to Scott Brunner?


And Hostetler was named the starting quarterback for the next season
"My wife and I shed a tear"  
Jim in NH : 9/16/2019 8:14 pm : link
Another National Feelings League fan heard from.
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Les in TO : 9/16/2019 9:01 pm : link
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heck trolls on this site were rooting for the Eagles to win a SB ffs.


You weren't on this board when the Eagles were in the Super Bowl.
lol it was his predecessor
RE: My wife and I shed  
Dutch77 : 9/16/2019 11:04 pm : link
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a tear thinking about this and discussing it tonight at the dinner table.

I hope youíre joking.
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Dutch77 : 9/16/2019 11:08 pm : link
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But the last 7 years have been painful to watch . They just arenít fun to watch anymore other than to see what Barkley is going to do...



2012-2018 (7 years)gave Eli the worst Oline to work with. Useless Oline. But now that the Oline is almost average, Eli has slowed down noticeably.

More excuses.
No glee.  
Matt M. : 9/16/2019 11:09 pm : link
Not happy at all. Add it my dejection that my 10 year old is heartbroken that Eli will be done at any minute. He is the only QB he's known and my boy loves him. He got over OBJ leaving, but he is devastated about the inevitable.
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christian : 9/16/2019 11:15 pm : link
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So just to recap, there's no glee, right?



I don't think this thread has even uncovered an individual instance of glee


I'm quite bummed for Manning. He seems like a good dude. I've enjoyed rooting for him.

There is nothing approaching glee to be felt in any of this.
The worst part is if they just cut his ass we wouldn't have to watch  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/16/2019 11:19 pm : link
what is going to be 100 camera shots a game when he is on the sideline on offense.
RE: Agree  
Junior22 : 9/16/2019 11:20 pm : link
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Itís crass and low class. Even surprising on some level. I understand the frustration with losing and itís clearly Eliís turn on the plank as far as some fans are concerned, but itís still disturbing to watch. Gettleman could have gone for a pass rusher, but he went for Daniel Jones in Eliís final year. I think Eli should be given his weapons back before getting blamed for the inept defense. I donít think itís fair for Jones to come in and have Golden Tate and Sterling to throw to.


Eli has had 7 years of excuses
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Matt M. : 9/16/2019 11:22 pm : link
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But the last 7 years have been painful to watch . They just arenít fun to watch anymore other than to see what Barkley is going to do...



2012-2018 (7 years)gave Eli the worst Oline to work with. Useless Oline. But now that the Oline is almost average, Eli has slowed down noticeably.


More excuses.
Just to be clear, the last 7 years can't be all painful, especially when talking about Eli. For example, he had two of his best years statistically in McAdoo's offense in '14 and '15 and '16 wasn't pretty good with a playoff berth to boot.
Golden Tate isn't good enough for this kind of take.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/16/2019 11:23 pm : link
We're not in this hole because Golden Tate isn't out there.
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NoGainDayne : 9/16/2019 11:54 pm : link
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So just to recap, there's no glee, right?



I don't think this thread has even uncovered an individual instance of glee



I'm quite bummed for Manning. He seems like a good dude. I've enjoyed rooting for him.

There is nothing approaching glee to be felt in any of this.



I'm with you. Hard to put my finger on exactly what about the team has made me not go to any of the games I've had tickets to since the Saints last year but watching him play like this and on this team is certainly up there. (I've gone to many seasons where they are out of contention until the end) Don't think he goes to the HoF now, if hangs it up earlier or gets to a better situation than this I think he had a good shot. That's sad for someone who put us on his back for those titles including an amazing performance against the best team I've ever seen. For me nothing comes close to that game as a sports memory even being 2nd row for the 41-0 NFC championship game.

I spent a lot of time even before his first SB win defending him because I totally respect the way he carries himself and goes about his job and he was often a target of being underestimated and ridiculed for his demeanor. Seems to be exactly the guy he was when he came into the league (easier coming from where he did) but never got a big ego.

You could put it on him to say maybe he should have retired but he's a competitor, not in his DNA. I honestly think some of the i'll play for another team stuff was to pressure the Giants and fuck with them. Certainly nice if the team aids in helping to guide you out to pasture in a favorable way to your legacy. And who knows if that Geno Smith thing wasn't bungled so hard if he would have been responsive to, hey, we will give you this season and next but if we don't get winning by then you hang it up happily as a Giant? Maybe even at the end of that season. But no, they embarrassed an incredibly competitive guy and we will never know how it could have gone if this team could honestly self assess and form a cohesive plan better.
Time to move on  
DeepBlueJint : 9/17/2019 5:05 am : link
$20+ Million reasons why I do not care. I believe most Giant fans are truly appreciative of what Eli did to carry the team to the two Super Bowl victories. They were average teams with a few good leaders. He deserved the MVP for getting them there as well as his play in those 2 games.

Nevertheless, after 7 years of team hell and lots of money besides, it is time to move on.

I wish him well, but please move on Eli.
RE: Agree  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/17/2019 6:35 am : link
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Itís crass and low class. Even surprising on some level. I understand the frustration with losing and itís clearly Eliís turn on the plank as far as some fans are concerned, but itís still disturbing to watch. Gettleman could have gone for a pass rusher, but he went for Daniel Jones in Eliís final year. I think Eli should be given his weapons back before getting blamed for the inept defense. I donít think itís fair for Jones to come in and have Golden Tate and Sterling to throw to.

I know this is difficult for many people to understand, but this is not about blaming Eli.

It's about acknowledging that this team isn't good enough to win this year, and won't be good enough again until after Eli's contract (and likely his career, ultimately) is over. Meanwhile, Jones is waiting in the wings as the #6 overall pick in the draft. If and when the Giants are competitive again, it will most likely be with Jones at QB.

It's just time.
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Gatorade Dunk : 9/17/2019 6:42 am : link
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people tend to dig their heels in. It's amazing to me how a line has been drawn in the sand here, for the most valuable player in our franchises history.

I love Eli and still think he can play, but once Jones was drafted you would have to be clueless to think this would work. It's time to move on, and not ripping the band aid off during the off-season has created this Chinese water torture during the regular season.



Itís because no one, not Gettleman, Mara, Shurmur, the fanbase, no one, is certain of what Daniel Jones is. Eli remains here as security and he brings his wisdom; and for the fans to show this level of disdain for him is baffling and more than a little nauseating

The fact that you're reading it as disdain, while not especially surprising for you, is the problem.
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christian : 9/17/2019 7:34 am : link
I've posted this many, many times over the last years -- I've wanted the Giants to move on after 2017 -- and I will never forgive Mara for using Manning as a stopgap and getting him beat physically in the lame attempt to capture a happy ending.
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