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gmenrule : 9/16/2019 4:37 pm
With all the QBs getting hurt (Foles, Brees, Big Ben, etc), and gone for extended periods of time, might it be time for the Giants to try and get something of value for an Eli trade ? Assuming of course that Danny Dimes gets to start, looks good, and really seems to be the QB of the future.
What is the highest pick you think we could get for Eli ?
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Heisenberg : 9/16/2019 4:38 pm : link
I don't think you're getting much in return for Eli  
jcn56 : 9/16/2019 4:38 pm : link
not a knock on him, but he's got a big price tag attached to him. That limits his market somewhat. A NTC limits it further. Then you have offenses that are predicated on a QB having a certain amount of mobility.

If we were to get anything in return for him, it would be a token gesture.
Eli has a no trade clause  
Ira : 9/16/2019 4:39 pm : link
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2cents : 9/16/2019 4:39 pm : link
id be shocked if we could even get anyone to pick up the phone.
RE: Eli has a no trade clause  
jvm52106 : 9/16/2019 4:42 pm : link
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That doesn't mean SHIT if he agrees... If he has a shot at a SB- say a contender loses their QB for the year, you think he wouldn't consider it???
The Giants Would  
lax counsel : 9/16/2019 4:42 pm : link
Get a call if there was a team with elite skill position players and a top oline that was close and lost their qb for the entire season, without any viable replacement. I don't think this description fits any current team with qb injuries.
The team that makes the most sense IMO is New Orleans  
Jay on the Island : 9/16/2019 4:44 pm : link
Not in a trade but if the Giants were to release Eli he could go to the Saints where he would have a great supporting cast. Their offense is built for a pocket passer anyway.
They'd have to have or be able to create enough  
Heisenberg : 9/16/2019 4:45 pm : link
cap room to absorb his 23M cap number. What contender is gonna be able to do that and remain a contender?
2 things hold back an Eli trade  
Br00klyn : 9/16/2019 4:46 pm : link
1. No trade clause
2. No trade value
So you think a team would trade for a aged qb who does not know their  
SterlingArcher : 9/16/2019 4:51 pm : link
system during the season? hmmm, interesting
RE: They'd have to have or be able to create enough  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/16/2019 5:05 pm : link
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cap room to absorb his 23M cap number. What contender is gonna be able to do that and remain a contender?
Not even close. The number is a little ove $10MM, and it drops by about $700K each week.

Not saying it will happen. Just correcting the math. The acquiring team would only be liable for his remaining salary.
RE: RE: They'd have to have or be able to create enough  
Heisenberg : 9/16/2019 5:08 pm : link
In comment 14581001 Big Blue Blogger said:
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cap room to absorb his 23M cap number. What contender is gonna be able to do that and remain a contender?

Not even close. The number is a little ove $10MM, and it drops by about $700K each week.

Not saying it will happen. Just correcting the math. The acquiring team would only be liable for his remaining salary.

this is where I got the cap number - ( New Window )
Why would a team want Eli?  
Larry from WV : 9/16/2019 5:09 pm : link
Not being mean, just not sure he has any value even if he did waive his no trade clause.
RE: RE: They'd have to have or be able to create enough  
eli4life : 9/16/2019 5:09 pm : link
In comment 14581001 Big Blue Blogger said:
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cap room to absorb his 23M cap number. What contender is gonna be able to do that and remain a contender?

Not even close. The number is a little ove $10MM, and it drops by about $700K each week.

Not saying it will happen. Just correcting the math. The acquiring team would only be liable for his remaining salary.


Donít think we could absorb the hit if trading or releasing him unless they can push it to next year but with taking all the hits this year dead cap wise to be rid of them that would be kinda stupid
Eli  
DanMetroMan : 9/16/2019 5:12 pm : link
really only makes sense for a contender who loses their veteran QB in a season they are doing well and they do not have a clear heir apparent they are grooming ie the Steelers don't make sense as the Steelers are clearly moving forward with Mason Rudolph. If a team like Seattle lost Russell Wilson near the deadline or maybe if Mahomes went down etc.
Great story to go home to N.O.  
larryflower37 : 9/16/2019 5:15 pm : link
And help to lead the saints until Brees is back but I don't think he is much better than Bridgewater right now since he has been in that system for 2 years.
The time for a trade was before camp  
Sneakers O'toole : 9/16/2019 5:19 pm : link
Eli isn't going to agree to a trade now. It's not in his interest to try and learn a new offense on the fly in season and compete. Not to mention the disruption to his off the field/family life

I see no chance of him saying yes to a trade now. Back in April? Maybe, maybe not.
RE: The team that makes the most sense IMO is New Orleans  
djstat : 9/16/2019 5:22 pm : link
In comment 14580937 Jay on the Island said:
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Not in a trade but if the Giants were to release Eli he could go to the Saints where he would have a great supporting cast. Their offense is built for a pocket passer anyway.
New Orleans has $2.6 Million in cap space. Eli's remaining cap hit is $10.14 Million. Why does this trade make sense to you? For a team whose QB will be back in six weeks and they invested in Bridgewater?
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Diver_Down : 9/16/2019 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14581009 eli4life said:
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cap room to absorb his 23M cap number. What contender is gonna be able to do that and remain a contender?

Not even close. The number is a little ove $10MM, and it drops by about $700K each week.

Not saying it will happen. Just correcting the math. The acquiring team would only be liable for his remaining salary.



Donít think we could absorb the hit if trading or releasing him unless they can push it to next year but with taking all the hits this year dead cap wise to be rid of them that would be kinda stupid


The cap hit is already factored into this year's cap. There is no future hit to absorb. BBB is correct that the new team only has to pay Eli's salary which is reduced by his weekly check of about $719K/wk. So far we have paid $1.4M, so there is $10.1M remaining. After TB, then $9.4M and so on. Each week that we pay is less that the other team pays. Heisenberg is wrong.
RE: RE: The team that makes the most sense IMO is New Orleans  
Diver_Down : 9/16/2019 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14581048 djstat said:
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Not in a trade but if the Giants were to release Eli he could go to the Saints where he would have a great supporting cast. Their offense is built for a pocket passer anyway.

New Orleans has $2.6 Million in cap space. Eli's remaining cap hit is $10.14 Million. Why does this trade make sense to you? For a team whose QB will be back in six weeks and they invested in Bridgewater?


Teddy sucks. Did you watch yesterday? After this week, the salary remaining is $9.4M. A team can make room if it wants to.
Zero,zilch,nada....forget about it.  
Blue21 : 9/16/2019 5:38 pm : link
If anyone picked up the phone it would be to laugh at us for even trying.
Do everybody a favor and just release  
Motley Two : 9/16/2019 5:55 pm : link
him. Then he can decide if he wants to join up with another team and that team can decide if they want to try to bring him into the fold.

Giants compensation will be seeing what they have in Jones
RE: Do everybody a favor and just release  
Diver_Down : 9/16/2019 6:02 pm : link
In comment 14581111 Motley Two said:
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him. Then he can decide if he wants to join up with another team and that team can decide if they want to try to bring him into the fold.

Giants compensation will be seeing what they have in Jones


We get no cap savings if he is released. As a vested veteran, he can claim his salary as termination pay. We would take the full $23M cap hit. If he is traded even for a 7th, then we will save the remaining salary on our cap.
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