Im sure we can all agree that the Giants arent a playoff team this year. Were playing so many young players that this team is clearly trying to build for the future. And if we agree on that, i honestly cant think of a single legitimate reason not to start Jones now. From a developmental perspective, there is no better way to improve than from experience. DJ was supposedly the most pro ready QB to come out of the draft. He started 4 yrs at Duke under someone who is considered one of the best QB coaches in the country. He also looked phenomenal in preseason. Like all rookies, there are things he obviously needs to clean up (ex: fumbles) but what is the argument people have for keeping him on the sidelines? Is there something Im missing?
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Frankly, I think they HAVE to start him now.
Just saw an ESPN replay of an Eli interview - he's saying he'll do 'whatever is needed' of him.
I don't think Eli expects to start game 3.
In short, yes, you can damage a players ability to reach their expected potential or expand their actual potential but being forced to play too soon.
Which does not mean it will every time. It just increases the risk.
Plus, if you bench Eli in game three, why didnt you cut him and save 213 million or whatever towards the cap?
Not a concern.
Probably because he's curious to see if Gettleman is batting a thousand in the shitty moves department.
Plus, if you bench Eli in game three, why didnt you cut him and save 213 million or whatever towards the cap?
He was on the roster week 1, you aren't saving jack at this point.
Not sure what this means? I opposed the pick so i should root against him and my team? Sounds like a pretty dumb take.
I could think the pick was dreadful while still hoping like hell im wrong.
I dont agree. First off the OL is good and you have Barkley and Engram. And the schedule isnt brutal. And shep might be back this Sunday. Not to mention while the backup WRs arent worth much they arent embarrassing themselves out there.
Play jones. Its time.
Jones needs to takes his lumps now. Get exposed to real game speed. Get hit. Get crushed. Make awful decisions.
And then demonstrate he can figure it out.
And if he can't, then the sooner we identify that the sooner we can correct the mistake.
That is the only reason its not happening.
Me too.
Jones needs to takes his lumps now. Get exposed to real game speed. Get hit. Get crushed. Make awful decisions.
And then demonstrate he can figure it out.
And if he can't, then the sooner we identify that the sooner we can correct the mistake.
Exactly. If he doesn't turn out to be the guy I just hope he sucks so bad we are in a position to draft Lawrence. Don't see that happening unless his fumbling problems are incurable. There are a shocking amount of people that think we'll draft a QB if he doesn't look good this year which is insane.
I wouldn't though. Th WR's suck. They also run the damn wrong routes. This would be awful for Jones. I don't think he is going to get "better" playing behind such crap. It may lead him to become more indecisive / develop happy feet etc.
Wait for Tate to come back so the kid could have some experience to throw to. The defense is going to stack the line. Give Jones the bets possible chance to succeed - you shouldn't want to see him out there throwing to the keystone cops.
I want a full arsenal for Jones. Not some halfass scrap heap mess. I don't think you can learn for the most part with such poor play from the WR's.
+1
This team needs an infusion of excitement and hope, plus with a high probability they will be drafting high again this season, they need to find out if they were correct about Jones ASAP.
I see no downside to starting him now.
They also need to be sure they can motivate and guide the team through the rest of this season, and not send the wrong message on how to handle it. Mara still wants the stadium full each week, etc.
The losses don't bother me as much as how they are losing.
The WR argument is lame too. He played at Duke, he is used to throwing to WRs that cannot get separation. The Giants have a good OL, Barkley and Engram - the cupboard isn't bare here. The bucs secondary is also one of the worst in the league and the redskins defense has not looked great this year. Now is actually one of the better spots to get him out there.
They also need to be sure they can motivate and guide the team through the rest of this season, and not send the wrong message on how to handle it. Mara still wants the stadium full each week, etc.
Small sample, and know preseason, but jones (looking thru the tea leaves) had a situation of making the bad int and coming right back with a drive and score. Again small sample. You can only baby a qb so much. My philosphy you learn by playing or etc. This season is not a season of contention, never was in reality considering still the roster build up. Enough is enough here.i mean really
They also need to be sure they can motivate and guide the team through the rest of this season, and not send the wrong message on how to handle it. Mara still wants the stadium full each week, etc.
+1 This is the truth.
This team has a ton of new and very young parts on defense. They should get better, but they are still deficient across the board at LB.
For the love of God, STOP staring in the backfield and biting on play fakes!
He has to gain pocket awareness and protect the football.
This team has a ton of new and very young parts on defense. They should get better, but they are still deficient across the board at LB.
For the love of God, STOP staring in the backfield and biting on play fakes!
When a 12 year pro like Bethea is doing it, you have to scratch your head. Bettcher is really doing a poor job(in my very amateurish opinion) for a guy who came here with a great reputation.
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10 days to prepare, home game, not the Patriots... Tate will be back, Shepard should be fine by then, hopefully Slayton will be in the fold.
Gets him 10 starts as a rookie. I think that's enough to have him prepared to be the starter in 2020 and beyond.
If we keep playing like this, though... yeah, it's hard to even make any argument for delaying it much further. I didn't expect to beat Dallas... but I also didn't expect to be utterly incapable of stopping Josh Allen and the Bills offense. If this is where we're at... there's really not much point in just sending Eli out there over and over.
That said, maybe start him for the next home game if things stay on this path.