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Internet Rumors on Minkah Fitzpatrick and Jalen Ramsey

Vin_Cuccs : 9/16/2019 8:15 pm
Eagles, Packers in on Minkah Fitzpatrick. Deal could come this week.

Chiefs, Seahawks, Jets in on Jalen Ramsey.

Just rumors for now....
We should be all over Minkah  
Giantz_comeback : 9/16/2019 8:16 pm : link
That would be a huge boost in an area we need.
RE: We should be all over Minkah  
Eman11 : 9/16/2019 8:19 pm : link
In comment 14581301 Giantz_comeback said:
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That would be a huge boost in an area we need.


Agreed with the added bonus of keeping him away from the Eagles
go Pack go  
Greg from LI : 9/16/2019 8:20 pm : link
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I don't think DG is willing  
Simms11 : 9/16/2019 8:22 pm : link
to give up the picks required. We're not one player away from being competitive. Ramsey is a head case! One I'm sure we're not willing to bring in and screw up chemistry. I'm hoping Beal gets back this year and shows something. I also think Chandler needs to get some time at safety. He knows the system. He's been here now and he is probably going to get to a play quicker then Bethea right now. Let Bethea come in as a third safety like Deon Grant used to.
Fitzpatrick is a great young player...  
Vin_Cuccs : 9/16/2019 8:24 pm : link
...but with the team facing a complete rebuild from top to bottom, I don’t know if giving away draft capital is the best idea.
RE: I don't think DG is willing  
Sonic Youth : 9/16/2019 8:26 pm : link
In comment 14581309 Simms11 said:
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to give up the picks required. We're not one player away from being competitive. Ramsey is a head case! One I'm sure we're not willing to bring in and screw up chemistry. I'm hoping Beal gets back this year and shows something. I also think Chandler needs to get some time at safety. He knows the system. He's been here now and he is probably going to get to a play quicker then Bethea right now. Let Bethea come in as a third safety like Deon Grant used to.
What chemistry? What are we trying to protect here?
no thank you to either  
GiantsFan84 : 9/16/2019 8:27 pm : link
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RE: Fitzpatrick is a great young player...  
Giantz_comeback : 9/16/2019 8:27 pm : link
In comment 14581317 Vin_Cuccs said:
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...but with the team facing a complete rebuild from top to bottom, I don’t know if giving away draft capital is the best idea.


You are talking about a 1st round pick talent at a critical position of need for Bettcher's Defense.

I am talking a 2nd round pick and maybe something else not a first though.
I get it. Good player.  
Vin_Cuccs : 9/16/2019 8:31 pm : link
I just don’t see it happening. He’s going to cost too much. He’s going to need new contract eventually.

We have suffered long enough. Do it the right way, and build through the draft.
If Minkah was a great free safety maybe  
Rjanyg : 9/16/2019 8:33 pm : link
But he hasn’t gotten there yet.

We need our premium picks next year to get a pass rusher, WR, ILB and FS.
I'd offer them Jenkins. Or one of our young corners not named Baker.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/16/2019 8:38 pm : link
Yeah, I know, Baker's a bust after two weeks, yada yada yada.

They're probably going to want premium draft picks. But if they feel they have a chance to win now, they might be willing to trade one temperamental cornerback for another.
RE: no thank you to either  
prdave73 : 9/16/2019 8:40 pm : link
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I’m guessing you like the state of this team & Organization? This is exactly why this team is in the situation they are in now! They don’t take chances or make bold moves to improve this team! They have no balls.. Same reason Eagles @ Cowboys are having more success, they make these moves. Look at the Packers defense now? You have to start fixing the problem and this moves would be a good start..
RE: RE: Fitzpatrick is a great young player...  
robbieballs2003 : 9/16/2019 8:41 pm : link
In comment 14581330 Giantz_comeback said:
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...but with the team facing a complete rebuild from top to bottom, I don’t know if giving away draft capital is the best idea.



You are talking about a 1st round pick talent at a critical position of need for Bettcher's Defense.

I am talking a 2nd round pick and maybe something else not a first though.


No thanks. Next year's draft is going to be loaded and loaded at areas of need for us.
RE: RE: no thank you to either  
robbieballs2003 : 9/16/2019 8:43 pm : link
In comment 14581367 prdave73 said:
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I’m guessing you like the state of this team & Organization? This is exactly why this team is in the situation they are in now! They don’t take chances or make bold moves to improve this team! They have no balls.. Same reason Eagles @ Cowboys are having more success, they make these moves. Look at the Packers defense now? You have to start fixing the problem and this moves would be a good start..


What? They don't make bold moves? They just drafted their QB of the future when all they did was take shit. That wasn't bold?

But you are way off base. We aren't where we are for not making bold moves. That is just ridiculous. We are in this position for years of bad drafting. We have started to turn the corner. This was always a three year rebuild. This team, imo, is headed in the right direction. The problem is that our coaching sucks. Our talent level is not where it needs to be but it is getting there. This has zero to do with making bold moves.
Can we trade our 2019 2nd, 4th and 5th rounder for Ramsey?  
sb from NYT Forum : 9/16/2019 8:43 pm : link
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Update on Fitzpatrick from LaCanfora:  
Vin_Cuccs : 9/16/2019 8:44 pm : link
Minkah Fitzpatrick trade likely to be wrapped up by tomorrow. The Dolphins expected to get 1st round value for him. Hearing WSH, DAL, KC, PIT, PHI and SEA all in the mix. Offers are being made
RE: Update on Fitzpatrick from LaCanfora:  
Eman11 : 9/16/2019 8:51 pm : link
In comment 14581377 Vin_Cuccs said:
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Minkah Fitzpatrick trade likely to be wrapped up by tomorrow. The Dolphins expected to get 1st round value for him. Hearing WSH, DAL, KC, PIT, PHI and SEA all in the mix. Offers are being made


Great. Every team in our division has shown interest except us.

Here's hoping he goes to KC or Pit.
RE: Fitzpatrick is a great young player...  
DavidinBMNY : 9/16/2019 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14581317 Vin_Cuccs said:
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...but with the team facing a complete rebuild from top to bottom, I don’t know if giving away draft capital is the best idea.
Neither does ownership.
RE: We should be all over Minkah  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/16/2019 8:57 pm : link
In comment 14581301 Giantz_comeback said:
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That would be a huge boost in an area we need.


No shot. First they spent 3 picks including Elvis Patterson the 2 w a late first. They can’t admit they missed thst bad.

Also zero chance Giants can give up next years first. Looking like a top 5 pick. And the better teams will be willing to part with their most likely late first rounder. .
RE: RE: Update on Fitzpatrick from LaCanfora:  
The_Boss : 9/16/2019 9:00 pm : link
In comment 14581390 Eman11 said:
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Minkah Fitzpatrick trade likely to be wrapped up by tomorrow. The Dolphins expected to get 1st round value for him. Hearing WSH, DAL, KC, PIT, PHI and SEA all in the mix. Offers are being made



Great. Every team in our division has shown interest except us.

Here's hoping he goes to KC or Pit.


First round value? What’s that mean? Someone gives up a first? If so, I don’t want in on the bidding. I’m not going to want to surrender what could be a top 5 pick for a DB.
players wanting to be traded  
madgiantscow009 : 9/16/2019 9:01 pm : link
is going to rise exponentially.
Wasn't Ramsey considered a possible safety prospect  
widmerseyebrow : 9/16/2019 9:05 pm : link
coming out?
When You Have a Legitimate Chance to be a Bottom 3 Team...  
Jim in Tampa : 9/16/2019 9:09 pm : link
You don't give up draft picks.
RE: RE: I don't think DG is willing  
Simms11 : 9/16/2019 9:09 pm : link
In comment 14581325 Sonic Youth said:
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to give up the picks required. We're not one player away from being competitive. Ramsey is a head case! One I'm sure we're not willing to bring in and screw up chemistry. I'm hoping Beal gets back this year and shows something. I also think Chandler needs to get some time at safety. He knows the system. He's been here now and he is probably going to get to a play quicker then Bethea right now. Let Bethea come in as a third safety like Deon Grant used to.

What chemistry? What are we trying to protect here?


Did you forget why we supposedly got rid of OBJ? Do you think they’d bring in another head case?!
RE: RE: RE: Update on Fitzpatrick from LaCanfora:  
Eman11 : 9/16/2019 9:11 pm : link
In comment 14581412 The_Boss said:
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In comment 14581377 Vin_Cuccs said:


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Minkah Fitzpatrick trade likely to be wrapped up by tomorrow. The Dolphins expected to get 1st round value for him. Hearing WSH, DAL, KC, PIT, PHI and SEA all in the mix. Offers are being made



Great. Every team in our division has shown interest except us.

Here's hoping he goes to KC or Pit.



First round value? What’s that mean? Someone gives up a first? If so, I don’t want in on the bidding. I’m not going to want to surrender what could be a top 5 pick for a DB.


I'm assuming it means a couple of picks that add up to 1st rd value. I'd consider that but agree I wouldn't want to give up a possible top 5 pick either.
Update #2  
Vin_Cuccs : 9/16/2019 9:55 pm : link
Steelers seem to be the front runner for Fitzpatrick.
And there it is.  
Vin_Cuccs : 9/16/2019 10:16 pm : link
Fitzpatrick to Pittsburgh for a 1st rounder.
RE: And there it is.  
BH28 : 9/16/2019 10:21 pm : link
In comment 14581632 Vin_Cuccs said:
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Fitzpatrick to Pittsburgh for a 1st rounder.


Good call by Miami. Steelers have the chance to be top 10 bad this year
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