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DC Gmen Fan : 9/16/2019 8:17 pm
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If I hadn't been conditioned to watch NFL games  
Reese's Pieces : 9/16/2019 9:43 pm : link
from the time I was twelve, and when players were expected to hit hard, and you could tell whether a catch was made without super slow motion replay, would I be watching this?

Dancing with the Stars is more entertaining than this.
Mayfield  
AcidTest : 9/16/2019 9:43 pm : link
with a lot of misfires.
Odell injured. Again.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/16/2019 9:44 pm : link
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Almost half time.  
BlueHurricane : 9/16/2019 9:44 pm : link
Odell needs an IV
RE: Baker looks  
Nine-Tails : 9/16/2019 9:44 pm : link
In comment 14581514 Everyone Relax said:
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completely out of control


Very underwhelming. First time actually watching him in the NFL and doesn't look like the rising superstar pundits made him out to be.
Odell looks like he's cramping again  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/16/2019 9:44 pm : link
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there goes odell to get his IV  
GiantsFan84 : 9/16/2019 9:44 pm : link
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Baker is not impressive  
ron mexico : 9/16/2019 9:45 pm : link
Odell is delivering with being in script.
OBJ cramps  
jvm52106 : 9/16/2019 9:45 pm : link
and had to go in to the lockeroom while Browns were still driving under 35 seconds...
Mayfield - 50% completions, 167 yards, 0 TDs  
PatersonPlank : 9/16/2019 9:45 pm : link
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How  
AcidTest : 9/16/2019 9:45 pm : link
can the Jets give up a 26 yard pass on third and 20 with less than 30 seconds left in the half?
Pedialyte time  
Motley Two : 9/16/2019 9:46 pm : link
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RE: Pedialyte time  
markky : 9/16/2019 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14581548 Motley Two said:
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LOL
RE: OBJ cramps  
Diver_Down : 9/16/2019 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14581544 jvm52106 said:
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and had to go in to the lockeroom while Browns were still driving under 35 seconds...


Seriously? In Ron's prediction thread, I called for an IV.
Player on the Jets did exactly what Dexter Lawrence did  
BlueHurricane : 9/16/2019 9:47 pm : link
And didnít get called. Iíd venture to say it happens on every field goal.
The Jets are on their 3rd string QB  
Chris684 : 9/16/2019 9:47 pm : link
No Mosley and never had any corners to begin with and this is the bet the Browns can do!?

Mayfield looked better last season  
justafan : 9/16/2019 9:48 pm : link
not sure what is going on with him. The book is not written but DG may deserve a lot of credit with not pulling the trigger on any of those QBs in the 2018 class.
Didn't win with Beckham  
Gmen703 : 9/16/2019 9:48 pm : link
... Didn't win too much with Saquon either.. see how that works.
RE: If I hadn't been conditioned to watch NFL games  
latichever : 9/16/2019 9:48 pm : link

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from the time I was twelve, and when players were expected to hit hard


Touch Football, Sold as Safer, Now Requires a Helmet

A Texas program for high schools mandated soft-shell helmets after serious injuries occurred during incidental contact.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/20/sports/football/football-safety-touch-flag-helmets.html
RE: Player on the Jets did exactly what Dexter Lawrence did  
justafan : 9/16/2019 9:49 pm : link
In comment 14581552 BlueHurricane said:
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And didnít get called. Iíd venture to say it happens on every field goal.


The announcers and the NFL ref that comes on during broadcasts called the refs out for it. Dumb call, but unlikely that it affected the outcome. Though the Giants D doesn't get the small credit they should've for a goal stand.
Baker made some nice throws  
Reese's Pieces : 9/16/2019 9:50 pm : link
but missed about half a dozen open receivers.
RE: Player on the Jets did exactly what Dexter Lawrence did  
Diver_Down : 9/16/2019 9:51 pm : link
In comment 14581552 BlueHurricane said:
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And didnít get called. Iíd venture to say it happens on every field goal.


I didn't watch closely, but did the center raise his head after the snap? The center is only protected while his head is down. In the Bills game, Dex had to be readjusted before the snap so that he wasn't lining up over the center. But immediately after the snap, Dex moved over the center while the head was down. It is a penalty and good coaching. It is a cheap penalty, but it is a point of emphasis and the refs are watching. It gave the Bills a new set of downs and allowed the score.
RE: RE: Player on the Jets did exactly what Dexter Lawrence did  
justafan : 9/16/2019 9:52 pm : link
In comment 14581565 Diver_Down said:
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And didnít get called. Iíd venture to say it happens on every field goal.



I didn't watch closely, but did the center raise his head after the snap? The center is only protected while his head is down. In the Bills game, Dex had to be readjusted before the snap so that he wasn't lining up over the center. But immediately after the snap, Dex moved over the center while the head was down. It is a penalty and good coaching. It is a cheap penalty, but it is a point of emphasis and the refs are watching. It gave the Bills a new set of downs and allowed the score.


Dex literally put his arm on the guys back as he shuffled to his right to go through the gap and get his hand up to block the kick. It was incidental looking.
RE: Didn't win with Beckham  
crick n NC : 9/16/2019 9:52 pm : link
In comment 14581555 Gmen703 said:
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... Didn't win too much with Saquon either.. see how that works.


Of course, although Saquon isn't the headache Odell is.
RE: RE: Player on the Jets did exactly what Dexter Lawrence did  
BlueHurricane : 9/16/2019 9:53 pm : link
In comment 14581565 Diver_Down said:
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And didnít get called. Iíd venture to say it happens on every field goal.



I didn't watch closely, but did the center raise his head after the snap? The center is only protected while his head is down. In the Bills game, Dex had to be readjusted before the snap so that he wasn't lining up over the center. But immediately after the snap, Dex moved over the center while the head was down. It is a penalty and good coaching. It is a cheap penalty, but it is a point of emphasis and the refs are watching. It gave the Bills a new set of downs and allowed the score.


I couldnít see the centers head. The Jets player was blocking it
Wtf is on my tv  
bubba0825 : 9/16/2019 9:55 pm : link
Who are these people?
The point is that yes, it is a cheap penalty.  
Diver_Down : 9/16/2019 9:56 pm : link
But if the ST coach tells the center to keep his head down (not an instinctive reaction), then it will be called.
Not to sound like a cranky old man, but...  
jnoble : 9/16/2019 9:57 pm : link
Can they have just ONE halftime show that doesn't have some shitty rap or autotuned disposable garbage music?
RE: RE: Didn't win with Beckham  
Gmen703 : 9/16/2019 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14581571 crick n NC said:
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... Didn't win too much with Saquon either.. see how that works.



Of course, although Saquon isn't the headache Odell is.


Touchť
RE: Not to sound like a cranky old man, but...  
BlueHurricane : 9/16/2019 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14581582 jnoble said:
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Can they have just ONE halftime show that doesn't have some shitty rap or autotuned disposable garbage music?


Right there with you and I ainít that old. Shit is horrendous.
Myles Garrett single handedly  
section125 : 9/16/2019 10:01 pm : link
destroying the Jets....
RE: Wtf is on my tv  
jvm52106 : 9/16/2019 10:04 pm : link
In comment 14581577 bubba0825 said:
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Who are these people?


Repetitive lyrics in any language sucks..
RE: RE: RE: Player on the Jets did exactly what Dexter Lawrence did  
section125 : 9/16/2019 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14581573 BlueHurricane said:
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And didnít get called. Iíd venture to say it happens on every field goal.



I didn't watch closely, but did the center raise his head after the snap? The center is only protected while his head is down. In the Bills game, Dex had to be readjusted before the snap so that he wasn't lining up over the center. But immediately after the snap, Dex moved over the center while the head was down. It is a penalty and good coaching. It is a cheap penalty, but it is a point of emphasis and the refs are watching. It gave the Bills a new set of downs and allowed the score.



I couldnít see the centers head. The Jets player was blocking it


The penalty is supposed to protect the center while in a defenseless position. Gene Steratore said that what Lawrence did, basically moving across and brushing him is not engaging, not pushing him backward and does not meet the criteria of the penalty. It was a blown call.
RE: Pedialyte time  
madgiantscow009 : 9/16/2019 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14581548 Motley Two said:
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It didn't work out, but the aborted screen is a prime example of needi  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/16/2019 10:09 pm : link
needing to make plays off script
Am I reading the box score right??  
bw in dc : 9/16/2019 10:11 pm : link
Jets have -15 yards passing...??
Is that Shurmur calling plays the Browns?  
justafan : 9/16/2019 10:11 pm : link
Your arguably pro-bowl caliber RB just gained 8 yards on 2nd and 10, so you take him out for a 3rd and 2. You then run a bubble screen and your QB scrambles for a loss.

Why not just pound the rock on 3rd and 2. You have a good RB and your QB is struggling. You also have a 16-3 lead at midfield.

Browns or Giants, if you're looking for a new OC call me. I'll at least be league average.
RE: How  
FStubbs : 9/16/2019 10:12 pm : link
In comment 14581546 AcidTest said:
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can the Jets give up a 26 yard pass on third and 20 with less than 30 seconds left in the half?


You act as if the Giants defense wouldn't do this too.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Player on the Jets did exactly what Dexter Lawrence did  
Diver_Down : 9/16/2019 10:14 pm : link
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And didnít get called. Iíd venture to say it happens on every field goal.



I didn't watch closely, but did the center raise his head after the snap? The center is only protected while his head is down. In the Bills game, Dex had to be readjusted before the snap so that he wasn't lining up over the center. But immediately after the snap, Dex moved over the center while the head was down. It is a penalty and good coaching. It is a cheap penalty, but it is a point of emphasis and the refs are watching. It gave the Bills a new set of downs and allowed the score.



I couldnít see the centers head. The Jets player was blocking it



The penalty is supposed to protect the center while in a defenseless position. Gene Steratore said that what Lawrence did, basically moving across and brushing him is not engaging, not pushing him backward and does not meet the criteria of the penalty. It was a blown call.


I listened to Steratore's reasoning. And while I agree that the spirit of the rule and what Dexter did should not elicit a flag. The letter of the rule is that the center is protected while in a defenseless posture (head down). Maintaining the posture allows for the center to be protected. It is a difficult instinct to overcome. Ticky-tack cheap penalty, but the it is an absolute penalty as the rule is written.
RE: RE: How  
AcidTest : 9/16/2019 10:14 pm : link
In comment 14581615 FStubbs said:
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can the Jets give up a 26 yard pass on third and 20 with less than 30 seconds left in the half?



You act as if the Giants defense wouldn't do this too.


Touche.
That  
AcidTest : 9/16/2019 10:14 pm : link
was horrible by Beachum. Garrett just pushed him right back into Falk.
Not impressed with the Browns at all  
jpkmets : 9/16/2019 10:18 pm : link
Baker got nothing tonight and his WRs arenít exactly getting open.
What a duck of a pass  
justafan : 9/16/2019 10:22 pm : link
...
"Every time you have an underthrown ball,  
Mr. Bungle : 9/16/2019 10:23 pm : link
it's an advantage for the offense." -- Booger
'Any time you have an underthrown ball it's an adv to the offense'  
ChaChing : 9/16/2019 10:25 pm : link
what Booger? Underthrows never get picked when they are, you know, off target by definition?
RE:  
ChaChing : 9/16/2019 10:25 pm : link
In comment 14581652 Mr. Bungle said:
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it's an advantage for the offense." -- Booger

exactly lol
Lol didn't he push him out BEFORE the ball came to him  
ChaChing : 9/16/2019 10:27 pm : link
ie, PI? I guess they aren't complaining so maybe not but...
RE: Lol didn't he push him out BEFORE the ball came to him  
JayBinQueens : 9/16/2019 10:27 pm : link
In comment 14581661 ChaChing said:
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ie, PI? I guess they aren't complaining so maybe not but...


Totally thought he was shoved too
Ah nice. Another team that needs 2 yds for a 1st so starts the play  
ChaChing : 9/16/2019 10:28 pm : link
w/ a throw 3 yds behind the LOS
Well...  
bw in dc : 9/16/2019 10:29 pm : link
that was interesting...
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