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NGT: Steelers Trade For DB Minkah Fitzpatrick

Saos1n : 9/16/2019 10:11 pm
For a 2020 1st round pick
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its also possible they feel Fitzpatrick is better than where he  
UConn4523 : 9/17/2019 8:39 am : link
went last year. I don't know, its an interesting trade, I can see the downside though. If Rudolph stinks and its a top 5 pick, that's a rough pill to swallow.
Rudolph can be 'good' for a rookie  
giants#1 : 9/17/2019 8:52 am : link
like Mayfield last year and still only win 4-5 games while they land a top 10 pick. They also lose a year of cost control with Fitzpatrick, which is substantial (though save some $$ from the SB he earned).
I like the trade  
JonC : 9/17/2019 8:56 am : link
Steelers have two foundation talents in him and Bush, and they're adept at identifying top talent on defense. They clearly like Ben to play a few more seasons, I like the gamble for them.

Giants also liked Rudolph, btw.
Also, to be fair to the Steelers  
Sean : 9/17/2019 9:05 am : link
Draft picks are like cars, they lose a ton of value when you actually pick the player. Steelers may not get a player as good as Fitzpatrick in the draft.
Based on the contract Ben just signed  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2019 9:07 am : link
it's highly unlikely that he's not with the Steelers next season because there's a substantial cap bomb if they part ways. The injury isn't career-threatening and Ben did say in no uncertain terms he has every intention of coming back.
Dolphins  
Professor Falken : 9/17/2019 9:13 am : link
2020 Draft-Three #1s, two #2s.

2021 Draft-Two #1s, two #2s.
The Steelers probably surveyed the field  
jcn56 : 9/17/2019 9:13 am : link
and think even in a worst case scenario they're not picking top 10.

If it's a mid to late round pick, that's a good get for Fitzpatrick. They'll also take the message it sends to the team that they're not running from BR's injury.

It could certainly backfire on them, especially if they were wrong about their own fortunes or the bad teams around the NFL. But it's a sound calculated risk if they really like the player.

Sound calculated risks are ones the Giants stopped taking a long time ago.
Hate this trade  
Bramton1 : 9/17/2019 9:13 am : link
The Steelers can really only have two outcomes to this. Either Rudolph is the future and Ben is done in Pittsburgh, or Ben returns next year and the Steelers don't have their QB of the future on the roster nor a first round pik to draft him.

If Rudolph is your future, you can't play him all season and then dump him back on the bench in 2020 in favor of a 38-year old QB. You just can't.

Just imagine if we turned to Jones within the next few weeks, he did well enough to give us hope for the future, then we resigned Eli and named him the starter in 2020.
How  
AcidTest : 9/17/2019 9:16 am : link
can the Steelers already be so confident in Rudolph that they're willing to give up a potential and likely top 10 pick? Rudolph has hardly played.
RE: Hate this trade  
bw in dc : 9/17/2019 9:23 am : link
In comment 14582134 Bramton1 said:
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The Steelers can really only have two outcomes to this. Either Rudolph is the future and Ben is done in Pittsburgh, or Ben returns next year and the Steelers don't have their QB of the future on the roster nor a first round pik to draft him.


Perhaps Colbert has his draft board for 2020 set-up and he doesn’t like the top ten value vs Fitzpatrick’s value. So he’d rather the take the player with NFL experience, and pro bowl type skills, versus drafting the unknown.
RE: Hate this trade  
giants#1 : 9/17/2019 9:37 am : link
In comment 14582134 Bramton1 said:
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The Steelers can really only have two outcomes to this. Either Rudolph is the future and Ben is done in Pittsburgh, or Ben returns next year and the Steelers don't have their QB of the future on the roster nor a first round pik to draft him.

If Rudolph is your future, you can't play him all season and then dump him back on the bench in 2020 in favor of a 38-year old QB. You just can't.

Just imagine if we turned to Jones within the next few weeks, he did well enough to give us hope for the future, then we resigned Eli and named him the starter in 2020.


To be fair, Ben was playing at a much higher level than Eli, at least if you look at his performance last season.

But I agree with the premise. They're not competing this year with Rudolph which means they're essentially out 2 years of cost control (vs next years 1st round pick). And they can easily pick top 10. Still 4 games left with BAL/CLE, games against the Chargers, Colts, Rams, 49ers, etc. I can certainly see 10 losses for them.
Rudolph played well on Sunday  
Kyle in NY : 9/17/2019 9:45 am : link
the issue was the Steelers couldn't get a stop in the second half. The playoff bubble in the AFC is extremely weak, they're still in contention.
RE: RE: some of Miami's first round picks  
Festina Lente : 9/17/2019 11:11 am : link
In comment 14581787 Nine-Tails said:
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In comment 14581778 Giantsfan79 said:


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will look really good when they have trade them to us to move up to #1 to get Tua.



Now this would be something
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Lol as if the Dolphins would let anyone be worse than them this year
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