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Odds Eli is Traded???

Saos1n : 9/17/2019 10:23 am
I know he has a no trade clause, but if he still thinks he can get it done, maybe heís open to a new start?

Jacksonville? Reunited with Tom? Unlikely, considering Minshew has looked decent. That fan base would explode.

Jets? Just lost 2 QBs in a weeks time. Falk looked decent, but that would allow Eli to start and not leave the area, which he has been vocal about about being important.

Thoughts? Flame away
Doesnt he have a no trade clause  
GiantGiantsFan : 9/17/2019 10:23 am : link
?
It's more likely they release him  
Jay on the Island : 9/17/2019 10:23 am : link
and let him choose his next destination.
Very little  
Mark from Jersey : 9/17/2019 10:24 am : link
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Minshew was terrible this week.  
Strahan91 : 9/17/2019 10:25 am : link
Jax is the only place that makes any sense but they don't have the cap space to absorb his contract.
RE: It's more likely they release him  
ron mexico : 9/17/2019 10:25 am : link
In comment 14582466 Jay on the Island said:
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and let him choose his next destination.


fuck that. We are paying him either way.

Let him impart all that knowledge on Jones and be around to come off the bench in the worst case scenario.
Oooh sorry  
GiantGiantsFan : 9/17/2019 10:25 am : link
should have read the body of your post before commenting lol
He could waive the clause  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 9/17/2019 10:25 am : link
but I can't imagine why he would. If they release him he can weigh his options.

Also, I'm not convinced anybody would trade for him.
keeping Tanney  
mushroom : 9/17/2019 10:25 am : link
kind of makes sense now if they either trade or release Eli.
if Mason Rudolph sucks the Steelers would make sense in a couple weeks  
Eric on Li : 9/17/2019 10:25 am : link
since they seem to be going for it. But most likely he just finishes out his career here as backup. Obviously injuries happen too so who knows, he could end up back in again here. Mono is going around.
No one is taking Eli on  
Default : 9/17/2019 10:26 am : link
He is done
The odds are...  
M.S. : 9/17/2019 10:26 am : link

...zero IMO.

There's no demand.
people who  
AndyMilligan : 9/17/2019 10:26 am : link
think Eli has any trade value do not know what they are seeing on the field. I doubt there is any significant market for Eli. Maybe if he is cut, someone will add him as a backup.
RE: It's more likely they release him  
bigbluehoya : 9/17/2019 10:27 am : link
In comment 14582466 Jay on the Island said:
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and let him choose his next destination.


they absolutely should not do this. if there are teams interested, they should work with Eli to get him to the one he'd most want to go to.

I believe at this point, his salary is fully guaranteed. If they trade him, they'll get relief for 14/16 of it and the acquiring team in a trade will pick up the remainder. I could be wrong about this, but if they can recoup ~$13-14M of cap that would roll into the future, they absolutely have to do it.

Team first.
RE: keeping Tanney  
Dinger : 9/17/2019 10:27 am : link
In comment 14582486 mushroom said:
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kind of makes sense now if they either trade or release Eli.


HAHAHAHAHA
Hopefully  
weaverpsu : 9/17/2019 10:28 am : link
He gets traded. Why would they keep him to play only 2 games? That's moronic. And a total waste of money. Don't know why they would bench him now unless their is a trade TBH.
Expect to see Eli start on December 29 at home against the Eagles  
Bramton1 : 9/17/2019 10:28 am : link
For his farewell.
Zero. His diminished skills + his contract  
jlukes : 9/17/2019 10:29 am : link
makes him damn near untradable.

Makes no sense for the Giants to cut him because his salary for the rest of the year is guaranteed.
zero  
cjac : 9/17/2019 10:29 am : link
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Imagine if he was traded to the Jets...  
Capt. Don : 9/17/2019 10:29 am : link
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IF Eli wants to be traded  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/17/2019 10:30 am : link
I would let his agent negotiate with teams. Render the no trade clause irrelevant.

But there is a good chance Eli starts again for the Giants this year.
RE: Expect to see Eli start on December 29 at home against the Eagles  
jlukes : 9/17/2019 10:30 am : link
In comment 14582507 Bramton1 said:
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For his farewell.


I fully expect that - get the start - get a few plays or a series and then have him removed mid-drive so he can get a standing ovation.
Jets, Denver or Jacksonville  
Batenhorst : 9/17/2019 10:30 am : link
Good Luck Eli.....Thanks for the memories

The Jets would seem to be the overwhelming favorite

They actually have a pretty good line-up. Just need an experienced QB
RE: Expect to see Eli start on December 29 at home against the Eagles  
ron mexico : 9/17/2019 10:30 am : link
In comment 14582507 Bramton1 said:
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For his farewell.


You mean like a ceremonial 1 snap type of start?
RE: Minshew was terrible this week.  
bw in dc : 9/17/2019 10:30 am : link
In comment 14582480 Strahan91 said:
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Jax is the only place that makes any sense but they don't have the cap space to absorb his contract.


Not down the stretch he wasn't. He played great on their last drive.
If Eli wants to play  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/17/2019 10:30 am : link
and a team is interested they should release him.

I think they will if this is the case.
RE: RE: Expect to see Eli start on December 29 at home against the Eagles  
ron mexico : 9/17/2019 10:31 am : link
In comment 14582523 jlukes said:
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In comment 14582507 Bramton1 said:


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For his farewell.



I fully expect that - get the start - get a few plays or a series and then have him removed mid-drive so he can get a standing ovation.


Has that ever happened in football before?
RE: RE: Expect to see Eli start on December 29 at home against the Eagles  
Default : 9/17/2019 10:31 am : link
In comment 14582523 jlukes said:
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In comment 14582507 Bramton1 said:


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For his farewell.



I fully expect that - get the start - get a few plays or a series and then have him removed mid-drive so he can get a standing ovation.


And when they lose he can retire with a losing record.
They did this right now to avoid that.
Now letting Lauletta go seems almost insane  
Batenhorst : 9/17/2019 10:32 am : link
They better retrieve him form the Eagles practice squad this week
Release Tanney
RE: If Eli wants to play  
ron mexico : 9/17/2019 10:32 am : link
In comment 14582532 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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and a team is interested they should release him.

I think they will if this is the case.

That depends on if they have offset language in his contract.

No offset language, no release.
Stop the NO Trade Clause CRAP  
jvm52106 : 9/17/2019 10:32 am : link
as Eli can waive it. It isn't a league imposed no trade, Eli could say I will agree to a trade to these destinations...

Jets- very easily could see that. Darnold could be out for a bit. TS is out for the year most likely.

Jags- still possible as AFC South is up for grabs.

Pittsburgh- they could be in the market for a vet if anything happens to Rudolph.

Indianapolis- if Jacboy B were to get hurt they would be a big time possibility.

Minnesota- they are not thrilled with Cousins and have a ton of talent.

Zero  
Jim in Tampa : 9/17/2019 10:33 am : link
He has no trade value.

Maybe if he gets cut some desperate team might pick him up at a greatly reduced salary, but I think it's unlikely.

Barring a Jones injury or a farewell game 17 appearance (which Eli probably wouldn't want to do) I think the NFL has seen the last of Eli.

Even if he wants to play next year I think he'll put out some feelers, but when he realizes that he's not in demand at any price, I think he'll announce his retirement.
Unless someone reaches out to the Giants  
larryflower37 : 9/17/2019 10:33 am : link
Or he asks to be traded.
I can't see the organization openly shopping him or releasing him
Why is no one mentioning New Orleans?  
ArcadeSlumlord : 9/17/2019 10:36 am : link
The most playoff ready team and its close to home for Eli. He and Brees could team up and do something. Just a thought. Bridgewater looked terrible.
Zero! Which teams scheme does he fit? What would the Giants  
SterlingArcher : 9/17/2019 10:36 am : link
want for him? Oh, and Eli has a no trade clause.
The Giants wouldn't trade Eli because he's the ideal backup  
GeofromNJ : 9/17/2019 10:37 am : link
I also think the rest of the league has a different opinion of Eli than do Giants fans. I'd be amazed if any team would be interested in Eli as a starter.
OMg, some of you have NO Football  
jvm52106 : 9/17/2019 10:39 am : link
knowledge.. Eli has NO trade value.. So there are guys walking the street with better ability and possibilities than Eli? So if I am the Jets I am better off signing a street FA?

If I am the Colts and feel ELI will be a security blanket for a team that has SB talent at WR, Oline, Rb and defense?

Jags- I am fine with GM as my QB???

If the Giants got a 6th rd pick for Eli that would be a fine deal for us and the other team gets a guy who can still play with superior talent around him..
RE: OMg, some of you have NO Football  
BillKo : 9/17/2019 10:41 am : link
In comment 14582622 jvm52106 said:
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knowledge.. Eli has NO trade value.. So there are guys walking the street with better ability and possibilities than Eli? So if I am the Jets I am better off signing a street FA?

If I am the Colts and feel ELI will be a security blanket for a team that has SB talent at WR, Oline, Rb and defense?

Jags- I am fine with GM as my QB???

If the Giants got a 6th rd pick for Eli that would be a fine deal for us and the other team gets a guy who can still play with superior talent around him..


Who walking the street has better ability?? LOL
I do think there is a chance  
section125 : 9/17/2019 10:42 am : link
for it to happen. Given the right situation, like New Orleans, he might go for it.

But after watching those fluttering passes last week and the terrible rollout passes, I thought he was done.
Let him work with Daniel Jones  
90.Cal : 9/17/2019 10:42 am : link
The rest of the year. If he wants to keep playing after this year, offer him the back up job/back up money. No one is letting him start elsewhere or giving him starting QB money.

Odds are he retires when the year is over.
RE: Now letting Lauletta go seems almost insane  
Jay in Toronto : 9/17/2019 10:43 am : link
In comment 14582547 Batenhorst said:
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They better retrieve him form the Eagles practice squad this week
Release Tanney


Especially now that he has done a deep dive into their play book
RE: Why is no one mentioning New Orleans?  
Saos1n : 9/17/2019 10:44 am : link
In comment 14582596 ArcadeSlumlord said:
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The most playoff ready team and its close to home for Eli. He and Brees could team up and do something. Just a thought. Bridgewater looked terrible.


Good point. I thought about that after the Brees news we out. However, it wasnít an option because Eli was still the starter. Forgot all about it now thatís jones has been given the ball.

That makes sense
Giants are paying him.  
LS : 9/17/2019 10:48 am : link
He's not going anywhere.
RE: The odds are...  
AcidTest : 9/17/2019 10:48 am : link
In comment 14582498 M.S. said:
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...zero IMO.

There's no demand.


^This. There is no market for Eli. He's done. Nobody wants his contract. Nobody would even trade a seventh, even if he was willing to waive his no trade clause.
RE: RE: Expect to see Eli start on December 29 at home against the Eagles  
BillKo : 9/17/2019 10:48 am : link
In comment 14582523 jlukes said:
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In comment 14582507 Bramton1 said:


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For his farewell.



I fully expect that - get the start - get a few plays or a series and then have him removed mid-drive so he can get a standing ovation.


I doubt it. And I doubt Eli would want that to be honest.
I'd say Eli sticks around a game or two to see if the kid can take  
Batenhorst : 9/17/2019 10:49 am : link
the heat

Trade or release possibilities

Jets
Jacksonville
New Orleans
Denver
Pittsburg
New England (just because they are the ultimate Opportunists)
Miami

I don't think we can get much in a trade. Release is more likely.

I don't think the Giants will make any move unless Eli asks for his release
Its a no-trade clause, but of course Eli can waive it  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2019 10:58 am : link
I hope he moves on to Jax (or some other competitive team that needs a QB). I'd like to see him get one last shot
San Diego...  
Capt. Don : 9/17/2019 11:00 am : link
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Giants were never going to be very competitive this year  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/17/2019 11:02 am : link
Very outside shot at playoffs but not even a thought to going deep into the playoffs. So stop with the salary crap. It's his final year and he damn well earned it. That money WOULD NOT have made any difference to this team this year.

I was hoping he would have a decent year for his swan song and then retire at the end of the year. My prediction for the rest of the year is that unlike many other QBs that have said, "It's not my job to mentor xxxxxxx" (Big Ben, Favre, Flacco, etc), we will see Eli in Daniel's ear on the sideline for the rest of the year.

I really hope Eli sees the writing on the wall and calls it.

All class. 2 WELL DESERVED rings & SB MVPs!!! Hope to see him in the HoF as a retired NY Giant.
RE: RE: It's more likely they release him  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/17/2019 11:04 am : link
In comment 14582500 bigbluehoya said:
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In comment 14582466 Jay on the Island said:


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and let him choose his next destination.



they absolutely should not do this. if there are teams interested, they should work with Eli to get him to the one he'd most want to go to.

I believe at this point, his salary is fully guaranteed. If they trade him, they'll get relief for 14/16 of it and the acquiring team in a trade will pick up the remainder. I could be wrong about this, but if they can recoup ~$13-14M of cap that would roll into the future, they absolutely have to do it.

Team first.


Not a Cap person but you are correct I would agree. I was just saying let him go as that would be most respectful and easiest solution.
Actually, the Jets would be a natural choice  
Anakim : 9/17/2019 11:11 am : link
Eli wants to stay in the NJ area and the Jets need a QB/mentor for Darnold. They also have the cap to absorb his.


But I HIGHLY doubt we'd trade him to the Jets.
He's staying  
HoustonGiant : 9/17/2019 11:17 am : link
he has a wealth of knowledge for DJ, and he'll likely enjoy the money to stand on the sidelines. Once he accepts his fate, that is.
If Jones is injured and Eli has been traded what do you do?  
SterlingArcher : 9/17/2019 11:22 am : link
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RE: Actually, the Jets would be a natural choice  
Jim in Tampa : 9/17/2019 11:22 am : link
In comment 14582814 Anakim said:
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Eli wants to stay in the NJ area and the Jets need a QB/mentor for Darnold. They also have the cap to absorb his.


But I HIGHLY doubt we'd trade him to the Jets.

I think if a team was actually interested and willing to give up something (anything) in return AND Eli wanted to go, we trade him. But again, I just don't think he has any value at this point.
I'm trying to work through  
Dnew15 : 9/17/2019 11:29 am : link
the idea of trading Eli.
If I'm say the Jax Jags and I do have interest in Eli, wouldn't I have to make room under the cap to take on his contract?

OR - can I trade for him and then redo his deal and he would have to agree to it so he would fit under the cap prior to the trade commencing?

I don't think the Giants have the option to "eat" the money like they do in baseball.

Am I correct on this?

RE: If Jones is injured and Eli has been traded what do you do?  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/17/2019 11:38 am : link
In comment 14582855 SterlingArcher said:
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What do you mean what do you do? You continue to lose games. This team isn't good.
If he retires, does he still get paid?  
Rong5611 : 9/17/2019 11:38 am : link
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Eli doesn't have trade value.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/17/2019 11:40 am : link
I don't know how much it needs to be said.
RE: Eli doesn't have trade value.  
AndyMilligan : 9/17/2019 11:42 am : link
In comment 14582945 Zeke's Alibi said:
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I don't know how much it needs to be said.

correct
RE: Eli doesn't have trade value.  
Dnew15 : 9/17/2019 11:44 am : link
In comment 14582945 Zeke's Alibi said:
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I don't know how much it needs to be said.


Are you suggesting he has no value b/c he can't play - or b/c no one wants him at what they are going to have to pay him?

That's kind of what my question was.
Eli is still essential to the development of Jones.  
Karl Hungus : 9/17/2019 11:50 am : link
He's a pretty good mentor. Unless they plan on bringing him back as a coach next year, he's staying.
No team in this league  
Rflairr : 9/17/2019 12:28 pm : link
would start Eli, BUT the Giants
Dottino just raised this possibility on WFAN  
Bockman : 9/17/2019 12:28 pm : link
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RE: Eli is still essential to the development of Jones.  
Gregorio : 9/17/2019 12:32 pm : link
In comment 14582980 Karl Hungus said:
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He's a pretty good mentor. Unless they plan on bringing him back as a coach next year, he's staying.


I am wondering where this is coming from, the idea that Eli is a good mentor. He's good guy but I am not sure if mentoring DJ is his schtick.

If QBs keep going down and if Jones plays well  
DavidinBMNY : 9/17/2019 1:35 pm : link
This is realistic. Backups of starters are down already week 2 in the season. There are a number of Qbs out already. Brees, Big Ben, Simien, Darnold, Luck (not full season). It wouldn't cost a team very much to have Eli either. It's pure salary at this point and only paid game by game. It's ~$718K a game.

Eli won't want to go anywhere immediately, but if in a few games Jones is showing he's ready, and Eli can play somewhere else. Jones hasn't started a game. Very different circumstance, but when Gino started he got all of 1 game.



I for it would have to be 3rd round pick.  
rasbutant : 9/17/2019 1:46 pm : link
He will sign with someone next year and just because QB salaries are so high, he'll net a 3rd round comp pick.

Also, that is what KC got for Alex Smith (people will forget about Kendall Fuller) so this saves face for both Giants and Eli. And by this i mean if you trade Eli for a 7th round pick, its kind of a slap in the face, isn't it?
I keep reading this title as  
ron mexico : 9/17/2019 1:56 pm : link
Odell is traded
RE: RE: OMg, some of you have NO Football  
micky : 9/17/2019 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14582637 BillKo said:
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In comment 14582622 jvm52106 said:


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knowledge.. Eli has NO trade value.. So there are guys walking the street with better ability and possibilities than Eli? So if I am the Jets I am better off signing a street FA?

If I am the Colts and feel ELI will be a security blanket for a team that has SB talent at WR, Oline, Rb and defense?

Jags- I am fine with GM as my QB???

If the Giants got a 6th rd pick for Eli that would be a fine deal for us and the other team gets a guy who can still play with superior talent around him..



Who walking the street has better ability?? LOL


Joe montana???
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