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Jones Sunday prediction.

Thegratefulhead : 9/17/2019 10:30 am
Saquon Barkley will rush the ball 25 or more times for approximately 200 yards. Jones will have a good day but not great. The Giants will win a game. Everyone will say, "Well fuck, why didn't we do that with Eli Manning?

That is a really good fucking question.
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Jones ability to run  
jvm52106 : 9/17/2019 10:43 am : link
is a threat the defense has to take seriously.

The Giants will lean on Barkley still BUT, Jones will have his spots and the ability to move the pocket now, with a threat to run, will keep defenses honest.

Think of it this way:

Cam Newton, with a shoulder that is obviously fucked up, with accuracy worse than a weather man predicting rain 3 weeks out and with a foot that he just cannot push off on, threw for over 300 yards on this defense.

Daniel Jones will have a successful start against the Bucs.... I am so very psyched to see him play!
some of you people are deranged  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2019 10:43 am : link
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0-0 0yds  
crick n NC : 9/17/2019 10:45 am : link
Barkley gets 75 carries.
I think  
Les in TO : 9/17/2019 10:45 am : link
He’s going to make some great plays both with his arm and running but he’s going to turn the ball over too.
He'll be 30-30 for 700 yards and 5 touchdowns  
Bramton1 : 9/17/2019 10:52 am : link
plus he 5 times for 150 yards and 2 touchdowns.

Someone from Canton will present him with his gold jacket in the locker room during postgame.

.....

.....

I just want to see how comfortable he is behind center, and how his passes look.
Better than Eli's 1st game I hope  
Eli Wilson : 9/17/2019 10:52 am : link
Eli was 17/37, 162, 1TD, 2Ints

I expect Jones to do better.

What would be really nice is a win.
RE: Curious how many heads will explode if Jones starts  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 9/17/2019 10:52 am : link
In comment 14582558 Bramton1 said:
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checking down on Sunday.


with this WR crew, that might be all that's available.

At least Jones hits his check downs and gives his receivers a chance to get YAC. With ELi throws are at the feet, too high, behind....
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arcarsenal : 9/17/2019 10:54 am : link
My prediction... our defense is still terrible. Still won't get off the field, and we'll probably lose yet again!
I expect Jones will have a much harder time  
mfsd : 9/17/2019 10:54 am : link
against starting defenses that are game planning against us, and will take his lumps this weekend and this season.

And that’s exactly why this is the right move - so he can go through that and learn from it
I’m going with 17-24, 212 yards 2 TD  
Jay on the Island : 9/17/2019 10:54 am : link
5 rushes 27 yards
I think Jones will be far more successful in his first six games  
GeofromNJ : 9/17/2019 10:55 am : link
than Eli was in his first six games. Jones won't win all six, but he won't lose all six or look lost. Eli went 0-6 (before finally defeating Dallas) and looked like crap. Kurt Warner was sitting on the bench watching Eli, thinking, "I'm sitting for THIS?"
This will not change anything about Barkley  
Batenhorst : 9/17/2019 10:55 am : link
Jones will scour the field and do what is the right thing

Barkely is not a battering ram type RB

If you broadcast his runs he will not do well
It would be interesting to see  
NoPeanutz : 9/17/2019 10:55 am : link
how the line has moved this morning.
I expect him to struggle, like all rookie QB's  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2019 10:57 am : link
This signals that the season is a rebuild to me. He will gain experience which is a good thing, but this isn't preseason (as our record shows). I expect lots of Barkley and checkdowns, just like the first 2 games.
27-18 Giants  
Football Giants : 9/17/2019 10:59 am : link
Heavy Doses of Barkley and Gallman. Jones throws for 22/30 275 yds 2 tds
Hoping  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/17/2019 11:00 am : link
for improvement as the season progresses.

The bigger thing will be if the team can stay healthy. If they do there is enough for him to lead the team to points.


Jones throws  
Giantimistic : 9/17/2019 11:02 am : link
For 300 yards and wins but fumbles twice and that becomes the new argument every day about his fumbling.
Some  
AcidTest : 9/17/2019 11:02 am : link
flashed, but lots of struggles. The Bucs are sure to blitz him a lot.
This will change everything  
Eli2020 : 9/17/2019 11:03 am : link
The Bucs D can't just do Cover 2 like they would on Eli. Expect the Giants to be more proficient and efficient getting into the endzone. There will be much less 50 yard drives that stall at the 25 simply because of Jones ability to run.

Saquon runs for 150, 2 TDs

Jones gets a two scores.

We still lose because the defense is young and inexperienced.
RE: This will change everything  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2019 11:06 am : link
In comment 14582783 Eli2020 said:
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The Bucs D can't just do Cover 2 like they would on Eli. Expect the Giants to be more proficient and efficient getting into the endzone. There will be much less 50 yard drives that stall at the 25 simply because of Jones ability to run.

Saquon runs for 150, 2 TDs

Jones gets a two scores.

We still lose because the defense is young and inexperienced.


Of course the D can still play cover 2, why does this change that at all. In fact, odds are they will play more Cover 2 and try to disguise it to fool the rookie.
RE: I’m going with 17-24, 212 yards 2 TD  
Jim in Tampa : 9/17/2019 11:06 am : link
In comment 14582740 Jay on the Island said:
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5 rushes 27 yards

I think this is about right. I would add two turnovers however... 1 INT and 1 fumble.
RE: RE: I’m going with 17-24, 212 yards 2 TD  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2019 11:10 am : link
In comment 14582797 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 14582740 Jay on the Island said:


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5 rushes 27 yards


I think this is about right. I would add two turnovers however... 1 INT and 1 fumble.


If he does this it would be outstanding. However I worry that if he is hitting 70% completions it will be through checkdowns. Bucs will blitz a lot, and disguise coverages a lot to confuse him (like with any rookie). It takes time to figure these things out in a live game. People need to be patient
I think they will build a game plan around slants, crossing routes,  
SterlingArcher : 9/17/2019 11:13 am : link
roll outs, and an occasional shot deep. I believe they will do everything they can to ensure Jones having success in his first game. Now, the bigger issue is the defense, can they stop a mediocre, at best, Winston.
I don’t  
cokeduplt : 9/17/2019 11:14 am : link
Know what to expect I just hope he really is a franchise QB because if he isn’t we’re truly screwed.
RE: RE: This will change everything  
crick n NC : 9/17/2019 11:15 am : link
In comment 14582794 PatersonPlank said:
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In comment 14582783 Eli2020 said:


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The Bucs D can't just do Cover 2 like they would on Eli. Expect the Giants to be more proficient and efficient getting into the endzone. There will be much less 50 yard drives that stall at the 25 simply because of Jones ability to run.

Saquon runs for 150, 2 TDs

Jones gets a two scores.

We still lose because the defense is young and inexperienced.



Of course the D can still play cover 2, why does this change that at all. In fact, odds are they will play more Cover 2 and try to disguise it to fool the rookie.


Well for one Jones' ability to extend plays could put a lot of pressure on the mid to deep middle.
I predict...  
Chris in Philly : 9/17/2019 11:16 am : link
he throws 2 INTs and a bunch of mouth-breathing, unappreciative degenerates turn on him.
RE: 8 of 20, 0 tds 2 ints  
cokeduplt : 9/17/2019 11:16 am : link
In comment 14582643 Ron Johnson said:
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1 fumble


Optimistic huh?
RE: I predict...  
crick n NC : 9/17/2019 11:17 am : link
In comment 14582835 Chris in Philly said:
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he throws 2 INTs and a bunch of mouth-breathing, unappreciative degenerates turn on him.


Prophet
RE: Jones throws  
cokeduplt : 9/17/2019 11:19 am : link
In comment 14582774 Giantimistic said:
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For 300 yards and wins but fumbles twice and that becomes the new argument every day about his fumbling.



I can see that
RE: Shurmur  
Thegratefulhead : 9/17/2019 11:20 am : link
In comment 14582575 Nine-Tails said:
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May have wanted Jones all along, so he put the ball in Eli hands to show that he’s not a fit for his scheme. But then again it’s shurmur, lol
This feels true to me.
RE: RE: Shurmur  
Chris in Philly : 9/17/2019 11:22 am : link
In comment 14582847 Thegratefulhead said:
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In comment 14582575 Nine-Tails said:


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May have wanted Jones all along, so he put the ball in Eli hands to show that he’s not a fit for his scheme. But then again it’s shurmur, lol

This feels true to me.


When you start to go down the road of conspiracy theory, you may want to pull a u-turn...
RE: I predict...  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2019 11:23 am : link
In comment 14582835 Chris in Philly said:
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he throws 2 INTs and a bunch of mouth-breathing, unappreciative degenerates turn on him.


Nah. I already think he sucks, so there's no turning involved.
RE: RE: I predict...  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2019 11:24 am : link
In comment 14582839 crick n NC said:
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In comment 14582835 Chris in Philly said:


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he throws 2 INTs and a bunch of mouth-breathing, unappreciative degenerates turn on him.



Prophet


Yep, I give it one half before the game thread idiots start yelling for Hebert
RE: RE: I predict...  
Chris in Philly : 9/17/2019 11:28 am : link
In comment 14582863 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14582835 Chris in Philly said:


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he throws 2 INTs and a bunch of mouth-breathing, unappreciative degenerates turn on him.



Nah. I already think he sucks, so there's no turning involved.


As we all know, you are one of a kind. I meant all the rest, and you know it too...
Hebert?  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2019 11:28 am : link
Isn't Bobby a little long in the tooth to bring in now?
RE: I predict...  
jcn56 : 9/17/2019 11:30 am : link
In comment 14582835 Chris in Philly said:
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he throws 2 INTs and a bunch of mouth-breathing, unappreciative degenerates turn on him.


Unappreciative? Is there some appreciation Giants fans are supposed to have for Jones at this point?
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Gary JC : 9/17/2019 11:31 am : link
12 for 30, 136 yards, 3 INTS, 2 Fumbles
RE: RE: I predict...  
Chris in Philly : 9/17/2019 11:31 am : link
In comment 14582893 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14582835 Chris in Philly said:


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he throws 2 INTs and a bunch of mouth-breathing, unappreciative degenerates turn on him.



Unappreciative? Is there some appreciation Giants fans are supposed to have for Jones at this point?


I think you know what I was saying, and to whom I was referring...
RE: RE: RE: I predict...  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2019 11:32 am : link
In comment 14582881 Chris in Philly said:
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I meant all the rest, and you know it too...


I must protest. The mouthbreathing is just the inevitable result of all the damned ragweed lately.

Degenerate....well, I must plead guilty to that one.
RE: RE: RE: Shurmur  
Thegratefulhead : 9/17/2019 11:34 am : link
In comment 14582859 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 14582847 Thegratefulhead said:


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In comment 14582575 Nine-Tails said:


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May have wanted Jones all along, so he put the ball in Eli hands to show that he’s not a fit for his scheme. But then again it’s shurmur, lol

This feels true to me.



When you start to go down the road of conspiracy theory, you may want to pull a u-turn...
You are correct, but wildly speculative conspiracy theories are the soup of the day. I would not try to defend that position for a moment though. I said it feels true. If I thought it fact I would not have used the word feel. :) Things that feel true are often wrong.
RE: Hebert?  
PatersonPlank : 9/17/2019 11:35 am : link
In comment 14582885 Greg from LI said:
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Isn't Bobby a little long in the tooth to bring in now?


Ops, Herbert. Although I could have just as easily have said Tua or Lawrence
I expect a lot of play action  
nygiants16 : 9/17/2019 11:37 am : link
and roll outs to get jones in space and tey to get the backers to bite up..
RE: Shurmur  
MacGruber : 9/17/2019 11:43 am : link
In comment 14582575 Nine-Tails said:
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May have wanted Jones all along, so he put the ball in Eli hands to show that he’s not a fit for his scheme. But then again it’s shurmur, lol


I said this in another thread and got killed for it. If they run the ball through Saquon and look competent I think it'll be safe to say thats what happened.
Mediocre  
moespree : 9/17/2019 12:27 pm : link
But they will win on the back of Barkley.
I predict  
Steve in ATL : 9/17/2019 12:31 pm : link
a QB fumble.
RE: Jones can have a 0 qbr...  
Emlen'sGremlins : 9/17/2019 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14582582 penkap75 said:
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and I would still be exciting to see him in.
Just like Eli's ugly debut against the Eagles in 2004- it was ugly but its exciting to the new QB develop, warts and all.


You meant Falcons.
I predict  
JFIB : 9/17/2019 1:24 pm : link
A decent 12 of 20 for about 200 yards and at least 1 TD and 1 INT. I also predict a new energy on the field on both Offense and Defense. The same kind of enthusiasm we saw in the pre-season will carry over on Sunday.
Prediction !  
LeftHook : 9/17/2019 1:47 pm : link
Lots of Barkley running game and passing. Expecting Engram to have huge part in this offense from now on. Also some DJ. Keep our D off the damn field. Shurmur needs to keep Barkley in the game. Not on damn sidelines.
I expect more first downs  
justafan : 9/17/2019 4:54 pm : link
Jones will be able to extend a few plays which will result in a few more first downs. Which will lead to a few more opportunities on TBs side of the field. I expect us to score the most points we've scored this year, which isn't saying much, but its an improvement. However, these WRs still can't get any separation.
17-29  
bradshaw44 : 9/17/2019 5:17 pm : link
212 yds, 2 int, 2 TD (1 is rushing).

Does enough for us to have hope.
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