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This isn't your fathers NYG

EJJ : 9/17/2019 11:13 am
From what I've read on BBI a lot of us where praying for the move to Jones, but thinking Mara would block it.
The dark ages of the 70s loomed large in are memories.
The move makes total sense at this point and Mara, Tish allowed it.
Maybe just maybe Ownership, DG and Shurmor have a clue?
Appreciate the optimism  
V.I.G. : 9/17/2019 11:17 am : link
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DG has a huge clue  
djstat : 9/17/2019 11:20 am : link
BUT you cannot turn around a franchise in one year that was saddled with bad contracts (JPP, JJ, ELI) and bad attitudes (OV, Snacks) in one year. Takes time and patience.
I think the idea that Eli starting  
Section331 : 9/17/2019 11:23 am : link
was all on Mara is ridiculous. DG and Shurmur likely thought they would be at least competitive, and wanted a veteran QB in place in the event they were. I'm sure they had to run the idea by Mara, but that isn't unusual.
You've got to be kidding  
HomerJones45 : 9/17/2019 11:24 am : link
this team has all the hallmarks of the 70's Giants. Please.
RE: I think the idea that Eli starting  
BillKo : 9/17/2019 11:26 am : link
In comment 14582864 Section331 said:
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was all on Mara is ridiculous. DG and Shurmur likely thought they would be at least competitive, and wanted a veteran QB in place in the event they were. I'm sure they had to run the idea by Mara, but that isn't unusual.


Completely agree. It's just a talking point people like to use to try and bury the owner.
Shurmor?  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/17/2019 11:39 am : link
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But but but  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/17/2019 11:58 am : link
bbi told me Mara would force Shormur to play Manning all year.
RE: DG has a huge clue  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/17/2019 11:59 am : link
In comment 14582850 djstat said:
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BUT you cannot turn around a franchise in one year that was saddled with bad contracts (JPP, JJ, ELI) and bad attitudes (OV, Snacks) in one year. Takes time and patience.

bbi expects a rookie CB injured in preseason to play like Revis.

Everything was pointing to 2020 being the year.
RE: DG has a huge clue  
Randy_Lahey : 9/17/2019 12:01 pm : link
In comment 14582850 djstat said:
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BUT you cannot turn around a franchise in one year that was saddled with bad contracts (JPP, JJ, ELI) and bad attitudes (OV, Snacks) in one year. Takes time and patience.


Not fair to say OV had a bad attitude. He got banged up and didn't live up to his contract but I never read anything negative about his locker room influence.
I don't know where this "Mara would block it" thing came from.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/17/2019 12:21 pm : link
Mara didn't block McAdoo starting Geno Smith FFS. I'm sure he wants to be notified so he can handle the PR, but I don't believe that's how Mara operates. His awfulness comes from higher-level decisions than that.

I don't think McAdoo starting Smith over Eli is what got him fired. The whole season was a clusterfuck. The locker room was a mess, McAdoo was running a crummy offense that didn't fit the players he had, and the team stunk.
RE: RE: DG has a huge clue  
japanhead : 9/17/2019 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14583053 Randy_Lahey said:
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In comment 14582850 djstat said:


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BUT you cannot turn around a franchise in one year that was saddled with bad contracts (JPP, JJ, ELI) and bad attitudes (OV, Snacks) in one year. Takes time and patience.



Not fair to say OV had a bad attitude. He got banged up and didn't live up to his contract but I never read anything negative about his locker room influence.


not sure if there's something i missed with OV, but eric the other day said something like "i don't want olivier vernon near this team." not sure if he knows something we don't, or if it has to do with the kneeling during the anthem or some shit like that that serves as a proxy for "bad culture guy"
RE: I don't know where this  
jestersdead : 9/17/2019 12:48 pm : link
In comment 14583172 81_Great_Dane said:
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Mara didn't block McAdoo starting Geno Smith FFS. I'm sure he wants to be notified so he can handle the PR, but I don't believe that's how Mara operates. His awfulness comes from higher-level decisions than that.

I don't think McAdoo starting Smith over Eli is what got him fired. The whole season was a clusterfuck. The locker room was a mess, McAdoo was running a crummy offense that didn't fit the players he had, and the team stunk.


It comes from the people who love the term, "jints central" and click bait tweets.
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