Ernie Accorsi Comments on Eli Manning

reference? Ernie's slipping.

doesn't mention Bert Jones somehow I will be gravely disappointed.

In comment 14583153 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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reference? Ernie's slipping.

LOL

Thanks for having the balls to bring him here.

Worked out to the tune of 2 championships.

that Ernie was involved with Unitas

Unitas reference >> Bert Jones reference

Bert Jones.

A Johnny Unitas reference in everything and anything he says.

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Ernie does not disappoint.

In comment 14583174 HomerJones45 said:

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Bert Jones.

Ernie doesn't work in the shadows with Bert Jones. He usually says the man's name directly. He's not Voldemort.

In comment 14583159 Matt in SGS said:

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In comment 14583153 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: reference? Ernie's slipping. LOL

EC is right about Bert Jones.

and Accorsi's still there, flapping him gums

in terms of this type of thing happening, even to the greats like Montana and Unitas. So I understand why Ernie mentioned him.

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In comment 14583280 Anakim said:

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Nate knows where he is but it's top secret information.

He had a conviction on Manning and it paid off.

Big stones!

Eli.

And 15 years later he gave us Dave Gettleman.

Do they cancel each other out? ;)

the amount of abuse Accorsi takes on this site. He built a two time Super Bowl winner; Reese just took all of the credit.

For Ernie? Did I read that right? Is that perhaps why he pushed DG on the Giants?

Couldn't agree more. Ernie should be held in the same regard by Giant fans as George Young. They both built 2 time Super Bowl winners. Ernie actually had guts and the force of personality to ignore Wellington and trade for Eli.

Ernie drafted Tuck, Osi, Snee, Diehl, Webster, Jacobs, Bradshaw etc. signed O'Hara, Seubert (UDFA) Plax, Mckenzie and Pierce etc. as FA's.

I'd rate GY slightly above him for the 80's but Ernie is one of the most important Giants ever.

He could have drafted Roelisberger instead of drafting Rivers and then trading him along with the following year's 1st round pick for Manning. With Ben, I doubt the Giants have a sub .500 record and they would have had just as many SB appearances, if not more.

You think Roethlisberger would have done well in NY? At the time in 2004 I agreed with you. 15 years later I think the Giants made the right choice.

Do you think Roethlisberger has been surrounded with better talent since 2012 than Eli? If they changed teams in 2012 do you think the Giants would have had the Steelers record and the Steelers the Giants record? I do not.

Eli got old. He lost his magic at least 2 maybe even more years ago. But the Giants as an organization badly failed him with the GM, coaching (and that includes late career Tom Coughlin who lost his fastball much more than Eli did in his last three Giants years) and most importantly the talent around him.

Only drafted because Ernie thought he was Bert's grandson.

Reese did, along with Ross, Smith, Alford, Boss, DeOssie and Bradshaw. He later on got JPP (gutsy pick at the time), Nicks, Manningham and Cruz while drafting late in rounds. Ernie's stamp on SB46 isn't great (outside of Manning). Who was the head scout during the EA years????????????????

In comment 14583425 GeofromNJ said:

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He could have drafted Roelisberger instead of drafting Rivers and then trading him along with the following year's 1st round pick for Manning. With Ben, I doubt the Giants have a sub .500 record and they would have had just as many SB appearances, if not more.

That's a lot of assumptions.

In comment 14583543 BillKo said:

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In comment 14583425 GeofromNJ said: Quote: He could have drafted Roelisberger instead of drafting Rivers and then trading him along with the following year's 1st round pick for Manning. With Ben, I doubt the Giants have a sub .500 record and they would have had just as many SB appearances, if not more. That's a lot of assumptions.

Compare the Giants/Eli record vs. Steelers/Ben record since 2004. No assumption needed, IMO.

Getting him to NYC would have started the #MeTwo movement a decade and a half earlier.

In comment 14583656 GeofromNJ said:

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In comment 14583543 BillKo said: Quote: In comment 14583425 GeofromNJ said: Quote: He could have drafted Roelisberger instead of drafting Rivers and then trading him along with the following year's 1st round pick for Manning. With Ben, I doubt the Giants have a sub .500 record and they would have had just as many SB appearances, if not more. That's a lot of assumptions. Compare the Giants/Eli record vs. Steelers/Ben record since 2004. No assumption needed, IMO.

You don't think that maybe - just maybe - the offensive talent has been different for the two of them?

In comment 14583227 Matt in SGS said:

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In comment 14583174 HomerJones45 said: Quote: Bert Jones. Ernie doesn't work in the shadows with Bert Jones. He usually says the man's name directly. He's not Voldemort.

Maybe Ernie has learned to be more subtle

you Mr. Accorsi for the greatest QB in the history of this franchise.

Each team has won 2 Super Bowls. Pittsburgh has had by far the better roster and by far the better coaching. Your premiss is very flawed and we haven't even discussed what it would have been like to have a rapist playing QB for the Giants. Ben is very lucky he was in Pittsburgh. No way he gets away with it in NYC.

for the Colts when Unitas was traded. He had to deal with the PR end of it but it wasn't his decision to make the trade.

In comment 14583250 Greg from LI said:

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and Accorsi's still there, flapping him gums

Not that funny. If you are lucky you may live to that age.

Was a really good player. He kept getting hurt because he was tough and hung in there.

In comment 14583425 GeofromNJ said:

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He could have drafted Roelisberger instead of drafting Rivers and then trading him along with the following year's 1st round pick for Manning. With Ben, I doubt the Giants have a sub .500 record and they would have had just as many SB appearances, if not more.

Ben's also probably serving a life sentence on Rikers after he sexually assaulted Lord knows how many women if he's living in the NYC area.

when Coughlin got to town (I think they were a good combo) and he obviously made the ballsy move for Eli. "you can never have too many pass rushers" etc.

For a long time he neglected the OL but then he splurged on Snee + McKenzie. Osi and Tuck were good picks. Kiwanuka too before he got hurt and yanked back and forth between LB/DE. OL and DL were key to the first SB obviously and they weren't just his players, but areas that came to define his philosophy.