(let’s try this again)
“This move says nothing about Eli, it’s about developing Jones for the future.”
“Schurmur didn’t single out Eli yesterday, he said everybody needed to improve.”
Now says Shurmur is doing this because he feels he has to go keep his job and “not because it’s the right thing to do.”
Speculating Eli might be traded. Because Dotino doesn’t see the value of Eli sitting on bench and the team looking to 2020.
Joe asks shouldn’t have Giants let him go before the season so Eli could try to get another job.
Dotino says it looks like the Giants completely changed their philosophy after 2 games, this was a business decision not a football decision.
He's a shill and really nothing more.
I heard the end of it and he was confused. Seemed as a company man he didn’t know what position to take.
This is absolutely 100% a football decision. You can argue if it's a short term vs. longer term decision, but this is about making the 100% Giants a better football team in the long term, and likely the short term as well.
P-Dot did his typical back track on it. Dude is such a tool.
My guess:
Business - meaning DG and PS need an excuse for the shitty play
Football - Eli still better than DJ
But while both points may be true, Eli is no longer a top QB and has left a lot of plays on the field the last few seasons and more importantly, the first 2 games.
if we go 0-16 it certainly won't be Eli's fault now lol
When it became clear the defense isn't good enough to give us more than a handful of wins -- with Eli OR Jones -- they decided to give Jones a full season of live experience, preserve Eli's legacy here, and hope that Jones will be excellent by September 2020.
So true. He sounds like a good listen, but I often finding myself no more informed than before listening.
The first two sentences are accurate. Everything else is just dumb.
Ain't always easy being the messenger. He naturally looks as foolish as anyone once when the obviously shitty plan turns out to be shit.
He seems pretty harmless if you aren't depending on great wisdom to come cascading out of his mouth.
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and is pretty much wrong on every point he made here
The first two sentences are accurate. Everything else is just dumb.
The 1st sentence that this has nothing to do with Eli is BS. I dont believe that for a second. IF Eli was producing at a high level they would give him more rope to turn this around, i truly believe that. They are seeing on film what most giants fans see and combined with his declining play and them being high on jones decided it was time to make a move.
The second sentence wasn't him giving an opinion , he was just repeating what shurmur said yesterday.
Every other point here which is an opinion of his is garbage. Also, the fact that he is eli #1 fan makes it very hard for him to be an unbiased reporter
So high unemployment is due to a more virtuous population.
Weird.
Eh, most casual fans will checkout anyway unless DJ somehow sparks a fire in the team and wins enough to keep them competitive (unlikely with this D).
The 1st sentence that this has nothing to do with Eli is BS. I dont believe that for a second. IF Eli was producing at a high level they would give him more rope to turn this around, i truly believe that.
There is no "turning this around". The defense is non-professional right now. This isn't a playoff team. They don't even have the scent of possibly being a playoff team. They still lack talent in too many areas. It's about finally turning the page on that era, starting DJ's career, and evaluating everyone to see who moves forward with DJ.
Actually they would be paying ~$10 million as that is what is left of his salary this year. The bonuses have all been paid. But your point is well taken.
If DJ does well this year , PS will be sitting pretty.
It was really a confusing mess of an interview. One of the teams he mentioned Eli being traded to was the Saints. Um, that’s why they have Bridgewater, genius.
I hope they post the audio, it was a fun listen.
Let's face it, its alot of money to attend these games. I went to the home opener, it wasn't full. Lots of Bills fans in attendance too. Fans gave up their seats...to the home opener.
The "product" has sucked since the last Super Bowl.
Right now, many of their potential customers are spending their money elsewhere. Do you blame them? The team needs to get back to winning to earn more money from tickets, concessions, merchandise, etc. They need to make changes and re-build the "brand".
DJ signifies a fresh start..hopefully he's a franchise QB who can lead the Giants into the next era and another championship (s).
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This is absolutely 100% a football decision. You can argue if it's a short term vs. longer term decision, but this is about making the 100% Giants a better football team in the long term, and likely the short term as well.
He's tool who's upset that his guys(Eli and Webb) aren't living up to his predictions
That's dumb. If you're saying you're not going anywhere but to wherever they're holding the 202 draft, then it doesn't matter who the backup QB is.
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would have an interest in trading for Manning. Besides, the Giants won't do it. Eli is the ideal backup for Jones who could easily get injured. Tanney is not a guy I want behind center.
It was really a confusing mess of an interview. One of the teams he mentioned Eli being traded to was the Saints. Um, that’s why they have Bridgewater, genius.
I hope they post the audio, it was a fun listen.
Bridgwater, from every account I have heard, is terrible. Assuming that they would even want Eli, the main impediment might be that Brees will be back sooner or later this season.
The same Hanlon who makes sure that families of bereaved BBIers get flowers or who gets balls signed, etc?
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is the most ridiculous Giants employee - Dottino or Hanlon.
The same Hanlon who makes sure that families of bereaved BBIers get flowers or who gets balls signed, etc?
unfortunately his job involves slightly more than that.
Football minimally needs to be entertaining for me to watch it. When it's not, I don't need the aggravation and I can find better things to do with my time. And if I was a ticket holder, there's no way I'd pay to watch this shit show.
At 0-2, I was about to quit watching games again (and just record them) for yet another season. Now, with Jones in, I'll likely keep watching because it may be fun to watch his development even if the team keeps losing (which now remains even more likely).
So if the Giants can't field a competitive team, they better put something of interest on the field, or seats will be empty, and front office jobs will be lost.
That something -- the only something they have -- is the supposed next Franchise QB. If he struggles, he's supposed to as a rookie, and will be given some slack. If he wins some games, so much the better. It will provide a glimmer of hope for the post-Eli era.
And in that respect, it really doesn't have much to do with Eli. No matter how well he plays, Eli won't keep butts in seats if the team is losing due to, say, the total lack of defense. Even Barkley won't do that.
I took it to mean the same - not that Dottino is necessarily right, but I think that's what he meant.
Once the suckers ponied up the PSL money the Mara's owned them. I went to games for 25 years and gave up my tickets a long time ago. But there is no way in hell I would have ever signed up for a PSL. You have to be a complete idiot.
He's not the only one who's said this and it's based on Mara seeing a half empty stadium late Sunday and not wanting that to get worse. Jones playing woll at the very least bring people out to the games and keep them there.
David Diehl said something similar. It's not the the only reason but its part of it.
He gave very little legitimate info on this topic