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If Shurmer were let go, who would you bring in?

JFIB : 9/17/2019 1:38 pm
This has nothing to do with DJ taking over or if it would happen, but a lot of BBI is talking about showing Shurmer the door. Let's just say the end of the season sees management uninspired with the coaching and wants to make a change. Who would you like to see brought in. I'm thinking Chuck Pagano would be the hottest candidate around. Three playoff years in Indy and he has that Chicago Defense absolutely humming!
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What about Little Mac?  
Vanzetti : 9/17/2019 1:42 pm : link
Has Giants connections (sort of)

Beloved by the fans and media



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Danny Kanell : 9/17/2019 1:44 pm : link
A young, non-retread offensive guy like Kevin Stefanski.
Chuck Pagano was an awful head coach  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2019 1:44 pm : link
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A defensive coach...  
nzyme : 9/17/2019 1:46 pm : link
We've rarely had success with "Offensive Gurus".
RE: Chuck Pagano was an awful head coach  
Danny Kanell : 9/17/2019 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14583574 Greg from LI said:
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Dreadful
RE: A defensive coach...  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2019 1:49 pm : link
In comment 14583578 nzyme said:
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We've rarely had success with "Offensive Gurus".


Tom Coughlin was an offensive assistant. So was Paul Brown, Tom Landry, Bill Walsh, Joe Gibbs, Mike Shanahan....
I donít like Pagano at all  
Jay on the Island : 9/17/2019 1:49 pm : link
The candidates I find most intriguing
Eric Bieniemy OC Chiefs
Matt Rhule Baylor
Dan Campbell Saints
Bill Cowher  
micky : 9/17/2019 1:50 pm : link
Sorry had to do it 😂🤣
ok, I'll say it  
Dave : 9/17/2019 1:50 pm : link
Sexy Rexy!
but personally, I always like  
Dave : 9/17/2019 1:51 pm : link
Dan Campbell
Some names to consider  
Go Terps : 9/17/2019 1:51 pm : link
Matt Rhule
Lincoln Riley
Josh McDaniels
Jim Schwartz
Greg Roman
Don Martindale

But more critical than the hire is that the front office/coaching staff relationship needs to be reconsidered. The Giants are trapped in the past with the way they operate.
David Shaw  
Rflairr : 9/17/2019 1:52 pm : link
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What is it people like about Matt Rhule?  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2019 1:52 pm : link
Is it just because he was a Coughlin assistant? The guy is 38-40 as a head coach.

I'm always wary of college coaches, but I would be OK with rolling the dice on Lincoln Riley.
For first timers...  
Chris in Philly : 9/17/2019 1:53 pm : link
I would think about Matt Eberflus, Kris Richard, and Eric Bienemeny. For college guys, I would want to talk to Shaw and Riley. And I would have to talk to McDaniels. He is a lunatic, but he could certainly design an offense for DJ.
Smith  
BigBluesman : 9/17/2019 1:53 pm : link
Or Tomlin or someone with a similar name so BBI can spell the coach's name.
Shane Waldron  
bigbluehoya : 9/17/2019 1:53 pm : link
Mike Groh
Lincoln Riley
Gregg Roman
Matt Eberflus
RE: What is it people like about Matt Rhule?  
Chris in Philly : 9/17/2019 1:54 pm : link
In comment 14583608 Greg from LI said:
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Is it just because he was a Coughlin assistant? The guy is 38-40 as a head coach.

I'm always wary of college coaches, but I would be OK with rolling the dice on Lincoln Riley.


It's a little unfair to use record when he has coached in places like Temple. He actually built a program there that went from punchline to Bowl.
Josh McDaniels  
ArcadeSlumlord : 9/17/2019 1:54 pm : link
hmmm
McDaniels  
Go Terps : 9/17/2019 1:54 pm : link
I wonder how much he knew about Andrew Luck not being long for the game.
My guys  
Mike from SI : 9/17/2019 1:54 pm : link
are either Shaw or Jim Harbaugh.
Dan Campbell  
chiro56 : 9/17/2019 1:55 pm : link
Would be my pick. Appears to be a solid guy and good leader.
it's crazy how Mike Groh's built a solid coaching resume  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2019 1:56 pm : link
He was such a disaster as his father's OC at UVA 15 years ago. Totally in over his head. Have to give him a ton of credit for having the humility to go from an OC to a graduate assistant in order to have the opportunity to learn from the dark master, Nick Saban.
the main changes need to happen  
mdc1 : 9/17/2019 1:57 pm : link
at the top. Many good coaches will not come here based on the incompetence of the almost decade of poor football decisions and play. Why move to NY for 2 years and have to leave?
Someone whose going to work..  
Sean : 9/17/2019 1:58 pm : link
Canít get it wrong. Iím intrigued by McDaniels & I wonder if Patricia was the first choice after 2017.
RE: Dan Campbell  
Sean : 9/17/2019 1:58 pm : link
In comment 14583625 chiro56 said:
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Would be my pick. Appears to be a solid guy and good leader.


I like this too.
Chris, that may be true  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2019 1:59 pm : link
But Al Golden did a pretty solid job at Temple, too, before falling flat on his face in Miami. Personally, I'd like to see a little more from a guy before giving him the big job.
and I continue to say hell fuck no to Josh McDaniels  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2019 1:59 pm : link
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Rhule checks the box for prior NYG experience..  
Sean : 9/17/2019 1:59 pm : link
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Tell Belichick,  
Mr. Bungle : 9/17/2019 2:02 pm : link
"It's now or never, dude."

And bring him into the facility to tell him that in person, while he's standing there all glassy-eyed, awash in memories and nostalgia.
RE: Rhule checks the box for prior NYG experience..  
bigbluehoya : 9/17/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14583649 Sean said:
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I'm not down-voting Rhule, but that criteria needs to be eliminated.

There is a problem with the manner in which the major decisions in this franchise have been made. Clear as day.
McDaniels...  
Drewcon40 : 9/17/2019 2:06 pm : link
I had the name "Joe Girardi" all queued up but that was for another team I root for.


..I watched the latest "Do your job" video on YouTube about the Pats and have warmed up to him. I soured on him after the Colts thing. He;s likely Bill B's successor though.

Eric Bieniemy is another name I like
I'd interview Rod Marinelli  
Ira : 9/17/2019 2:06 pm : link
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RE: Smith  
Dinger : 9/17/2019 2:07 pm : link
In comment 14583615 BigBluesman said:
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Or Tomlin or someone with a similar name so BBI can spell the coach's name.


No, it would wind up being Smyth or Tomlen.....
If Tomlin is cut  
bradshaw44 : 9/17/2019 2:11 pm : link
He's my choice.
RE: Tell Belichick,  
Greg from LI : 9/17/2019 2:16 pm : link
In comment 14583661 Mr. Bungle said:
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"It's now or never, dude."

And bring him into the facility to tell him that in person, while he's standing there all glassy-eyed, awash in memories and nostalgia.


Almost certainly wouldn't work, but no reason not to try
Chuck Pagano???  
Section331 : 9/17/2019 2:17 pm : link
I just threw up in my mouth.
RE: RE: Tell Belichick,  
Mr. Bungle : 9/17/2019 2:18 pm : link
In comment 14583720 Greg from LI said:
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"It's now or never, dude."

And bring him into the facility to tell him that in person, while he's standing there all glassy-eyed, awash in memories and nostalgia.



Almost certainly wouldn't work, but no reason not to try

Well, they say that Belichick is driven by challenges more than any other coach is. Is there a bigger challenge than turning this franchise that he still loves around?

(That needs to be a part of the pitch, too.)
RE: What is it people like about Matt Rhule?  
Section331 : 9/17/2019 2:20 pm : link
In comment 14583608 Greg from LI said:
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Is it just because he was a Coughlin assistant? The guy is 38-40 as a head coach.

I'm always wary of college coaches, but I would be OK with rolling the dice on Lincoln Riley.


With a young QB, I'd think they'd want to go with an offensive-minded guy, and Riley is one college guy I would take a shot at.
Doubt Lincoln Riley leaves Oklahoma  
Oscar : 9/17/2019 2:22 pm : link
Money is as good or better in college now, frankly itís a better job than most NFL jobs, maybe than all NFL jobs. Once you have the recruit pipeline rolling itís not going to stop. A lot different than having to deal with the draft and free agents and the salary cap.

He can keep that job for 20 years if he wants.
Josh McDaniels  
k-five : 9/17/2019 2:24 pm : link
DJ is tailor-made for the Patriots offense.
Dan Campbell?  
BUgiantfan : 9/17/2019 2:25 pm : link
Is that the same Dan Campbell as our former tight end?
Way too  
mrvax : 9/17/2019 2:30 pm : link
early to consider that. It's important for PS to see what DJ does well and change his scheme to match that (if necessary).
RE: Dan Campbell?  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 9/17/2019 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14583749 BUgiantfan said:
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Is that the same Dan Campbell as our former tight end?


yes
My choice is still Bill Belichick.  
Affirmation : 9/17/2019 2:36 pm : link
As already mentioned, do everything to entice him back here. He is motivated by challenges and turning this franchise around with a promising QB and an incredible RB specifically should be challenging enough. He doesn't seem to be wanting to retire anytime soon so give him a 3-5 year contract and give him control. That means firing both Pat Schurmur and Dave Gettleman and giving all the authority they had to Bill. It's still unlikely to happen at this point but there is still a chance for sure.
It would be John Fox.  
Anakim : 9/17/2019 2:38 pm : link
We all know it.
Jim Harbaugh  
jeff57 : 9/17/2019 2:42 pm : link
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Belichick  
Go Terps : 9/17/2019 2:42 pm : link
I would trade our entire roster for Belichick. If Mara hasn't offered him $50M+ to come coach the Giants then he's done a poor job.
RE: Belichick  
HomerJones45 : 9/17/2019 2:48 pm : link
In comment 14583803 Go Terps said:
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I would trade our entire roster for Belichick. If Mara hasn't offered him $50M+ to come coach the Giants then he's done a poor job.
Forget it, not because it's a bad idea, but BB would want total control and no one is getting that without wrestling out of Jawn's cold, dead hand.
RE: RE: A defensive coach...  
steve in ky : 9/17/2019 2:50 pm : link
In comment 14583589 Greg from LI said:
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We've rarely had success with "Offensive Gurus".



Tom Coughlin was an offensive assistant. So was Paul Brown, Tom Landry, Bill Walsh, Joe Gibbs, Mike Shanahan....


Tome Landry was a defensive coach
RE: Dan Campbell?  
Jay on the Island : 9/17/2019 2:54 pm : link
In comment 14583749 BUgiantfan said:
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Is that the same Dan Campbell as our former tight end?

Yes, he was an interim HC for 3 games with Miami. He has been a hot name for the last few years. I like him a lot actually.
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