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Did Shurmur sandbag Barkley

GeneInCal : 9/17/2019 3:14 pm
to get Jones in sooner? If Saquon gets 25-30 carries on Sunday, your answer is yes.

I never felt Shurmur was an Eli fan.
He's  
cjac : 9/17/2019 3:17 pm : link
second in the league is rushing
Here comes a lot of RPO plays....  
No Where Man : 9/17/2019 3:21 pm : link
with two legitimate running threats....
I think you mean did he sandbag Eli  
giants#1 : 9/17/2019 3:22 pm : link
by not getting Barkley more touches.

And it's hard to know how many plays Eli audibled out of runs due to the D alignment.
RE: He's  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2019 3:22 pm : link
In comment 14583961 cjac said:
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second in the league is rushing


Where is he ranked in carries and receptions for RBs?
No...  
Ryan : 9/17/2019 3:22 pm : link
When your opponent scores 3 straight TDs in the late 1st/2nd Q in back to back weeks it shifts your play calling.
RE: Here comes a lot of RPO plays....  
cjac : 9/17/2019 3:23 pm : link
In comment 14583976 No Where Man said:
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with two legitimate running threats....


Read option, not RPO
RE: No...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/17/2019 3:23 pm : link
In comment 14583981 Ryan said:
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When your opponent scores 3 straight TDs in the late 1st/2nd Q in back to back weeks it shifts your play calling.


Except when you have a RB with a track record of going 59 yards on 1 play.
I kinda feel like this is all going according to plan  
mattlawson : 9/17/2019 3:24 pm : link
to be honest. the designed rollouts for Eli on short yardage was the smoking gun
I don't think so, they fell behind in both games  
JonC : 9/17/2019 3:24 pm : link
Even if he did, protecting Barkley now while the team blows is more important than trying to prop up Eli.
PS shouldn't have had to do that  
chuckydee9 : 9/17/2019 3:25 pm : link
he is the HC.. this is the kinda bullshit a HC has to do in a fucked up team that dictates to him that Eli stays.. You can't run a team like that.. you hire a competent coach and let him deal with players.. if in the long term the success isn't there then you blame him and fire him.. but the HC should be able to bench someone at will and without repercussions...

RE: He's  
weaverpsu : 9/17/2019 3:26 pm : link
In comment 14583961 cjac said:
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second in the league is rushing


Oh yeah? Where does he rank in carries?
RE: RE: He's  
cjac : 9/17/2019 3:29 pm : link
In comment 14583994 weaverpsu said:
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In comment 14583961 cjac said:


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second in the league is rushing



Oh yeah? Where does he rank in carries?


if you add how many times he's been targeted in the passing game its more than Dalvin Cook
and listen Weaverpsu  
cjac : 9/17/2019 3:30 pm : link
i agree he hasnt touched the ball enough

but to say Shurmur purposely sandbagged him is just not accurate. Shurmur needs to win games
Gene,  
Big Blue '56 : 9/17/2019 3:38 pm : link
you’re overthinking this, buddy
RE: Gene,  
GeneInCal : 9/17/2019 3:53 pm : link
In comment 14584026 Big Blue '56 said:
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you’re overthinking this, buddy


Maybe, but not out of the question.
There is nothing  
Gman11 : 9/17/2019 7:34 pm : link
more stupid than thinking a coach makes a decision just to spite a player, GM, owner or the fans.

I'm sure his thought process wasn't "I'm not giving Barkley the ball so I can lose the first two games and get Eli the hell out of here." That's just absurd and idiotic thinking.
RE: No...  
Eman11 : 9/17/2019 7:40 pm : link
In comment 14583981 Ryan said:
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When your opponent scores 3 straight TDs in the late 1st/2nd Q in back to back weeks it shifts your play calling.


See I don't get his line of thinking. Even at half it wasn't to the point of abandoning the run.

Throw in the fact had he committed to it more in the 1st half they might've kept the ball away from Buffalo and helped the D. Not to mention he was relying on our #'s 4-6 WR's in the passing game vs a very good DB group and pass rush team.

Seems to me it would've made more sense to figure out something with the run game and use our best weapon more than going away from him.
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arcarsenal : 9/17/2019 7:42 pm : link
Some of the theories you guys are putting together are really out there...
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