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Vacch Sources: Manning has no immediate plans to waive NTC

V.I.G. : 9/17/2019 9:39 pm
I guess it best that Manning camp put an end to that speculation
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Once he gets bored enough,  
section125 : 9/17/2019 9:47 pm : link
he may change his mind..but his family is in NJ, so why would he want to leave.
I really hope he just calls it quits  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/17/2019 9:47 pm : link
after this year. Yeah, I'm being selfish, but the thought of him in another uniform...ugh.
I wish he’d retire now  
exiled : 9/17/2019 9:53 pm : link
Seeing him sidelined all year will suck.
RE: I really hope he just calls it quits  
Sean : 9/17/2019 9:58 pm : link
In comment 14584998 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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after this year. Yeah, I'm being selfish, but the thought of him in another uniform...ugh.


Exactly this. I really hope he doesn’t play anywhere else. How brutal would it be to see him in that goofy Jaguar helmet?
He will be on the field again  
rocco8112 : 9/17/2019 9:58 pm : link


This is like a golden parachute year for Eli. Despite all the hits, he is healthy, not concussed, and can cash those big blue checks.
RE: He will be on the field again  
Azul Grande : 9/17/2019 10:02 pm : link
In comment 14585016 rocco8112 said:
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This is like a golden parachute year for Eli. Despite all the hits, he is healthy, not concussed, and can cash those big blue checks.


Let’s say Jones has a perfectly solid year, we’ve seen what we want to see out of him.... but are totally out of playoff hunt.... I wouldn’t mind seeing Eli get the week 17 start. Could pull a Kobe and drop 5 TDs while beating the Eagles in a farewell home game.
RE: I really hope he just calls it quits  
djm : 9/17/2019 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14584998 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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after this year. Yeah, I'm being selfish, but the thought of him in another uniform...ugh.


I might be able to deal with the titans uniform. I’d root for him to win.
If  
lax counsel : 9/17/2019 10:49 pm : link
I am eli, what is the point in playing somewhere else? He has more than enough money not only for his family, but for family generations to come. He has nothing left to prove in this league other than he is not “done.” He walked away without any major injuries. Why would you want to now spend a couple of months away from the family you’ve seen every day as a Giant?

When he retires and returns to the Giants fans, he is likely he given the loudest ovation any former Giant received. He can capitalize off his stardom in the league and in the biggest media market in the world if he chooses to. There’s nothing left for him to do in this league.
RE: If  
bradshaw44 : 9/17/2019 11:14 pm : link
In comment 14585162 lax counsel said:
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I am eli, what is the point in playing somewhere else? He has more than enough money not only for his family, but for family generations to come. He has nothing left to prove in this league other than he is not “done.” He walked away without any major injuries. Why would you want to now spend a couple of months away from the family you’ve seen every day as a Giant?

When he retires and returns to the Giants fans, he is likely he given the loudest ovation any former Giant received. He can capitalize off his stardom in the league and in the biggest media market in the world if he chooses to. There’s nothing left for him to do in this league.


Winning. Some players are in it for the thrill of victory. And pride.
Good ...  
morrison40 : 9/17/2019 11:18 pm : link
Don’t give Gettleman the oppty to ship him off to Siberia for a swap of 7th round picks ! Stay healthy , count his money and next year see if any viable opportunities at market rates appear. Otherwise retire with the dignity he has always had .
RE: If  
WillVAB : 9/18/2019 1:57 am : link
In comment 14585162 lax counsel said:
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I am eli, what is the point in playing somewhere else? He has more than enough money not only for his family, but for family generations to come. He has nothing left to prove in this league other than he is not “done.” He walked away without any major injuries. Why would you want to now spend a couple of months away from the family you’ve seen every day as a Giant?

When he retires and returns to the Giants fans, he is likely he given the loudest ovation any former Giant received. He can capitalize off his stardom in the league and in the biggest media market in the world if he chooses to. There’s nothing left for him to do in this league.


Winning and his legacy vs his peers. Maybe I’m wrong but there’s probably some internal competition with guys like Ben and Rivers.

There could be a decent market for all parties involved. Saints and Steelers get a chance to salvage their seasons with him. Same with the Jags. He goes to a winning ball club and resets his value in FA next year.

All depends on what his goals are. Maybe he’s fine riding off into the sunset with his resume as is. But if he wants to play a few more years he needs to waive the NTC or at least give the organization a list of clubs he’s willing to play with.
I'd love to see him on the Steelers  
montanagiant : 9/18/2019 2:03 am : link
Go out gunning Eli!
Perfect scenario  
Reale01 : 9/18/2019 3:18 am : link
Jones is the goods and leads us to the playoffs. He gets hurt (nothing long term) in last game. Manning steps back in and leads us to Superbowl win. Manning retires.

Jones steps back in in 2020 and doesn't miss another game for next 15 years.
RE: Perfect scenario  
Reale01 : 9/18/2019 3:19 am : link
In comment 14585327 Reale01 said:
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Jones is the goods and leads us to the playoffs. He gets hurt (nothing long term) in last game. Manning steps back in and leads us to Superbowl win. Manning retires.

Jones steps back in in 2020 and doesn't miss another game for next 15 years.


I am waiting for someone to say, "Well yeah that's OK, but who will the backup QB next year?"
I'm sorry but  
Leg of Theismann : 9/18/2019 3:45 am : link
It does seem pretty perfect that the same week Eli gets benched, we find out Roethlisberger is done for the season and Drew Brees is out for 6 weeks. Not to mention Darnold is out indefinitely with mono and Siemian broke his ankle last night. Oh and Nick Foles is also out for the season. ...

OK the Jets are not a contender this year, but the Jags and Steelers are in an 0-2 hole and were both supposed to be contenders this year. The Saints need to do their best to stay in the playoff hunt with Brees out. I'm not saying Eli has "it" anymore, but with teams around the league so thin at QB I would be surprised if not ONE team figures they might have a better shot with Eli than whoever their current backup is.

If we could trade him, to me it wouldn't be about the assets we get in the trade (maybe a team gives up a 6th rounder?), it's about the potential of cap savings. What would the cap savings be if we traded him right now?

I know, I know, Eli said he wouldn't waive the NTC... but if a team called him up I'm wondering if he could change his mind.
RE: Perfect scenario  
Leg of Theismann : 9/18/2019 3:50 am : link
In comment 14585327 Reale01 said:
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Jones is the goods and leads us to the playoffs. He gets hurt (nothing long term) in last game. Manning steps back in and leads us to Superbowl win. Manning retires.

Jones steps back in in 2020 and doesn't miss another game for next 15 years.


I do hate to think of Jones getting hurt being included in a "perfect" scenario, but I agree that would be pretty awesome. But really, if the injury is bad enough to keep him out for at least 5 weeks (4 postseason games + extra week before super bowl) it would have to be at least slightly "serious" if you think about it.
RE: I'm sorry but  
Diver_Down : 9/18/2019 6:55 am : link
In comment 14585332 Leg of Theismann said:
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If we could trade him, to me it wouldn't be about the assets we get in the trade (maybe a team gives up a 6th rounder?), it's about the potential of cap savings. What would the cap savings be if we traded him right now?
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Cap Implication Discussion
RE: I really hope he just calls it quits  
dpinzow : 9/18/2019 7:09 am : link
In comment 14584998 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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after this year. Yeah, I'm being selfish, but the thought of him in another uniform...ugh.


If Eli wants to play somewhere else next year, then all power to him. I have no problem seeing him with another team as long as it’s not in the division. Other all time great QBs played on other teams when they were at the end (Montana in KC, Unitas with the Chargers, Namath with the rams, Favre with the jets and Vikings, big bro Peyton with the Broncos, etc.)
The key word is "immediate"  
Rong5611 : 9/18/2019 7:15 am : link
Seems to me they are keeping their options open...
The problem that I have is keeping Eli around for 2 games  
dpinzow : 9/18/2019 7:17 am : link
when everyone knew we were going to move on and not letting him go so his cap dollars could be reinvested in the defense
I still think the best course of action  
Diver_Down : 9/18/2019 7:26 am : link
would be an outright release. Eli can choose his landing spot whether that means on another team or his couch. While a trade is possible, it is complicated with draft pick compensation, waiving a NTC, and salary cap implications. A straight trade - and the new team picks up his salary while we receive a credit of unpaid salary. But a team like N.O./Jax may only need him for a short term to hold the fort until Brees/Foles returns. They may not want to commit to the remaining $10M. So then perhaps the Giants eat some salary in exchange for a higher pick to make the trade more amenable to the receiving team. It just gets too complicated.

I also feel his outright release is in the best interest of the team and Eli as mentioned here
wow  
giantfan2000 : 9/18/2019 8:14 am : link
seriously you think that if Eli could go somewhere else he would stay here
I think Eli is saying this because NO OTHER TEAM wants him.

RE: I really hope he just calls it quits  
Milton : 9/18/2019 12:28 pm : link
In comment 14584998 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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after this year. Yeah, I'm being selfish, but the thought of him in another uniform...ugh.
Am I being selfish if I hope he signs with another team for a lot of money and nets the Giants a 3rd round comp pick in 2021?
I don't know about selfish Milton  
figgy2989 : 9/18/2019 12:30 pm : link
But you wanting to see Manning in another jersey because it might "net" us a 3rd round pick is a little disturbing.

The thought of Eli in any other jersey is weird. Hell, it was weird seeing Peyton in Orange.
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