Team needs a spark and a defense. I hope they trade Eli and he can finish out his career away from the suckass NY fans. Its on the tape but yeah put it on Eli. I agree team needs to move forward but stupid fans are now going to kill a GM that is trying to rebuild this chicken shit organization from the ground and it will take time. Jerry Reach left the franchise with headcases, terrible contract and no talent depth. but yeah its Eli lol. 6 yrs in a row he had no OL. 2 of those they had a decent D. He finally gets and OL and has no rcvrs. or D.. lol but its Eli. I wish DJ luck its going to be a rough ride until they rebuild this group at least he has a ok OL in front of him and he is going to need his wheels. msg to Eli go to another team.
... why it seemed many people penciled in Buffalo as a win. Their defense is very good.
And once again I am driven nuts by the fact that everyone blames Eli for all of the offensive woes. It's actually sickening.
That said, this is clearly less about Eli and more about waving the white flag based on what they see on the roster as a whole for this year. They are passing the torch early enough to see what the kid has, doing it against weaker defenses than we have seen so far for better confidence, and starting to season him (if he actually has "it"). I'm probably the biggest Eli supporter here but it's tough to argue against starting Jones if you are raising the white flag and admitting we still have a lot of work to do on the roster.
I was at the game, in the center of the endzone with a perfect view of the trajectory of the ball. It was absolutely catchable. The first reaction in our section was that EE short armed the catch attempt.
Ira, in today'S NFL, the quarterback has to be able to make plays regardless of the situation. No team is perfect. Eli hasn't been able to make plays for a solid 2+ seasons now. He doesn't look downfield to throw, and even his check downs are bad.
at every level.. Eli has a better OL, better RB.. Better TE.. heck may be even better WR over the first 2 games.. that Keenum has performed better than Eli so far this year..
Eli is near the bottom of the league.. He is worse than K Murray.. Brissett .. Gardner Minshew.. so yes his wr have missed some passes.. his OL has missed some blocks.. but remember this is the NFL and every body has WR that miss passes and OL that miss blocks..
He makes a good point about it not being just on Eli but.... Â
That doesn't make it the wrong move. There's no point in rolling Eli out there with a team that can't compete. The organization was moving on from Eli when they picked DJ. The lack of competitive ability in the roster means there's no reason to delay getting the new guy experience
a mediocre pass that could have been caught but could have been thrown better. that is not what this is about.
defenses have been able to easily scheme for the giants because they dont go deep and arent a threat if you get the QB out of the pocket. they bullrush upfield which puts additional pressure on the O-line... for quite some time.
its about getting Jones reps but also about seeing if having someone who might be able to pressure the defense more allows them to have more chances to make plays and have a more dynamic offense.
this is what they wanted to see in the debacle of 2017 as well... but they didnt have a backup worth putting in.
Hey Baldy...who has a better chance of turning the corner and running for yards when those receivers are covered? Jones or Eli?
So where are the other poor plays/decisions Eli made in the game? I guess Baldy doesn’t want to show those?
Yeah I am tired of this bull shit people who have an agenda and then select a few plays out of many and show only those.. Overall as I mentioned in the other post Eli has been worse than Keenum while having a better Offensive talent around him.. thats enough to be benched..
a mediocre pass that could have been caught but could have been thrown better. that is not what this is about.
defenses have been able to easily scheme for the giants because they dont go deep and arent a threat if you get the QB out of the pocket. they bullrush upfield which puts additional pressure on the O-line... for quite some time.
its about getting Jones reps but also about seeing if having someone who might be able to pressure the defense more allows them to have more chances to make plays and have a more dynamic offense.
this is what they wanted to see in the debacle of 2017 as well... but they didnt have a backup worth putting in.
Absolutely... This move wasn't made because Eli can't make the throws. He still can. He's become Charlie Checkdown ever since Gilbride left and the offense went West Coast.
Eli is no longer the solution, Daniel Jones may be. It's time to find that solution.
hits him in his hands but not catchable hahahahaha
go back and watch the replay, it was a shitty throw
I remember watching that replay over and over. He was throwing that ball over the outstretched hands of the DL. You can clearly see it from the camera shots behind him. If he threw it any lower that pass is blocked. That was as catchable as it was going to be without being blocked or tipped. And that absolutely was a catchable ball.
hits him in his hands but not catchable hahahahaha
go back and watch the replay, it was a shitty throw
obviously you didn't it got tipped at the line and it STILL hit him in the hands
you can sit here and defend Eli all you want. and i love him and i love everything he did for the franchise. But he's been awful for quite some time
i'm ready to move on, you do what you want to do
Posts like this is why there's divisiveness... The responder didn't question whether the change should have been made, they were questioning your statement that the pass wasn't catchable. It absolutely was. As Hitdog said, one pass doesn't mean the move shouldn't have been made, but you're wrong, EE should have caught that ball.
Baldy is against the move. I think he's telling fans that even Jones gets in there isn't much to work with in the passing game, something we all knew going into the season. Now jones' mobility will allow some more opportunities in the pass game.
he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
Again, you're making general statements. This thread is about the film review, not whether or not the change should be made. The change should be made because Daniel Jones offers more at this stage of his career and he's part of the solution. Eli can still throw, he just doesn't fit where this organization is heading.
He's not challenging teams with his legs and post-McAdoo, he hasn't really been challenging teams with his arm either. Jones will do better on both accounts. He'll probably continue to fumble the ball and make a bunch of turnovers as well, maybe a game killer or two. That's fine this year, he's not learning pocket awareness and ball security from the sideline. I'll take the highs and lows over the flatlining we've seen over the last 3+ seasons.
Hey Baldy...who has a better chance of turning the corner and running for yards when those receivers are covered? Jones or Eli?
So where are the other poor plays/decisions Eli made in the game? I guess Baldy doesn’t want to show those?
Yeah I am tired of this bull shit people who have an agenda and then select a few plays out of many and show only those.. Overall as I mentioned in the other post Eli has been worse than Keenum while having a better Offensive talent around him.. thats enough to be benched..
he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
OK lets talk about that. Since he won the Super Bowl they have not been able to field a quality team.. Admit it.. He has had less and less time in the pocket and up until Saquon had zero help in the backfield. Still has not TE that can block and has no rcvrs that can go and get open. Im not saying it isn't on him it is, he should have been more vocal about the shitshow they created. Look at the stats on int tipped and dropped passes and time from snap to throw. its hard to go down field when he has no time. go watch the past years tapes of the putrid OL. he had less than half a second before someone was in his face. That's what Gettleman saw and over paid for the LT he needed too do it. He finally has an OL that can give him a little time and no one is getting open. He got them back in the game the D cant hold.. they cant get off the field same story for 3 plus years now -Cant Cover the middle of the fucking Field!! for 5 yrs TE running lose because Reach didn't want to draft a LBr haha but yeah Eli sux.. Giant fans are like retail investors -Stupid
he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
OK lets talk about that. Since he won the Super Bowl they have not been able to field a quality team.. Admit it.. He has had less and less time in the pocket and up until Saquon had zero help in the backfield. Still has not TE that can block and has no rcvrs that can go and get open. Im not saying it isn't on him it is, he should have been more vocal about the shitshow they created. Look at the stats on int tipped and dropped passes and time from snap to throw. its hard to go down field when he has no time. go watch the past years tapes of the putrid OL. he had less than half a second before someone was in his face. That's what Gettleman saw and over paid for the LT he needed too do it. He finally has an OL that can give him a little time and no one is getting open. He got them back in the game the D cant hold.. they cant get off the field same story for 3 plus years now -Cant Cover the middle of the fucking Field!! for 5 yrs TE running lose because Reach didn't want to draft a LBr haha but yeah Eli sux.. Giant fans are like retail investors -Stupid
So we are reduced to name calling.
the only person who is "stupid," are the ones that cant see that Eli has not been a good QB for some time now.
tried to run Coughlin out of town while he was rebuilding this team into a monster. They pulled the same shit with the rug. Ohh Accorsi blew it with his trade for ELi remember that? Meanwhile He and Coughlin did build it and then a dumbass WR who was very immature put a bullet into his leg! They got that ring back and went downhill after that -changing the makeup of the team along the way.
Now here we are. We have a GM that is pretty good evaluator of talent. Let him do his job. The whiner fans need to stfu and let the man do his work then bitch all you want but wait for now. You cant compare the Giants to Dallas or Philly they actually had successful drafts the last 6 yrs! Go look at their rosters. Buy low sell high
a mediocre pass that could have been caught but could have been thrown better. that is not what this is about.
defenses have been able to easily scheme for the giants because they dont go deep and arent a threat if you get the QB out of the pocket. they bullrush upfield which puts additional pressure on the O-line... for quite some time.
its about getting Jones reps but also about seeing if having someone who might be able to pressure the defense more allows them to have more chances to make plays and have a more dynamic offense.
this is what they wanted to see in the debacle of 2017 as well... but they didnt have a backup worth putting in.
about Norman -wasn't worth the money. Cam was not a championship QB but was good for the gate. He knew his LB needed to be replaced but the dumbass owner was besties.
Look now he was right about Saquaon, he looks like he was right about drafting DJ at 6 because teams were going to take him.. it was a tough choice I wanted the Lbr too. But he made a decision and stuck with it.. that's what he is paid for. Now give him time to rebuild the D and add depth in 2 yrs if we aren't kicking ass than we can bitch.
Hey Baldy...who has a better chance of turning the corner and running for yards when those receivers are covered? Jones or Eli?
So where are the other poor plays/decisions Eli made in the game? I guess Baldy doesn’t want to show those?
Yeah I am tired of this bull shit people who have an agenda and then select a few plays out of many and show only those.. Overall as I mentioned in the other post Eli has been worse than Keenum while having a better Offensive talent around him.. thats enough to be benched..
So Baldy has an agenda but you don't...???
Talk about lack of self awareness...
Whatever.. regardless of my agenda.. Baldy still didn't prove shit in that video.. Going back to my points when you are worse than some of the worst starting QB in the league and you have better overall talent around you then them..
RE: Case Keenum who has less talent around him than Eli Â
at every level.. Eli has a better OL, better RB.. Better TE.. heck may be even better WR over the first 2 games.. that Keenum has performed better than Eli so far this year..
Eli is near the bottom of the league.. He is worse than K Murray.. Brissett .. Gardner Minshew.. so yes his wr have missed some passes.. his OL has missed some blocks.. but remember this is the NFL and every body has WR that miss passes and OL that miss blocks..
Did Keenum play against 2 of the best defenses?
How many registered in 2019 dupes do we have to endure? Â
at every level.. Eli has a better OL, better RB.. Better TE.. heck may be even better WR over the first 2 games.. that Keenum has performed better than Eli so far this year..
Eli is near the bottom of the league.. He is worse than K Murray.. Brissett .. Gardner Minshew.. so yes his wr have missed some passes.. his OL has missed some blocks.. but remember this is the NFL and every body has WR that miss passes and OL that miss blocks..
Did Keenum play against 2 of the best defenses?
He played the same cowboys we Did and then he played the eagles.. so you tell be who played better..
he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
Love this stat. How many quarterbacks played anywhere near as many games? He has more picks than Mahomes. No shit. Mahomes is in his second year. ESPN is trash for putting this stat out there.
The team stinks and Eli is not coming back next season. Why not see what Jones can do?
This. For fuck's sake, since 2017 people are stuck on 'everyone's blaming Eli for everything'.
It's not that. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together doesn't think this move is trying to blame Eli or to see if Jones can produce a spark to catapult the team into the playoffs. Eli's not capable of carrying this team anywhere, and Jones needs the experience. It's as simple as that.
Manning has been playing QB for Giants for 15 years. We are on the eve of putting in the heir apparent and hopefully determine if there is a decent future in sight.
And yet your still entrenching yourselves about whether ONE incomplete pass was Eli's fault or the receiver.
classic...
I don't single Eli out for blame, and I'm not a big Jones believer Â
and even I am fine with the switch. Whatever else you can say about Eli in 2019, one thing is crystal clear. He's not winning games for the Giants. This team is going nowhere. He's 37 years old. They took a QB with the sixth overall pick in the draft, and they didn't do it to have him sit for an extended period of time. They have got to find out as soon as possible whether or not Daniel Jones can be an effective NFL quarterback.
RE: RE: RE: Case Keenum who has less talent around him than Eli Â
at every level.. Eli has a better OL, better RB.. Better TE.. heck may be even better WR over the first 2 games.. that Keenum has performed better than Eli so far this year..
Eli is near the bottom of the league.. He is worse than K Murray.. Brissett .. Gardner Minshew.. so yes his wr have missed some passes.. his OL has missed some blocks.. but remember this is the NFL and every body has WR that miss passes and OL that miss blocks..
Did Keenum play against 2 of the best defenses?
He played the same cowboys we Did and then he played the eagles.. so you tell be who played better..
Ok fair enough. The Cowboys scored 3 consecutive TDs and the game was over. He played the Bills with scrubs as WR's. If Eli played against Tampa and looked bad and lost, I'd be ok to make move. But I think we would have won so that would have postponed the change further. That's all I'm saying. I think the kid could use more time to learn. I wish him well.
he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
Love this stat. How many quarterbacks played anywhere near as many games? He has more picks than Mahomes. No shit. Mahomes is in his second year. ESPN is trash for putting this stat out there.
Big Ben, Brady, Brees, Rivers
you're comparing him to Mahomes? Look at the QBs who have started all those seasons.
he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
Love this stat. How many quarterbacks played anywhere near as many games? He has more picks than Mahomes. No shit. Mahomes is in his second year. ESPN is trash for putting this stat out there.
Big Ben, Brady, Brees, Rivers
you're comparing him to Mahomes? Look at the QBs who have started all those seasons.
Newton, Dalton
cmon...
I'm not comparing him to Mahomes, they are. That's the point. It's a stupid comparison. More than half the current starters didn't play those years.
Baldinger should really be ashamed to have put that Â
video together. It's on the level of Soviet style propaganda. Choosing a misleading angle off the first throw (you can't see how high he throw actually was from the overhead angle) and picking out a couple of plays where his teammates let him down. Eli's protection was pretty good most of the day, but of course Baldy highlights two plays where it broke down to make it seem like Eli had no chance all day. That's just plain bullshit propaganda.
You could just as easily put together a tape of showing 3 of Eli's worst plays to say he's done.
You could literally make this type of video for every QB in the league to say it's impossible for them to succeed....cause guess what, not ever play in the NFL goes perfectly according to plan.
I like Baldy's videos but he's always had a strong pro-Eli bias, I don't think he's once made a video showing that Eli played poorly. He really embarrassed himself by putting this one together though.
that was not a catchable ball
that was not a catchable ball
hits him in his hands but not catchable hahahahaha
At this point in his career, Manning can't recover.
Let's see how Jones does with the offense. By all accounts Manning should be doing better at this stage so let's just see how it plays out.
And once again I am driven nuts by the fact that everyone blames Eli for all of the offensive woes. It's actually sickening.
That said, this is clearly less about Eli and more about waving the white flag based on what they see on the roster as a whole for this year. They are passing the torch early enough to see what the kid has, doing it against weaker defenses than we have seen so far for better confidence, and starting to season him (if he actually has "it"). I'm probably the biggest Eli supporter here but it's tough to argue against starting Jones if you are raising the white flag and admitting we still have a lot of work to do on the roster.
that was not a catchable ball
I was at the game, in the center of the endzone with a perfect view of the trajectory of the ball. It was absolutely catchable. The first reaction in our section was that EE short armed the catch attempt.
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that was not a catchable ball
hits him in his hands but not catchable hahahahaha
go back and watch the replay, it was a shitty throw
Gee, that’s some sample size by Baldinger.
Hey Baldy...who has a better chance of turning the corner and running for yards when those receivers are covered? Jones or Eli?
So where are the other poor plays/decisions Eli made in the game? I guess Baldy doesn’t want to show those?
Eli - Passer rating 78.7.. QBR - 30..
Keenum - Passer rating 111.2 ... QBR - 68.7..
Eli is near the bottom of the league.. He is worse than K Murray.. Brissett .. Gardner Minshew.. so yes his wr have missed some passes.. his OL has missed some blocks.. but remember this is the NFL and every body has WR that miss passes and OL that miss blocks..
defenses have been able to easily scheme for the giants because they dont go deep and arent a threat if you get the QB out of the pocket. they bullrush upfield which puts additional pressure on the O-line... for quite some time.
its about getting Jones reps but also about seeing if having someone who might be able to pressure the defense more allows them to have more chances to make plays and have a more dynamic offense.
this is what they wanted to see in the debacle of 2017 as well... but they didnt have a backup worth putting in.
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that was not a catchable ball
hits him in his hands but not catchable hahahahaha
go back and watch the replay, it was a shitty throw
obviously you didn't it got tipped at the line and it STILL hit him in the hands
Gee, that’s some sample size by Baldinger.
Hey Baldy...who has a better chance of turning the corner and running for yards when those receivers are covered? Jones or Eli?
So where are the other poor plays/decisions Eli made in the game? I guess Baldy doesn’t want to show those?
yes, yes it was.
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of that throw to Engram
that was not a catchable ball
hits him in his hands but not catchable hahahahaha
go back and watch the replay, it was a shitty throw
obviously you didn't it got tipped at the line and it STILL hit him in the hands
you can sit here and defend Eli all you want. and i love him and i love everything he did for the franchise. But he's been awful for quite some time
i'm ready to move on, you do what you want to do
Gee, that’s some sample size by Baldinger.
Hey Baldy...who has a better chance of turning the corner and running for yards when those receivers are covered? Jones or Eli?
So where are the other poor plays/decisions Eli made in the game? I guess Baldy doesn’t want to show those?
Yeah I am tired of this bull shit people who have an agenda and then select a few plays out of many and show only those.. Overall as I mentioned in the other post Eli has been worse than Keenum while having a better Offensive talent around him.. thats enough to be benched..
defenses have been able to easily scheme for the giants because they dont go deep and arent a threat if you get the QB out of the pocket. they bullrush upfield which puts additional pressure on the O-line... for quite some time.
its about getting Jones reps but also about seeing if having someone who might be able to pressure the defense more allows them to have more chances to make plays and have a more dynamic offense.
this is what they wanted to see in the debacle of 2017 as well... but they didnt have a backup worth putting in.
Absolutely... This move wasn't made because Eli can't make the throws. He still can. He's become Charlie Checkdown ever since Gilbride left and the offense went West Coast.
Eli is no longer the solution, Daniel Jones may be. It's time to find that solution.
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that was not a catchable ball
hits him in his hands but not catchable hahahahaha
go back and watch the replay, it was a shitty throw
I remember watching that replay over and over. He was throwing that ball over the outstretched hands of the DL. You can clearly see it from the camera shots behind him. If he threw it any lower that pass is blocked. That was as catchable as it was going to be without being blocked or tipped. And that absolutely was a catchable ball.
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of that throw to Engram
that was not a catchable ball
hits him in his hands but not catchable hahahahaha
go back and watch the replay, it was a shitty throw
obviously you didn't it got tipped at the line and it STILL hit him in the hands
you can sit here and defend Eli all you want. and i love him and i love everything he did for the franchise. But he's been awful for quite some time
i'm ready to move on, you do what you want to do
Posts like this is why there's divisiveness... The responder didn't question whether the change should have been made, they were questioning your statement that the pass wasn't catchable. It absolutely was. As Hitdog said, one pass doesn't mean the move shouldn't have been made, but you're wrong, EE should have caught that ball.
he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
Again, you're making general statements. This thread is about the film review, not whether or not the change should be made. The change should be made because Daniel Jones offers more at this stage of his career and he's part of the solution. Eli can still throw, he just doesn't fit where this organization is heading.
he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
Okay but lets be fair. If the loses are all on Eli then all future loses are on DJ.
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Gee, that’s some sample size by Baldinger.
Hey Baldy...who has a better chance of turning the corner and running for yards when those receivers are covered? Jones or Eli?
So where are the other poor plays/decisions Eli made in the game? I guess Baldy doesn’t want to show those?
Yeah I am tired of this bull shit people who have an agenda and then select a few plays out of many and show only those.. Overall as I mentioned in the other post Eli has been worse than Keenum while having a better Offensive talent around him.. thats enough to be benched..
So Baldy has an agenda but you don't...???
Talk about lack of self awareness...
he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
OK lets talk about that. Since he won the Super Bowl they have not been able to field a quality team.. Admit it.. He has had less and less time in the pocket and up until Saquon had zero help in the backfield. Still has not TE that can block and has no rcvrs that can go and get open. Im not saying it isn't on him it is, he should have been more vocal about the shitshow they created. Look at the stats on int tipped and dropped passes and time from snap to throw. its hard to go down field when he has no time. go watch the past years tapes of the putrid OL. he had less than half a second before someone was in his face. That's what Gettleman saw and over paid for the LT he needed too do it. He finally has an OL that can give him a little time and no one is getting open. He got them back in the game the D cant hold.. they cant get off the field same story for 3 plus years now -Cant Cover the middle of the fucking Field!! for 5 yrs TE running lose because Reach didn't want to draft a LBr haha but yeah Eli sux.. Giant fans are like retail investors -Stupid
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he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
OK lets talk about that. Since he won the Super Bowl they have not been able to field a quality team.. Admit it.. He has had less and less time in the pocket and up until Saquon had zero help in the backfield. Still has not TE that can block and has no rcvrs that can go and get open. Im not saying it isn't on him it is, he should have been more vocal about the shitshow they created. Look at the stats on int tipped and dropped passes and time from snap to throw. its hard to go down field when he has no time. go watch the past years tapes of the putrid OL. he had less than half a second before someone was in his face. That's what Gettleman saw and over paid for the LT he needed too do it. He finally has an OL that can give him a little time and no one is getting open. He got them back in the game the D cant hold.. they cant get off the field same story for 3 plus years now -Cant Cover the middle of the fucking Field!! for 5 yrs TE running lose because Reach didn't want to draft a LBr haha but yeah Eli sux.. Giant fans are like retail investors -Stupid
So we are reduced to name calling.
the only person who is "stupid," are the ones that cant see that Eli has not been a good QB for some time now.
So call me anything you want
Now here we are. We have a GM that is pretty good evaluator of talent. Let him do his job. The whiner fans need to stfu and let the man do his work then bitch all you want but wait for now. You cant compare the Giants to Dallas or Philly they actually had successful drafts the last 6 yrs! Go look at their rosters. Buy low sell high
defenses have been able to easily scheme for the giants because they dont go deep and arent a threat if you get the QB out of the pocket. they bullrush upfield which puts additional pressure on the O-line... for quite some time.
its about getting Jones reps but also about seeing if having someone who might be able to pressure the defense more allows them to have more chances to make plays and have a more dynamic offense.
this is what they wanted to see in the debacle of 2017 as well... but they didnt have a backup worth putting in.
Nailed it.
Look now he was right about Saquaon, he looks like he was right about drafting DJ at 6 because teams were going to take him.. it was a tough choice I wanted the Lbr too. But he made a decision and stuck with it.. that's what he is paid for. Now give him time to rebuild the D and add depth in 2 yrs if we aren't kicking ass than we can bitch.
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to Engram tipped by 98 at the LOS?
Gee, that’s some sample size by Baldinger.
Hey Baldy...who has a better chance of turning the corner and running for yards when those receivers are covered? Jones or Eli?
So where are the other poor plays/decisions Eli made in the game? I guess Baldy doesn’t want to show those?
Yeah I am tired of this bull shit people who have an agenda and then select a few plays out of many and show only those.. Overall as I mentioned in the other post Eli has been worse than Keenum while having a better Offensive talent around him.. thats enough to be benched..
So Baldy has an agenda but you don't...???
Talk about lack of self awareness...
Whatever.. regardless of my agenda.. Baldy still didn't prove shit in that video.. Going back to my points when you are worse than some of the worst starting QB in the league and you have better overall talent around you then them..
Eli - Passer rating 78.7.. QBR - 30..
Keenum - Passer rating 111.2 ... QBR - 68.7..
Eli is near the bottom of the league.. He is worse than K Murray.. Brissett .. Gardner Minshew.. so yes his wr have missed some passes.. his OL has missed some blocks.. but remember this is the NFL and every body has WR that miss passes and OL that miss blocks..
Did Keenum play against 2 of the best defenses?
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at every level.. Eli has a better OL, better RB.. Better TE.. heck may be even better WR over the first 2 games.. that Keenum has performed better than Eli so far this year..
Eli - Passer rating 78.7.. QBR - 30..
Keenum - Passer rating 111.2 ... QBR - 68.7..
Eli is near the bottom of the league.. He is worse than K Murray.. Brissett .. Gardner Minshew.. so yes his wr have missed some passes.. his OL has missed some blocks.. but remember this is the NFL and every body has WR that miss passes and OL that miss blocks..
Did Keenum play against 2 of the best defenses?
He played the same cowboys we Did and then he played the eagles.. so you tell be who played better..
he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
Love this stat. How many quarterbacks played anywhere near as many games? He has more picks than Mahomes. No shit. Mahomes is in his second year. ESPN is trash for putting this stat out there.
This. For fuck's sake, since 2017 people are stuck on 'everyone's blaming Eli for everything'.
It's not that. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together doesn't think this move is trying to blame Eli or to see if Jones can produce a spark to catapult the team into the playoffs. Eli's not capable of carrying this team anywhere, and Jones needs the experience. It's as simple as that.
And yet your still entrenching yourselves about whether ONE incomplete pass was Eli's fault or the receiver.
classic...
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at every level.. Eli has a better OL, better RB.. Better TE.. heck may be even better WR over the first 2 games.. that Keenum has performed better than Eli so far this year..
Eli - Passer rating 78.7.. QBR - 30..
Keenum - Passer rating 111.2 ... QBR - 68.7..
Eli is near the bottom of the league.. He is worse than K Murray.. Brissett .. Gardner Minshew.. so yes his wr have missed some passes.. his OL has missed some blocks.. but remember this is the NFL and every body has WR that miss passes and OL that miss blocks..
Did Keenum play against 2 of the best defenses?
He played the same cowboys we Did and then he played the eagles.. so you tell be who played better..
Ok fair enough. The Cowboys scored 3 consecutive TDs and the game was over. He played the Bills with scrubs as WR's. If Eli played against Tampa and looked bad and lost, I'd be ok to make move. But I think we would have won so that would have postponed the change further. That's all I'm saying. I think the kid could use more time to learn. I wish him well.
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lets talk about Eli since SB 46
he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
Love this stat. How many quarterbacks played anywhere near as many games? He has more picks than Mahomes. No shit. Mahomes is in his second year. ESPN is trash for putting this stat out there.
Big Ben, Brady, Brees, Rivers
you're comparing him to Mahomes? Look at the QBs who have started all those seasons.
Newton, Dalton
cmon...
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lets talk about Eli since SB 46
he has more interceptions and losses than any other QB
that should be enough right there
i'm shocked that anyone who is a NYG fan wants to see him go out there and lose every week.
Love this stat. How many quarterbacks played anywhere near as many games? He has more picks than Mahomes. No shit. Mahomes is in his second year. ESPN is trash for putting this stat out there.
Big Ben, Brady, Brees, Rivers
you're comparing him to Mahomes? Look at the QBs who have started all those seasons.
Newton, Dalton
cmon...
I'm not comparing him to Mahomes, they are. That's the point. It's a stupid comparison. More than half the current starters didn't play those years.
You could just as easily put together a tape of showing 3 of Eli's worst plays to say he's done.
You could literally make this type of video for every QB in the league to say it's impossible for them to succeed....cause guess what, not ever play in the NFL goes perfectly according to plan.
I like Baldy's videos but he's always had a strong pro-Eli bias, I don't think he's once made a video showing that Eli played poorly. He really embarrassed himself by putting this one together though.