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Will the switch to Jones spark a win?

EJJ : 9/18/2019 12:46 pm
A BBI poll whats your opinion Do we get a win this week?
Stranger things have happened lol
My gut feeling is yes  
JerryNicklebag : 9/18/2019 12:47 pm : link
My gut the last 2 weeks was that we would lose.

I do think this somehow kicks the rest of the team in the ass and they come to play for the new kid in town.

Go Giants!
If the kids on D finally make strides in Bettcher’s  
Big Blue '56 : 9/18/2019 12:48 pm : link
system despite no real pass rush at present, then yes..
In case they do  
NoGainDayne : 9/18/2019 12:48 pm : link
please make sure someone is watching you for stroke symptoms. Or spontaneous combustion. You’ve really got your atoms stirred up about this and I’m concerned
Giants are 6.5 point underdogs  
armstead98 : 9/18/2019 12:48 pm : link
A win is very unlikely.

That said, if Shep, Lattimer and Slayton all play, who knows.

The defense needs to get their shit together but it's not like Jameis is Tom Brady.
I say yes  
jvm52106 : 9/18/2019 12:48 pm : link
and for a number of reasons.

#1- this is a young team all around and they have their young leader on the field. The energy alone should be a huge help. Plus, I re-watched the Bills game and there were a lot places things could have swung our way.

The defense has to help but, the Giants have to learn to keep the gas pedal down and once you score, you get the ball back and attack again. I think youthful energy can play a role here.
RE: Giants are 6.5 point underdogs  
jvm52106 : 9/18/2019 12:49 pm : link
In comment 14586190 armstead98 said:
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A win is very unlikely.

That said, if Shep, Lattimer and Slayton all play, who knows.

The defense needs to get their shit together but it's not like Jameis is Tom Brady.


Really?? By that thought we should have lost the last two SB's we were in too.
The problems on D  
ron mexico : 9/18/2019 12:50 pm : link
are too big to solve quickly

it would have to be a 40-35 win.
I'm more interested in what the defense looks like. Arians and  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/18/2019 12:50 pm : link
Betcher know each other inside and out. If we can't turnover Jameis we have serious problems.
The consensus seems to be that TB will win.  
Big Blue '56 : 9/18/2019 12:51 pm : link
Of course should we win, it will be, “look eho we beat.”
With this D, at this point  
Sec 103 : 9/18/2019 12:52 pm : link
couldn't beat Bergen Catholic.....
No.  
NoPeanutz : 9/18/2019 12:54 pm : link
The defense still sucks and at least 4 WRs can't get open.
And if any of those things break our way, Coach will use #26 as a decoy.
RE: The consensus seems to be that TB will win.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/18/2019 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14586202 Big Blue '56 said:
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Of course should we win, it will be, “look eho we beat.”


Which is ridiculous. Playing Tampa in September in an Indian Summer is a difficult task. They are also vastly improved. Can shut down the run, Arians has had a good effect on Jameis already, he actually ate the ball a bunch against Carolina last week. Very talented skills group. They may win the South this year because it is in shambles.
RE: RE: Giants are 6.5 point underdogs  
armstead98 : 9/18/2019 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14586195 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 14586190 armstead98 said:


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A win is very unlikely.

That said, if Shep, Lattimer and Slayton all play, who knows.

The defense needs to get their shit together but it's not like Jameis is Tom Brady.



Really?? By that thought we should have lost the last two SB's we were in too.


Unlikely doesn't mean impossible.
They had a decent chance with Eli  
BillT : 9/18/2019 12:56 pm : link
Maybe Jones is ready to do that as well.
I think so...  
Captplanet : 9/18/2019 12:57 pm : link
I know it was only preseason, but you can't deny that there was a noticeable difference in enthusiasm level from when Eli ran the offense to when DJ ran the offense. I think you will see a different team take the field on Sunday.
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arcarsenal : 9/18/2019 1:00 pm : link
Magic 8 ball says...

"Ask Again Later"
He'll have his moments, but I think we lose.  
bceagle05 : 9/18/2019 1:03 pm : link
Can't take this shit defense on the road and expect a win, unless Jameis throws us five picks. I think we'll beat Washington, and probably lose the next two. 1-5 after six games.
you know what  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/18/2019 1:08 pm : link
I'm not thinking about if the Giants are going to win right now -- I just want to see them be more competitive. I fully expect Jones to be making mistakes , but I want to see if he provides the team with a spark.

Once I start seeing that - then I'm gonna start pulling for wins.
I want a win  
EJJ : 9/18/2019 1:15 pm : link
but I want to see a lively, aggressive, exciting team. If we get that wins will follow.

Final Giants 34 Bucks 31
RE: you know what  
arcarsenal : 9/18/2019 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14586257 gidiefor said:
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I'm not thinking about if the Giants are going to win right now -- I just want to see them be more competitive. I fully expect Jones to be making mistakes , but I want to see if he provides the team with a spark.

Once I start seeing that - then I'm gonna start pulling for wins.


For the Giants to be at all competitive, it's the defense that is going to have to figure some things out.

A better offense can help the defense - but we got on the board quickly in each of the first two games only for the defense to turn around and almost immediately start allowing TD drive after TD drive. Didn't matter where the starting FP was, didn't matter if they were in 3rd and longs... the defense has not been able to stop a damn thing.

I'm actually not terribly concerned about the offense. I think once Jones gets some games under his belt and we get Tate and Shepard back (and hopefully Slayton) and there are a few more targets there, we will manage to score some points.

I just have no faith in the defense being able to get any sort of meaningful stop right now. I do expect them to get better as the year goes on...but what's going on back there right now is inexcusable and we can't be competitive until that gets cleaned up.
I hope so  
Batenhorst : 9/18/2019 1:25 pm : link
Really there are so many variables here it's hard to predict the score of this game.

Lets hope the Giants improve on both sides of the ball and no one gets hurt.

As for Jones- If he plays like he did this summer, the Bucs will be looking like we have the 1st 2 games- lost losers. We are not playing the Chiefs or Patriots. The Bucs are a mediocre team.

I think Buffalo and the Boys are playoffs bound

One can only hope and pray. It will be interesting.
If they let them play 18 guys on defense all at once,  
Red Dog : 9/18/2019 1:29 pm : link
then they might have a chance.
Tampa Bay 31  
M.S. : 9/18/2019 1:29 pm : link

New York Giants 17
RE: If they let them play 18 guys on defense all at once,  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/18/2019 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14586335 Red Dog said:
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then they might have a chance.


Cmon I think that is ridiculous. 13 should get it done.
I'm hopeful that the defense will take a more  
Section331 : 9/18/2019 1:39 pm : link
aggressive posture this week. Shurmur alluded to it by saying they would play more press coverage. If Jones has to make up for a terrible defense, that is a lot to ask for a guy in his first start.
Not sure. Will the defense get their asses in gear?  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/18/2019 1:41 pm : link
Right now they couldn't stop my daughter & her preschool friends from driving down the field.
Can Jones play defensive back, or rush the passer?  
PatersonPlank : 9/18/2019 1:43 pm : link
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RE: Can Jones play defensive back, or rush the passer?  
Bruner4329 : 9/18/2019 1:54 pm : link
In comment 14586383 PatersonPlank said:
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Or run a pass route and create space from defender. Maybe he can throw it to himself!!
RE: Tampa Bay 31  
Batenhorst : 9/18/2019 2:12 pm : link
In comment 14586337 M.S. said:
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New York Giants 17


Yeah I get it
Its hard to imagine the Giants beating anyone. We are steeped in a losing culture

This will be interesting
Could he also play defense?  
5BowlsSoon : 9/18/2019 2:54 pm : link
Honestly, the way our defense is playing, the only way we could win is winning a shootout, like 38-35. I’m not sure DJ can do that.....now.
RE: Could he also play defense?  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/18/2019 2:56 pm : link
In comment 14586508 5BowlsSoon said:
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Honestly, the way our defense is playing, the only way we could win is winning a shootout, like 38-35. I’m not sure DJ can do that.....now.


I actually think we lose a shoot out. If I was betting I'd take the over.
RE: RE: Tampa Bay 31  
M.S. : 9/18/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14586450 Batenhorst said:
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In comment 14586337 M.S. said:


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New York Giants 17



Yeah I get it
Its hard to imagine the Giants beating anyone. We are steeped in a losing culture

This will be interesting

I wish I felt differently.
I think we will  
Jay on the Island : 9/18/2019 3:48 pm : link
Jones will have a rushing touchdown as well. I think the entire team steps up to support their new starter.
a win in two weeks :-)  
federer70 : 9/18/2019 4:11 pm : link
lose this week in a close loss, and then beat the skins :-)
RE: Could he also play defense?  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/18/2019 5:54 pm : link
In comment 14586508 5BowlsSoon said:
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Honestly, the way our defense is playing, the only way we could win is winning a shootout, like 38-35. I’m not sure DJ can do that.....now.

Even with SS and Tate, we really don't have the receivers for a shootout.
Depends on how it is perceived on the team  
Mike in Boston : 9/18/2019 6:42 pm : link
If players think that the change is made because Jones's athleticism offers something Eli's experience doesn't at this point, it might.

If this is taken as giving up on the season, even though it is obvious that the Giants' aren't likely to do much, it will likely inspire a season of lackadaisical play. No player in the NFL is so uncompetitive as to be willing to lay it out for 14 games "to see what we have for next year".

And if the team takes it like O'Hara, as "the defense sucks but I can't fix that so let's try changing QB's" Shurmur will lose the locker room before the week is out and this will be the worst Giants team ever. (And I remember when Gary Wood was the QB)
RE: The consensus seems to be that TB will win.  
micky : 9/18/2019 7:09 pm : link
In comment 14586202 Big Blue '56 said:
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Of course should we win, it will be, “look eho we beat.”


Can't use that excuse for the Giants this year only vs Miami 😉
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