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NFT: Navy confirms "UFO's"

DanMetroMan : 9/18/2019 3:41 pm
"In December 2017 and March 2018, The New York Times released three allegedly declassified videos showing U.S. Navy pilots trailing some unidentified flying objects. The mystery crafts moved at hypersonic speeds, flying tens of thousands of feet above the Earth with no distinct wings, engines or visible signs of propulsion whatsoever. Were they flying saucers? Incredibly high-tech drones? The pilots had no idea — and, according to a recent statement from Navy intelligence officials, neither does the U.S. government.

In a statement delivered to the intelligence news website The Black Vault, Joseph Gradisher, a spokesperson for the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Information Warfare, announced that the Navy officially considers the craft in these three videos "unidentified aerial phenomena." That means that the eerie videos are authentic — and that the objects, which were detected in restricted military training airspaces in 2004 and 2015, were not supposed to be there. The objects still have not been successfully identified as any known type of aircraft.

CBS News: U.S. Navy pilots reportedly spotted UFOs over East Coast
The UFO footage was also never cleared for public release, Gradisher told The Black Vault — meaning these are three unidentified phenomena you were never supposed to know about."
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I’m putting my money on  
BUgiantfan : 9/18/2019 4:06 pm : link
Punks with drones.
RE: Randy?  
AndyMilligan : 9/18/2019 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14586586 Stan in LA said:
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So this IS a football thread..
RE: UFO  
Vanzetti : 9/18/2019 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14586608 AndyMilligan said:
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doesn't mean aliens. There is no proof of aliens visiting Earth..


Have you ever seen Amy Schumer?
RE: I’m putting my money on  
bradshaw44 : 9/18/2019 4:23 pm : link
In comment 14586640 BUgiantfan said:
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Punks with drones.


How could punks with drones cause a football field size space of water to bubble as if it was boiling and then submerge deep under water?
Kinda like the hollow earth theory  
Payasdaddy : 9/18/2019 4:39 pm : link
of where they come from
But hey I am a huge bigfoot believer too
RE: Kinda like the hollow earth theory  
BamaBlue : 9/18/2019 4:47 pm : link
In comment 14586708 Payasdaddy said:
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of where they come from
But hey I am a huge bigfoot believer too


Nah... they're on the moon. Why do you think there have been a string of probes unable to land (Russia, China, Israel, India). It took 60 years to go from first flight to putting people on the moon. 50 years after the moon landing, mankind can't muster the technology to land a probe on the moon!?
If there were such a thing as UFO's...  
x meadowlander : 9/18/2019 4:55 pm : link
...we likely wouldn't exist.

They would be here almost certainly for resources.
so probes cant land on moon why?  
Payasdaddy : 9/18/2019 4:56 pm : link
UFO's shooting them down?
Hollow earth theory could explain where bigfoot hides in the daytime too :)
I love  
jtfuoco : 9/18/2019 5:15 pm : link
How most peoples natural response is to make some kind of joke about UFOs. However, the most advance military the world has ever seen a country that spends 3Xs the amount of money on Aerospace then all the other countries in the world combine. Just confirmed that there are objects that enter our Air Space to include our military installations and commercial air line space on a regular basis. We cant track them we cant follow them we cant shoot them down and we have no idea what there intent is. But hey lets make a big joke about it and I am not just talking about BBI I hear the same stuff at work and fellow neighbors. This should be huge news on every network not a small article on CNN online.
Gun to my head  
Sneakers O'toole : 9/18/2019 5:16 pm : link
I put my money on #1. Some sort of advanced drone testing the military doesn't want to talk about
RE: Odds the UFOs are...  
dreadedrummer : 9/18/2019 5:18 pm : link
In comment 14586594 widmerseyebrow said:
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1) A secret U.S. military project?
2) Another country?
3) ALIENS?

4) Unidentified Natural Phenomenon?

Not saying that's what it is, but it's just as likely as the others.
(Personally, I'm hoping for 3 but I try to keep an open mind)
RE: I love  
AndyMilligan : 9/18/2019 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14586761 jtfuoco said:
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How most peoples natural response is to make some kind of joke about UFOs. However, the most advance military the world has ever seen a country that spends 3Xs the amount of money on Aerospace then all the other countries in the world combine. Just confirmed that there are objects that enter our Air Space to include our military installations and commercial air line space on a regular basis. We cant track them we cant follow them we cant shoot them down and we have no idea what there intent is. But hey lets make a big joke about it and I am not just talking about BBI I hear the same stuff at work and fellow neighbors. This should be huge news on every network not a small article on CNN online.

I love how we now live in an age of mass coverage of almost every inch of the globe with phone cameras and we still have only the vaguest images to work with. There are no aliens. People would film them by now if there were.
RE: I love  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/18/2019 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14586761 jtfuoco said:
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How most peoples natural response is to make some kind of joke about UFOs. However, the most advance military the world has ever seen a country that spends 3Xs the amount of money on Aerospace then all the other countries in the world combine. Just confirmed that there are objects that enter our Air Space to include our military installations and commercial air line space on a regular basis. We cant track them we cant follow them we cant shoot them down and we have no idea what there intent is. But hey lets make a big joke about it and I am not just talking about BBI I hear the same stuff at work and fellow neighbors. This should be huge news on every network not a small article on CNN online.


Theirs an existential threat! Give us more money so we can fight! As someone that was in the military, they constantly our blowing up threats to justify increasing their budget, why should this be any different? If they were here, they wouldn't say a damn thing about it because they know there isn't a chance we could do anything about it.
kinda of the thought  
Payasdaddy : 9/18/2019 5:23 pm : link
of the millions of galaxys out there to think we are the only ones (somewhat intelligent) just kinda shows how screwed up humans can be
Theres  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/18/2019 5:24 pm : link
SC
RE: kinda of the thought  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/18/2019 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14586779 Payasdaddy said:
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of the millions of galaxys out there to think we are the only ones (somewhat intelligent) just kinda shows how screwed up humans can be


Nobody is saying that. The chances we are alone are infinitesimally small. Its just that we'd either have no idea of their existence if they were here, or we would have credible evidence of their existence.
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jtfuoco : 9/18/2019 5:31 pm : link
In comment 14586774 AndyMilligan said:
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How most peoples natural response is to make some kind of joke about UFOs. However, the most advance military the world has ever seen a country that spends 3Xs the amount of money on Aerospace then all the other countries in the world combine. Just confirmed that there are objects that enter our Air Space to include our military installations and commercial air line space on a regular basis. We cant track them we cant follow them we cant shoot them down and we have no idea what there intent is. But hey lets make a big joke about it and I am not just talking about BBI I hear the same stuff at work and fellow neighbors. This should be huge news on every network not a small article on CNN online.


I love how we now live in an age of mass coverage of almost every inch of the globe with phone cameras and we still have only the vaguest images to work with. There are no aliens. People would film them by now if there were.


Well Scientist have only caught pictures of live Giant Squid once or after looking for them for the last 50 years and we know they exist and that there may be up to 1 million of them in our oceans.
That is because the deep depths of the ocean is vastly harder to  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/18/2019 5:38 pm : link
navigate than the atmosphere. They have finally figured out they need to use red lights on their underwater cameras to observe these deep water animals, and lo and behold they have live footage of a giant squid.
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flycatcher : 9/18/2019 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14586766 Sneakers O'toole said:
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I put my money on #1. Some sort of advanced drone testing the military doesn't want to talk about

This, of course.

One widely-seen UFO is the "black triangle", which I have 100% absolutely watched hovering over Rt 287 in Morristown. It seems that this probably an NSA surveillance drone, and to my eyes it was clearly a drone; yet people all over the country often report it as an alien spacecraft. I'd wager these Navy vids are something along those lines.
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RE: That is because the deep depths of the ocean is vastly harder to  
jtfuoco : 9/18/2019 5:43 pm : link
In comment 14586792 Zeke's Alibi said:
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navigate than the atmosphere. They have finally figured out they need to use red lights on their underwater cameras to observe these deep water animals, and lo and behold they have live footage of a giant squid.


That is my point these UFO and I am not saying they are alien I am just saying there is something there may only be visible buy thermal cameras and thus why very few pictures of them
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jtfuoco : 9/18/2019 5:50 pm : link
In comment 14586798 flycatcher said:
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I put my money on #1. Some sort of advanced drone testing the military doesn't want to talk about


This, of course.

One widely-seen UFO is the "black triangle", which I have 100% absolutely watched hovering over Rt 287 in Morristown. It seems that this probably an NSA surveillance drone, and to my eyes it was clearly a drone; yet people all over the country often report it as an alien spacecraft. I'd wager these Navy vids are something along those lines.
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I have no doubt that 90% of the sightings that people see are advance drones and planes but where it gets tricky is the stuff that is coming in and out of the oceans with no reduction in speed or the pilot that stated it was a square surrounded by a bubble with no visible propulsion
RE: If there were such a thing as UFO's...  
mattlawson : 9/18/2019 5:55 pm : link
In comment 14586738 x meadowlander said:
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...we likely wouldn't exist.

They would be here almost certainly for resources.



What if we exist because of them?
If to the stars is to be believed  
mattlawson : 9/18/2019 6:02 pm : link
There is a stigma that has existed even within the military to keep quite out of fear of ridicule. These present of threat because they are capable of maneuver is that we cannot achieve or defend. We don’t know why they are here, what they want, and Tom Delonge has dropped hints about the moon as well. I find the whole topic fascinating and I agree it should be discussed intelligently and without ridicule, certainly without fear of ridicule, openly and transparently.

It presents potentially reality shifting information, rewrites our origin story - And says unequivocally how small indeed we are and how little we actually understand about the world we live in.

Our own astronauts have gone on record to say that this phenomenon is real, it’s been around since the very beginning and has been whitewashed. It’s the biggest story there is.
I have a close friend who...  
EricJ : 9/18/2019 6:04 pm : link
Was a contractor years ago and did work for our military in a area that would know whether the existence of “other” craft was true. Confirmed...
Perfect  
WideRight : 9/18/2019 6:20 pm : link

Two more days until the trolls storm Area 51.

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AndyMilligan : 9/18/2019 6:26 pm : link
In comment 14586785 Zeke's Alibi said:
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of the millions of galaxys out there to think we are the only ones (somewhat intelligent) just kinda shows how screwed up humans can be



Nobody is saying that. The chances we are alone are infinitesimally small. Its just that we'd either have no idea of their existence if they were here, or we would have credible evidence of their existence.

yes, and don't forget the vastness of the universe. How would they find us? how would they travel to us? I think folks don't appreciate the distances we are talking about. Yea there is probably life somewhere. We'll never find each other.
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AndyMilligan : 9/18/2019 6:28 pm : link
In comment 14586819 mattlawson said:
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There is a stigma that has existed even within the military to keep quite out of fear of ridicule. These present of threat because they are capable of maneuver is that we cannot achieve or defend. We don’t know why they are here, what they want, and Tom Delonge has dropped hints about the moon as well. I find the whole topic fascinating and I agree it should be discussed intelligently and without ridicule, certainly without fear of ridicule, openly and transparently.

It presents potentially reality shifting information, rewrites our origin story - And says unequivocally how small indeed we are and how little we actually understand about the world we live in.

Our own astronauts have gone on record to say that this phenomenon is real, it’s been around since the very beginning and has been whitewashed. It’s the biggest story there is.

it sounds like you are conflating phenomena to make it seem these are all the same.
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flycatcher : 9/18/2019 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14586808 jtfuoco said:
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I put my money on #1. Some sort of advanced drone testing the military doesn't want to talk about


This, of course.

One widely-seen UFO is the "black triangle", which I have 100% absolutely watched hovering over Rt 287 in Morristown. It seems that this probably an NSA surveillance drone, and to my eyes it was clearly a drone; yet people all over the country often report it as an alien spacecraft. I'd wager these Navy vids are something along those lines.
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I have no doubt that 90% of the sightings that people see are advance drones and planes but where it gets tricky is the stuff that is coming in and out of the oceans with no reduction in speed or the pilot that stated it was a square surrounded by a bubble with no visible propulsion

I'm less concerned about "aliens", than I am about the fact that it's pretty much confirmed that an alphabet agency uses with top-secret tech to secretly look at us. It's crystal clear to me that the government would have people believe in spacemen, rather than be curious about actual secret tech spy devices (stealth tech, cloaking, etc.).
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Canton : 9/18/2019 7:24 pm : link
In comment 14586779 Payasdaddy said:
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of the millions of galaxys out there to think we are the only ones (somewhat intelligent) just kinda shows how screwed up humans can be



More like 100 billion galaxies
All in all, Hubble reveals an estimated 100 billion galaxies in the universe or so, but this number is likely to increase to about 200 billion as telescope technology in space improves
Some of y’all need to listen to the JRE Bob Lazar episode.  
732NYG : 9/18/2019 7:32 pm : link
A lot of what he’s been laughed at for decades has since been corroborated, and he paints quite a picture of a possible explanation for this phenomena, be it aliens or the result of back-engineered extraterrestrial technology.
Don't we have a branch of the military to deal with this crap,  
GiantsUA : 9/18/2019 7:38 pm : link
Space Force AKA Space Cadets, they may have neutralized the threat already, unbeknownst to the US NAVY.
Are any of the UFO  
JPinstripes : 9/18/2019 7:42 pm : link
alien pilots or passengers known to run a sub 4.0 40 yard dash or throw a football 90 yards on a rope in the air?

The Giants need a damn alien!
Jim Fassel will have something to say to them  
Tim in JTown : 9/18/2019 7:51 pm : link
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we can use an alien  
Payasdaddy : 9/18/2019 7:58 pm : link
ER, DB , DL etc
6'7 295 3.91 forty
4.98 shuttle time coming off the edge
This could all be bullshit,  
smshmth8690 : 9/18/2019 8:34 pm : link
but if it is true, the timing is impeccable.
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The engine tech is anti-gravity engine  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 9/18/2019 8:37 pm : link
Bob Lazar speaks a lot about it.
RE: Some of y’all need to listen to the JRE Bob Lazar episode.  
family progtitioner : 9/18/2019 8:37 pm : link
In comment 14586872 732NYG said:
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A lot of what he’s been laughed at for decades has since been corroborated, and he paints quite a picture of a possible explanation for this phenomena, be it aliens or the result of back-engineered extraterrestrial technology.


I listened to that. I’m not sure what to think about him. The whole migraine thing was lame but his story, if true, is incredible.
He is a lot more than just getting a migraine on a podcast  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 9/18/2019 8:52 pm : link
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RE: The engine tech is anti-gravity engine  
Canton : 9/18/2019 8:56 pm : link
In comment 14586941 Bold Ruler said:
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Bob Lazar speaks a lot about it.


The comment by Lazar, about reverse engineering the anti-gravity engine, was like dropping a nuclear reactor into the 16th century, and asking them to reverse engineer that.

I found that horrifying.

One theory (if alien)  
bradshaw44 : 9/18/2019 8:57 pm : link
Why these aircraft can make such turns is that it could be another intelligences AI piloting them. Think where we are with our AI. And then extrapolate that out millions of years by another life forms existence. They could be sending their AI to explore. Kind of like we use unmanned drones for spying and combat these days. And I’m sure we are moving towards creating an army of robots to keep our soldiers from having to die in combat. We are going the way of Star Wars.

Not too mention, the life forms that may have created the AI May be extinct by now and these machines are out on a very long scouting mission.

It surprises me how many people so quickly write this stuff off. We live on a spinning rock in the middle of outer space. Sure that definitely means we are the only intelligent life in the MASSIVE VAST sea of black and stars/planets that we see every night before going to bed. Really take a second to think about that.
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family progtitioner : 9/18/2019 8:58 pm : link
In comment 14586966 Bold Ruler said:
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I see there’s a Netflix documentary with him. I’ll check it out. Like I said, his story is incredible but I’m cynical by nature
Cattle  
Beer Man : 9/18/2019 9:24 pm : link
mutilations are on the rise.
The audio testimony....  
thrunthrublue : 9/18/2019 9:39 pm : link
From those sane, ultra capable, talented, best of the best aviators, buried by g forces into their seats, flying at supersonic speeds trying to keep up with unidentifiable, uncannily capable objects...makes this the most shocking observation of ufo’s in the history of mankind. Makes one ask a simple question....WTF?
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smshmth8690 : 9/18/2019 9:41 pm : link
In comment 14586978 family progtitioner said:
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I see there’s a Netflix documentary with him. I’ll check it out. Like I said, his story is incredible but I’m cynical by nature


It's well worth watching. Incidentally Bob Lazar claims that the craft he worked on, 'The Sport Model' came from an archeological dig, not a crash. Could it be that this technology is from a past civilization on Earth?
After my last comment,  
smshmth8690 : 9/18/2019 9:43 pm : link
I'm waiting for someone to post: "Ancient Astronaut Theorists say, Yes"
The lazar doc is not great  
mattlawson : 9/18/2019 10:27 pm : link
Watch some old vintage YouTube interviews - he never changed his story. I consider him credible
RE: If there were such a thing as UFO's...  
NYDCBlue : 9/19/2019 11:56 am : link
In comment 14586738 x meadowlander said:
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...we likely wouldn't exist.

They would be here almost certainly for resources.


Which resources? There is nothing all that special about our Solar System. Sol is a pretty standard main sequence star. It is not even like our solar system is wildly rich in metals anyway....

Besides, if I was an intergalactic resource scavenger why would I want to waste energy extracting resources from planetary bodies? Instead I would just pull up next to the nearest nebula and set the vacuum to high....

Now lets discuss shipping.... How do you plan on moving all these wonderful resources you just mined from the planet Earth, back to your home world in a way that does not use more energy/money/whatever is valuable to you aliens than you can extract peacefully from Earth, without any resistance from us locals?
These resources...?  
BamaBlue : 9/19/2019 1:40 pm : link
RE: These resources...?  
short lease : 9/20/2019 12:29 am : link
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Classic Twilight zone.
So if an alien craft  
Bubba : 9/20/2019 12:57 pm : link
lands in Central Park and sees a man walking a dog and picks up its poop. Who does the alien approach looking for intelligent life?
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