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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/18/2019 4:02 pm
QB Eli Manning -- September 18, 2019

Q: How are you handling the change?
A: Thereís no other option but just to handle it and do my job, support my teammates, support the Giants, and do what I can do to try and go help win some football games. Right now, thatís getting Daniel (Jones) prepared and helping him and supporting him.

Q: Do you wish you had a longer opportunity this year to show what you have?
A: You can wish all you want, thatís not the way it played out. In some ways, I signed up for this knowing when you draft a young quarterback this can happen. Iíve got to live with it and make the best of it.

Q: What was your initial reaction when Coach Shurmur told you yesterday?
A: I knew there was a possibility and I just said Iíll handle it, Iíll support Daniel, Iíll be a good teammate and do what Iím told.

Q: Just two games in, was there any element of surprise with the decision?
A: When youíre a football player, you do what youíre told and this is what Iíve been told and Iíll handle it.

Q: Do you anticipate being here for the whole season, doing what youíre told for the next 14-15 weeks?
A: Yeah, I mean I havenít thought much past this week. So, just kind of taking it day by day and figuring that out.

Q: Do you think this was handled with respect?
A: Yeah, I think everybody that I talked toóit was handled as good as you can handle it.

Q: What have been your follow-up conversationsóhave you talked to John Mara or anyone else?
A: Yes, I talked to John Mara yesterday, so everythingís been good and as positive as it can be.

Q: You knew this was a possibility, but did you ever think it would be a possibility after two games?
A: I didnít know how everything was going to shake out this year. You just know when you draft a young quarterback, thereís a possibility that theyíre going to play him if things donít go well. We didnít start fast, and thatís the situation weíre in now.

Q: Would you have wanted to come back here if you knew it was only going to be a two-game trial?
A: Yeah, I think you give it a shot, and Iíve worked hard, competed, did everything I thought I could, and it just didnít work out.

Q: How important is it to you to be the mentor now to Daniel?
A: In some ways, that was kind of part of the deal. Iíve been trying to help him in every which way I could throughout the preseason and training camp and what not, so now Iíll still do that. Iíll support him, answer his questions if he has any, donít get him thinking too much, but just give him information that Iíve learned over 15 years that I think he could use.

Q: The way it was presented to you, how much of the decision was performance related?
A: I donít think we have to get into that. Whatever Coach (Shurmur) said, Iíll let him answer those questions.

Q: What is your message to the fans in terms of embracing a new starting quarterback?
A: Be great fans and support the team and whoeverís in there. Daniel will do a great job, heís worked hard and heíll handle the situation well.

Q: Was there any level of frustration knowing that you had so many injuries to your receiving corps and this was such a small sample?
A: Thereís always disappointment, and not winning games, not winning those first two games, but youíve just got to move on past that and handle the new situation and make the best of it.

Q: How do you describe your emotions yesterday when it went down?
A: Obviously disappointed, not happy about it, but you accept it and make the best of it.

Q: What kind of honor has it been to represent this organization as the starting quarterback for parts of 16 seasons?
A: Yeah, and I still want to represent them, and itís not over, the seasonís not over, weíve got a lot of football. So, Iím just going to go do my part, do my job, get Daniel ready to play, be ready to play if called upon and support my teammates and get everybody ready.

Q: Is this the end of Eli Manning or just another phase?
A: Who knows? Again, Iím not dying and the seasonís not over, so thereís a lot to be positive about, a lot to be grateful for, so Iíve just got to accept my new role and make the best of it.

Q: Do you definitely want to stay here? Any thought to waiving your no-trade clause?
A: Just taking this day by day, so just trying to figure out how to run a scout teamóthat was my number one objective of today, and I thought I did pretty well.

Q: How does this move impact the way you think about your future?
A: Again, Iíll get into futures later on. Right now, my future is Iím the second-string quarterback of the Giants and Iíve got to get myself ready to play and do whatever Iím called upon and feel I need to do to help out the rest of my teammates.

Q: Based on the conversations you had this offseason with Dave Gettleman, Pat Shurmur, and John Mara, do you feel that you were misled at all with the fact that you only got two weeks?
A: Again, Iím not going to go into all that. I think itís just one of those deals where this is the situation and you deal with it, and thatís what Iím doing.

Q: (Inaudible)
A: You handle them the same way you handle wins, losses, all of them. I think the only thing you can control is your attitude and the decisions you make and the mindset you have going into it. I think thatís all I can control.

Q: Was it weird running the scout team?
A: Yeah, itís a little different, but you go about it and try to make good decisions and use good footwork and donít get into bad habits.

Q: From what you see of Daniel, do you see a level of ability and grasping the system that you believe he will be ready?
A: Yeah, I think so. Heís done a good job, heís worked extremely hard, he has talent, and he a has a good mindset, so I think heíll handle everything well and I think heíll be ready.

Q: Is it hard for you to prepare for this game, in this role?
A: I think youíve got to handle it. A lot of guys have been backups, and youíve got to prepare. You might not get every rep, but I think when you have a lot of reps under your belt and have played against a lot of types of systems and know the system well, Iíll be ready. I think when youíre helping someone else get prepared, it prepares you in that sense.

Q: You said you understood the situation and knew this was a possibility when you decided to come back hereódid knowing that at all make it any easier?
A: I think just being somewhat prepared knowing that it could happen at some point, youíre still disappointed, but I think youíve got to handle it and youíve got to put the team first and make sure youíre not being a distraction or causing something to impact the team negatively.

Q: This year, thereís been a tremendous upheaval in the quarterback position with Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Breesóa lot of guys in, a lot of guys out. Have you monitored that, and is that something where if somebody wants you--
A: Monitored in the sense that I respect those guys and like them and Iím blessed that Iím still healthy, but nothing besides that.

Q: What were the last couple days like for youóstarting with the end of the game, and then on Monday when Pat Shurmur kind of created some uncertainty? Did you walk into Tuesday maybe expecting that possibility?
A: I get hit in the head a lot, I canít think that far back (laughter). Just take it day by day. I remember most of today, I know whatís in the game planóthatís what my focus is on.

Q: Did what happened two years ago help in the sense that it was something similar?
A: Yeah, I think just knowing itís a possibility and going into the season knowing if we didnít get off to a good start, didnít play well, that this would happen. So, you donít want it, you donít plan for it or expect it, but I think youíve just got to be prepared for it, and not be surprised by itóit helps you handle it a little bit easier.
This is a grown man speaking  
Go Terps : 9/18/2019 4:05 pm : link
Q: Just two games in, was there any element of surprise with the decision?
A: When youíre a football player, you do what youíre told and this is what Iíve been told and Iíll handle it.

The Giants have had numerous players in recent seasons that could learn from this example. That's why Eli is a champion twice over and the other guys have accomplished dick.
you really can't do that interview  
bigbluehoya : 9/18/2019 4:06 pm : link
any better than he did.
How many fu*king ways  
Big Blue '56 : 9/18/2019 4:09 pm : link
can they ask the same questions?
Of course he handeled it great.  
bradshaw44 : 9/18/2019 4:11 pm : link
I will say this, his words sure sound like if the right team comes calling he will wave the NTC. Just my opinion.
RE: This is a grown man speaking  
Mr. Bungle : 9/18/2019 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14586635 Go Terps said:
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Q: Just two games in, was there any element of surprise with the decision?
A: When youíre a football player, you do what youíre told and this is what Iíve been told and Iíll handle it.

The Giants have had numerous players in recent seasons that could learn from this example. That's why Eli is a champion twice over and the other guys have accomplished dick.

Not to mention that Eli has a higher football IQ than the guy(s) telling him "what to do." I'm sure he loves that part of it, too.
So this was "part of the deal"...  
bw in dc : 9/18/2019 4:12 pm : link
In other words, Eli is the highest paid QB coach in the history of the NFL.

This organization is just the best.
This is what really separates him from so many others  
speedywheels : 9/18/2019 4:12 pm : link
Q: How important is it to you to be the mentor now to Daniel?
A: In some ways, that was kind of part of the deal. Iíve been trying to help him in every which way I could throughout the preseason and training camp and what not, so now Iíll still do that. Iíll support him, answer his questions if he has any, donít get him thinking too much, but just give him information that Iíve learned over 15 years that I think he could use.

Well, there are a LOT of things that separate him from so many others, but this is towards the top of the list. Compare this to dickhead Favre comments about mentoring Rodgers...
Just an observsational note  
Bill L : 9/18/2019 4:13 pm : link
It seems like "reporters" spend much more time trying to bait and incite controversy as opposed to providing information as to whether there is any.
RE: So this was  
Bill L : 9/18/2019 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14586650 bw in dc said:
Quote:
In other words, Eli is the highest paid QB coach in the history of the NFL.

This organization is just the best.


Why do you always have to try to ruin things?
RE: This is what really separates him from so many others  
bradshaw44 : 9/18/2019 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14586651 speedywheels said:
Quote:
Q: How important is it to you to be the mentor now to Daniel?
A: In some ways, that was kind of part of the deal. Iíve been trying to help him in every which way I could throughout the preseason and training camp and what not, so now Iíll still do that. Iíll support him, answer his questions if he has any, donít get him thinking too much, but just give him information that Iíve learned over 15 years that I think he could use.

Well, there are a LOT of things that separate him from so many others, but this is towards the top of the list. Compare this to dickhead Favre comments about mentoring Rodgers...


Or Ben's comments about mentoring Rudolph.
Wow...  
Chris684 : 9/18/2019 4:15 pm : link
I think this answer is very telling...

Q: Do you wish you had a longer opportunity this year to show what you have?
A: You can wish all you want, thatís not the way it played out. In some ways, I signed up for this knowing when you draft a young quarterback this can happen. Iíve got to live with it and make the best of it.

I have a feeling the now infamous "low post" conversation that Gettleman and Eli had was regarding Eli actually being on this roster this year.

I really don't think NYG wanted Eli back. I think Mara and probably even Gettleman were aware of his legacy, and with Gettleman also the realization that this is not the QB capable of running the offense his hand-picked HC runs. In a way they wanted to save Eli from himself, and also move on.

I think Eli's motivation was two fold. Yes, like anyone would be he was partly motivated by the money. But honestly even more than that I think Eli is just different. I think he truly just likes competing. I don't think for a second Eli cares about his legacy, W/L record, HOF. I think he just wanted to be quarterback of the Giants as long as he could.

I think Eli taking DG to the low post and "winning" was convincing the organization not to release him. In return, I think the Giants told Eli there were going to be no guarantees in terms of roster building, taking a QB high, playing time, etc. I think management, especially Mara had an eye on Eli's W/L record this whole time, basically saving Eli from himself in not letting dip below .500. I don't think it's a coincidence that there was a 2 game leash which was the gap in evening his record, with no sign of being able to get it or keep it above that mark.

I feel like that's exactly how this went down.
RE: This is what really separates him from so many others  
Mr. Bungle : 9/18/2019 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14586651 speedywheels said:
Quote:
Q: How important is it to you to be the mentor now to Daniel?
A: In some ways, that was kind of part of the deal. Iíve been trying to help him in every which way I could throughout the preseason and training camp and what not, so now Iíll still do that. Iíll support him, answer his questions if he has any, donít get him thinking too much, but just give him information that Iíve learned over 15 years that I think he could use.

Well, there are a LOT of things that separate him from so many others, but this is towards the top of the list. Compare this to dickhead Favre comments about mentoring Rodgers...

Or dickhead Roethlisberger who wanted no part of mentoring Mason Rudolph -- until a season-ending injury occurs, and suddenly he wants to play a front-and-center role as Mr. Magnanimous.
RE: RE: So this was  
dorgan : 9/18/2019 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14586655 Bill L said:
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In comment 14586650 bw in dc said:


Quote:


In other words, Eli is the highest paid QB coach in the history of the NFL.

This organization is just the best.



Why do you always have to try to ruin things?


You already know the answer to that, Bill.
RE: RE: So this was  
bw in dc : 9/18/2019 4:21 pm : link
In comment 14586655 Bill L said:
Quote:
In comment 14586650 bw in dc said:


Quote:


In other words, Eli is the highest paid QB coach in the history of the NFL.

This organization is just the best.



Why do you always have to try to ruin things?


Ruin what?

This doesn't pique your interest that part of keeping Eli and paying him his salary was to be Jones's caddie?

Class act as always.  
Blue21 : 9/18/2019 4:24 pm : link
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GiantEgo : 9/18/2019 4:49 pm : link
His fortitude will not be easily replaced
Ummm he's not going anywhere til after the season ends  
micky : 9/18/2019 4:55 pm : link
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RE: Wow...  
bw in dc : 9/18/2019 5:05 pm : link
In comment 14586660 Chris684 said:
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I think this answer is very telling...

Q: Do you wish you had a longer opportunity this year to show what you have?
A: You can wish all you want, thatís not the way it played out. In some ways, I signed up for this knowing when you draft a young quarterback this can happen. Iíve got to live with it and make the best of it.

I have a feeling the now infamous "low post" conversation that Gettleman and Eli had was regarding Eli actually being on this roster this year.

I really don't think NYG wanted Eli back. I think Mara and probably even Gettleman were aware of his legacy, and with Gettleman also the realization that this is not the QB capable of running the offense his hand-picked HC runs. In a way they wanted to save Eli from himself, and also move on.

I think Eli's motivation was two fold. Yes, like anyone would be he was partly motivated by the money. But honestly even more than that I think Eli is just different. I think he truly just likes competing. I don't think for a second Eli cares about his legacy, W/L record, HOF. I think he just wanted to be quarterback of the Giants as long as he could.

I think Eli taking DG to the low post and "winning" was convincing the organization not to release him. In return, I think the Giants told Eli there were going to be no guarantees in terms of roster building, taking a QB high, playing time, etc. I think management, especially Mara had an eye on Eli's W/L record this whole time, basically saving Eli from himself in not letting dip below .500. I don't think it's a coincidence that there was a 2 game leash which was the gap in evening his record, with no sign of being able to get it or keep it above that mark.

I feel like that's exactly how this went down.


Okay, I agree on one key piece here. That Jints Central was sensitive to Eli's record. I think that is spot on.

However, I don't think Eli going "low post" was some euphemism for begging for his job. No, I think Eli knew he had leverage. He knew Mara had his back; so he flexed some muscle to remind DG that he absolutely knows he can still play - see the last half of last season - and there is more in the tank if DG can simply build a better team.

I think this decision to take Eli out after only two games is two fold - preserving Eli's W/L record AND they could feel the disgust from the fans/media already. So they could kill two birds with one stone.

Preserve the record and give the fans a B12 shot with Jones getting a shot in the saddle...

RE: RE: So this was  
JCin332 : 9/18/2019 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14586655 Bill L said:
Quote:
In comment 14586650 bw in dc said:


Quote:


In other words, Eli is the highest paid QB coach in the history of the NFL.

This organization is just the best.



Why do you always have to try to ruin things?


Because he's a nutjob troll Redskins fan...??
RE: Class act as always.  
TMS : 9/18/2019 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14586675 Blue21 said:
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. Well said.
Don't want to start a whole thread on this but  
FranknWeezer : 9/18/2019 5:17 pm : link
what was Eli's last series like against Buffalo? Who caught and/or dropped his last pass? Who caught his last TD? That'll be good trivia someday.
RE: Don't want to start a whole thread on this but  
Photoguy : 9/18/2019 5:45 pm : link
In comment 14586769 FranknWeezer said:
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what was Eli's last series like against Buffalo? Who caught and/or dropped his last pass? Who caught his last TD? That'll be good trivia someday.


I don't know how the series went, but T.J. Jones caught the TD pass.
Just Eli being Eli  
arniefez : 9/18/2019 6:07 pm : link
We were very lucky. Some Giant fans have always known. Some will find out and some will never get it. That's fine we all consume our entertainment our own way. Phil Simms 84-90 and Eli Manning 05-11. 4 Super Bowls. Makes the whole 50 + years worth it.
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arcarsenal : 9/18/2019 6:30 pm : link
The epitome of class. From start to finish, Eli did it the right way and he'll always be a champion. Two fucking times over.

That's my QB.

Daniel has some big shoes to fill; but I'll be pulling for him just as hard as I pulled for 23 year old Eli when he took the field against Atlanta in November of 2004.
Eli is a ďmenschĒ. He always has been. Heís a great human being first  
plato : 9/18/2019 6:47 pm : link
and a great qb second. The Giants should be proud to have had Eli as the face of the franchise for so many years.
a gift, to those who doubt this, just remember how Kurt Warner handled his transition and he was never the qb Eli was. I saw a lot of Kurt and his wife in St. louis and there were many reasons he was let go of there. He is no Eli.
Thank you Eli, from the U of Miss., two of the greatest, #42, Charlie Conerley to #10, Eli Manning. I have had a blessed fandom with these two great HOFíers, regardless of the shortsighted, lack of memory, NY hating media.
RE: Don't want to start a whole thread on this but  
FranknWeezer : 9/18/2019 6:57 pm : link
In comment 14586769 FranknWeezer said:
Quote:
what was Eli's last series like against Buffalo? Who caught and/or dropped his last pass? Who caught his last TD? That'll be good trivia someday.


Thanks PG
RE: Eli is a ďmenschĒ. He always has been. Heís a great human being first  
Big Blue '56 : 9/18/2019 6:59 pm : link
In comment 14586855 plato said:
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and a great qb second. The Giants should be proud to have had Eli as the face of the franchise for so many years.
a gift, to those who doubt this, just remember how Kurt Warner handled his transition and he was never the qb Eli was. I saw a lot of Kurt and his wife in St. louis and there were many reasons he was let go of there. He is no Eli.
Thank you Eli, from the U of Miss., two of the greatest, #42, Charlie Conerley to #10, Eli Manning. I have had a blessed fandom with these two great HOFíers, regardless of the shortsighted, lack of memory, NY hating media.


Steve, it is egregious that Conerly is not in the HOF. Heís been a finalist 7 times.
Wow, an old soul for sure  
DaveW2 : 9/18/2019 7:57 pm : link
I wish he could have gone on and on.

He may still have one last shot this year, hopefully not because of an injury to DJ.
#ThanksEli  
DavidinBMNY : 9/18/2019 8:06 pm : link
What more can you say? True greatness.

RE: RE: Wow...  
WillVAB : 9/18/2019 8:13 pm : link
In comment 14586752 bw in dc said:
Quote:
In comment 14586660 Chris684 said:


Quote:


I think this answer is very telling...

Q: Do you wish you had a longer opportunity this year to show what you have?
A: You can wish all you want, thatís not the way it played out. In some ways, I signed up for this knowing when you draft a young quarterback this can happen. Iíve got to live with it and make the best of it.

I have a feeling the now infamous "low post" conversation that Gettleman and Eli had was regarding Eli actually being on this roster this year.

I really don't think NYG wanted Eli back. I think Mara and probably even Gettleman were aware of his legacy, and with Gettleman also the realization that this is not the QB capable of running the offense his hand-picked HC runs. In a way they wanted to save Eli from himself, and also move on.

I think Eli's motivation was two fold. Yes, like anyone would be he was partly motivated by the money. But honestly even more than that I think Eli is just different. I think he truly just likes competing. I don't think for a second Eli cares about his legacy, W/L record, HOF. I think he just wanted to be quarterback of the Giants as long as he could.

I think Eli taking DG to the low post and "winning" was convincing the organization not to release him. In return, I think the Giants told Eli there were going to be no guarantees in terms of roster building, taking a QB high, playing time, etc. I think management, especially Mara had an eye on Eli's W/L record this whole time, basically saving Eli from himself in not letting dip below .500. I don't think it's a coincidence that there was a 2 game leash which was the gap in evening his record, with no sign of being able to get it or keep it above that mark.

I feel like that's exactly how this went down.



Okay, I agree on one key piece here. That Jints Central was sensitive to Eli's record. I think that is spot on.

However, I don't think Eli going "low post" was some euphemism for begging for his job. No, I think Eli knew he had leverage. He knew Mara had his back; so he flexed some muscle to remind DG that he absolutely knows he can still play - see the last half of last season - and there is more in the tank if DG can simply build a better team.

I think this decision to take Eli out after only two games is two fold - preserving Eli's W/L record AND they could feel the disgust from the fans/media already. So they could kill two birds with one stone.

Preserve the record and give the fans a B12 shot with Jones getting a shot in the saddle...


I donít think the ďlow postĒ comment had anything to do with that. Eli probably took him to the low post by explaining how the prior regime surrounded him with shit for 7 years and the new regime gave him a shit OL last year.

It seems like Eli is ready to get a shot somewhere else and I hope he gets one with a decent team.
If this is one of the last transcripts...  
moze1021 : 9/18/2019 8:31 pm : link
It should be memorialozed as part of a textbook on how to dealt with situations like this...

One part that struck me that no one has mentioned..

Given the opportunity to blame someone else or throw someone else under the bus when asked about all the receiver injuries... Eli, for probably the millionth time in this career, took the high road once again and said nothing negative about the receiver group he had out there...

Truly amazing.
RE: So this was  
Brown_Hornet : 9/18/2019 8:32 pm : link
In comment 14586650 bw in dc said:
Quote:
In other words, Eli is the highest paid QB coach in the history of the NFL.

This organization is just the best.

Just stop.
To me this was the best comment that many could learn from  
Eric on Li : 9/18/2019 8:35 pm : link
(the follow-up question/comment, first question just for context)
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Q: You knew this was a possibility, but did you ever think it would be a possibility after two games?
A: I didnít know how everything was going to shake out this year. You just know when you draft a young quarterback, thereís a possibility that theyíre going to play him if things donít go well. We didnít start fast, and thatís the situation weíre in now.

Q: Would you have wanted to come back here if you knew it was only going to be a two-game trial?
A: Yeah, I think you give it a shot, and Iíve worked hard, competed, did everything I thought I could, and it just didnít work out.


Lots of people talk about "leaving it all on the field", very few actually do so even when things don't go their way. Unlike the last administration I think both sides handled this transition pretty well. Just being a fly on the wall to how classily Eli has handled this will be a good experience for Jones (and ironically not dissimilar to how Kurt Warner handled things Eli's rookie year).
RE: .  
Rjanyg : 9/18/2019 8:45 pm : link
In comment 14586836 arcarsenal said:
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The epitome of class. From start to finish, Eli did it the right way and he'll always be a champion. Two fucking times over.

That's my QB.

Daniel has some big shoes to fill; but I'll be pulling for him just as hard as I pulled for 23 year old Eli when he took the field against Atlanta in November of 2004.


Amen. I feel lucky to have been at Eliís first start against the Falcons. His first TD was to Shockey. That place went wild!
RE: .  
Rjanyg : 9/18/2019 8:46 pm : link
In comment 14586836 arcarsenal said:
Quote:
The epitome of class. From start to finish, Eli did it the right way and he'll always be a champion. Two fucking times over.

That's my QB.

Daniel has some big shoes to fill; but I'll be pulling for him just as hard as I pulled for 23 year old Eli when he took the field against Atlanta in November of 2004.


Amen. I feel lucky to have been at Eliís first start against the Falcons. His first TD was to Shockey. That place went wild!

Ironically, TJ Jones who caught the TD vs Buffalo now wears 80. Crazy.
One of the best follows on Twitter  
arniefez : 9/18/2019 9:30 pm : link
Sage Rosenfels
@SageRosenfels18

Any NFL player (non-kicker) that starts for 16 years for the same team, and doesnít miss a start because of injury, should be in the Hall of Fame.

That shit is super human.
I found  
Les in TO : 9/19/2019 6:21 am : link
It interesting that he gave a non-answer to the question about whether he feels misled based on offseason conversations with Mara Gettleman and coach
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