Pretty much echoes my sentiments about Daniel Jones and the fit for this offense. Says we'll see DJ under center quite a bit.
Lots of people here are why haven't we seen Eli a ton under center? Well because you can't run outside stretch runs or bootleg playaction with Eli because he can't move. So if you are under center you are practically telegraphing you are running the ball inside the tackles or not running outside zone, which PS before he came here loved to run, and Saquon will feast with his unreal vision.
I think people are going to be very surprised to see our offense perform. DJ is going to turn the ball over, but that comes with starting a rookie a QB. At least we'll move the ball on offense. This is going to look like a brand new offense.
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I think that was to build his confidence as a passer. He also clearly needed work as he fumbled an exchange on an outside stretch run. He's had time to practice now, but he's a good athlete he'll pick it up fast.
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Majority of his plays this preseason were from the shotgun. In fact, he only passed 3 times from under center utilizing play-action. The scouting report is that if he is under center, it will likely be a hand-off. Most of his passing is from the shotgun. I hope it isn't so predictable in Tampa as it is a recipe for disaster for a defense to pick up on the cues on a rookie QB's first start.
I think that was to build his confidence as a passer. He also clearly needed work as he fumbled an exchange on an outside stretch run. He's had time to practice now, but he's a good athlete he'll pick it up fast.
The shotgun passing won't go away and you are right that it was used to build confidence. The Giants are very sensitive to the public perception of DJ from the draft backlash. My complaint with Shurmur in the preseason is that there was no turning of the screw with regards to increasing the complexity of the offensive playcalls for DJ. While I wasn't expecting Pat to throw DJ into the deep end, I was expecting the swimmies to be taken off in the Bengals game.
With DJ's first start in Tampa, I expect more of the same that we saw in the preseason. Pat is not going to open up the full playbook with DJ's first start. I hope we see 20+ touches for Barkley, but I won't be surprised if he doesn't as Pat seems to forget about Barkley by the 3rd quarter.
Not knocking OP or anyone. I also agree, DJ could make a much bigger immediate difference given his skill set. And I get not moving Eli all around (as they did some this season). But slow QBs 'can't run stretch plays' or 'play from under center / PAs' - not sure I get that exactly...
If Jones can pick up a couple of first downs a week with his feet that adds more plays and chances that we just didnt get before. On top of that Barkley should get more free route ops now as slight fakes, full play fakes and Jones Rollouts should slow the defense from keying on SB in the backfield, unsure of where the ball actually is.
What do you mean? Chris Simms is known for always wearing his top button buttoned up. His podcasts is a play on that reputation in that "loosens up" or is unbuttoned.
He made specific reference to Bengals LBs running the wrong way on their run fits.
I wouldn't bet on Eli in a race, but outside of JW wouldn't say the rest are SO much more athletic they can call outside runs, but Eli can't. There isn't THAT big an athletic difference even if he's bringing up the rear (and why I mentioned the even lesser athletes like Bledsoe), esp discussing 3-4-5 step drops, not long sprints...
Plus Tiki ran a TON of stretch plays, even w/ Warner's even less mobile ass iirc. I recall debates of how Jacobs shouldn't be running stretches / outside as much post Tiki given his style (not QB's footspeed). But they didn't stop calling them (esp w/ AB). Nor have we come across the idea Eli has fallen off a huge athletic cliff. So why is this so preventative now, but not b4 for him or a slew of similar QBs (were Carson Palmer O's limited to inside runs?). We've known the run game issues w/ the OL & RB for yrs, but first we're hearing Eli or QB's athleticism preventing outside run calls
If that was the case, Eli would have been run out of town 4-5 yrs ago. If a QB prevents half or more of the RB run playcalls, he shouldn't be an NFL QB. Not sure I buy that part in this context. Again not a knock on you or anyone else Zeke, I just don't see it
If Eli really IS this far behind, how has he been QB for the last 4-5 yrs (aside from complaints on his throws, decision-making, pocket presence)? Also we haven't seen a big drop in his athleticism so it's curious why today this is an issue, but rarely mentioned w/ all the run game problems b4 (weak OL, RBs, playcall sure - but Eli MUST have been a huge part of the problem if true). Seems impossible to have a QB who limits your run plays to the inside the tackles to this level. Would be an ever bigger indictment to the FO / GM / coaches etc, but we never really heard it til now
Maybe it's right - and if so it's WAY beyond time Eli was canned. I just don't see it this way tho
RPO or QB option then yeah Eli would be beyond terrible at those because the Defense would not respect the choice of him keeping it but stretch runs have no bearing on a QBs athleticism.