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Is Eli the classiest athlete NY has ever seen?

yatqb : 9/19/2019 9:46 am
Jeter (who I loved) had a great public persona too, but I think that Eli is the least egotistical player that I've ever known. All class.
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Saquon has all the makings...  
Chris684 : 9/19/2019 10:14 am : link
all he needs to do is continue what he's doing.
Frank Gifford...  
BamaBlue : 9/19/2019 10:19 am : link
was the guy most Giants fans recognized as "Mr. Giant" until he got caught between the sheets with a stewardess.

I can easily see Eli in the role of "Mr. Giant" and maybe even the modern day "Mr. New York" athlete. Someone mentioned Lou Gehrig... There are a lot of similarities between the Iron Horse and Eli.
RE: There are other guys in the running.  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/19/2019 10:20 am : link
In comment 14587477 Maryland Giant said:
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But Jeter? I think there is a good bit of evidence that Jeter was more than a bit arrogant, smug, and self-centered. The antithesis of Eli.

I'm a Yankee fan who doesn't like Jeter, he's a bit of a bish.
I would add George Martin to the list  
steve in ky : 9/19/2019 10:20 am : link
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Jeter always came across  
gmenatlarge : 9/19/2019 10:21 am : link
as kind of phony to me in the same way Brady does. I get it. it's the smart thing to do with the amount of press these guys get so I don't blame him.
I can imagine that you're a joy...  
BamaBlue : 9/19/2019 10:22 am : link
In comment 14587463 rocco8112 said:
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RE: Tell you one thing if I was Eli I would not be as gracious. I would likely tell Jones, "... good luck rook, its all yours now I am sure coach has it all figured out.."


… among your friends at work. A real team player, willing to go the extra mile.

Mariano Rivera is #1 in my book  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2019 10:23 am : link
As humble a superstar as has ever graced a field.
RE: Mess..  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2019 10:25 am : link
In comment 14587474 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I thought was 5 years here. Could be wrong.


Messier was a Ranger from 1991-96 and then again from 2000-04.
RE: There are other guys in the running.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2019 10:25 am : link
In comment 14587477 Maryland Giant said:
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But Jeter? I think there is a good bit of evidence that Jeter was more than a bit arrogant, smug, and self-centered. The antithesis of Eli.


I still don't understand the Jeter love. Guy is the fakest guy in sports. I get why Yankees fans love him because of what he did on the field for him, but they are delusional when it comes to how he actually is.
Jeter was great at keeping all of his activities largely quiet  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/19/2019 10:26 am : link
Eli's a bit more genuine, I think.
Mo is a great call.  
yatqb : 9/19/2019 10:27 am : link
As I said earlier, Jeter carried himself excellently in the public arena, but seemed to have much more ego than Eli.
Jeter had more than a bit of Joe DiMaggio to him  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2019 10:30 am : link
A man who said all the right things, did all the right public things as a Yankee, but was rather arrogant and had a vindictive streak. If you got on his bad side, you were permanently frozen out. Neither was the forgiving type.
RE: Jeter had more than a bit of Joe DiMaggio to him  
yatqb : 9/19/2019 10:36 am : link
In comment 14587595 Greg from LI said:
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A man who said all the right things, did all the right public things as a Yankee, but was rather arrogant and had a vindictive streak. If you got on his bad side, you were permanently frozen out. Neither was the forgiving type.


Agreed, Greg.
DiMaggio  
jeff57 : 9/19/2019 10:39 am : link
?
For the negative Jeter commenters in here..  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/19/2019 10:46 am : link
I think you're letting his Marlins tenure and behavior during it have too much of an impact on your memory of the player.

Take yourself back. The guy was the epitome of class. One of the finest players to ever wear the uniform. Led by example. Never bashed teammates or coaches. Derek Jeter is the only possible answer to this question if you're not going to take Eli.
RE: For the negative Jeter commenters in here..  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2019 10:50 am : link
In comment 14587640 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I think you're letting his Marlins tenure and behavior during it have too much of an impact on your memory of the player.

Take yourself back. The guy was the epitome of class. One of the finest players to ever wear the uniform. Led by example. Never bashed teammates or coaches. Derek Jeter is the only possible answer to this question if you're not going to take Eli.


Um, no. I've been saying this about Jeter for at least a decade. The signs have been there for a long time, but most people were blinded to them by their Yankee fandom.

Mariano Rivera is a much better choice than Jeter.
RE: For the negative Jeter commenters in here..  
Motley Two : 9/19/2019 10:57 am : link
In comment 14587640 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I think you're letting his Marlins tenure and behavior during it have too much of an impact on your memory of the player.

Take yourself back. The guy was the epitome of class. One of the finest players to ever wear the uniform. Led by example. Never bashed teammates or coaches. Derek Jeter is the only possible answer to this question if you're not going to take Eli.


Plus he had gift baskets waiting in the limo service for all the fine ass he crushed over the years.
Jeter was brilliant as presenting himself as the humble, classy hero..  
Tesla : 9/19/2019 11:03 am : link
but those who followed him and the Yankee closely knew that behind the scenes he was a very different person. Vindictive and a massive egomaniac.

It's really telling how he and A-Rod's reputations have split following their retirements.
I realize he's well before any of our times,  
Mad Mike : 9/19/2019 11:08 am : link
but Lou Gehrig deserves much more than the few mentions he's gotten in this thread.

As for Jeter, wonderful ball player, good in front of a microphone, great face of the franchise, but c'mon. After the jump throw, his best skill was probably keeping a lot of his behavior out of the papers.
I'll take Eli  
arniefez : 9/19/2019 11:11 am : link
just slightly over Mariano because the NFL life is so much more difficult than the MLB life. Some other good ones mentioned on this thread. But Jeter doesn't belong on it.
Yes  
regulator : 9/19/2019 11:15 am : link
His character plus the position he played, the success he had, his longevity and the environment around him make it so for me. For all but a brief window, he always faced a generally negative national media narrative, and never once voiced the kind of frustration with it that would have been totally justified.

In my lifetime, the only NY who compares with those credentials, in my view, is Mo. Even though he was the greatest closer ever, it's admittedly more of a niche role --though hugely important-- than an NFL quarterback.
Billy Martin?  
PatersonPlank : 9/19/2019 11:37 am : link
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Some Names From the Past,  
clatterbuck : 9/19/2019 11:40 am : link
Pee Wee Reese and Jackie Robinson, Conerly,Tittle, and Kyle Rote, Arthur Ashe, Dave Jennings, Dave DeBusschere, Tom Seaver.
RE: RE: For the negative Jeter commenters in here..  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2019 11:40 am : link
In comment 14587676 Motley Two said:
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In comment 14587640 Mike in Long Beach said:


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I think you're letting his Marlins tenure and behavior during it have too much of an impact on your memory of the player.

Take yourself back. The guy was the epitome of class. One of the finest players to ever wear the uniform. Led by example. Never bashed teammates or coaches. Derek Jeter is the only possible answer to this question if you're not going to take Eli.



Plus he had gift baskets waiting in the limo service for all the fine ass he crushed over the years.


Hope those gift baskets came with Valtrex.
There have been a lot of them mentioned here  
ShockNRoll : 9/19/2019 11:40 am : link
but Henrik Lundqvist's name needs to be added to the list. He's been a model citizen on and off the ice, excellent in the community, and you can tell he genuinely loves his team and city.
hmm  
giantfan2000 : 9/19/2019 11:51 am : link
Eli is not a Saint
McAdoo was kind enough to let Eli know there was going to be a QB transition
Eli bench himself rather than do what HC asked him to do
hardly a team player
Eli did not  
HoustonGiant : 9/19/2019 12:01 pm : link
give herpes to Jessica Alba.
RE: Messier..  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/19/2019 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14587453 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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wasn't here all that long either.

For me, it has been Jeter, Mattingly, Carson and Van Biesbrouck.

I think Rivera and Bernie need to be on that list too, but I can't argue with any of those.
Lou Gehrig fairly easily imo  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/19/2019 12:29 pm : link
Eli has been great though and probably only 2nd to Mo from who I’ve seen.
I'd definitely put Mike Piazza on the list.  
Section331 : 9/19/2019 12:37 pm : link
I have a friend who donates her time to Ronald McDonald House, and she said that Piazza would show up and spend hours with the kids, without any press around.

Eli is in that mold, with all of the charity work he has done and continues to do.
RE: For the negative Jeter commenters in here..  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/19/2019 12:41 pm : link
In comment 14587640 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I think you're letting his Marlins tenure and behavior during it have too much of an impact on your memory of the player.

Take yourself back. The guy was the epitome of class. One of the finest players to ever wear the uniform. Led by example. Never bashed teammates or coaches. Derek Jeter is the only possible answer to this question if you're not going to take Eli.

Meh. Mr. Team Player wouldn't move off SS even when the Yankees acquired a superior defensive shortstop.

Don't kid yourself into thinking Jeter didn't have an egotistical streak. Rivera is definitely ahead of Jeter when it comes to this conversation, IMO. I'm not saying Jeter wasn't classy - he was, and he certainly understood the value of discretion in the public eye. But to say "Jeter is the only possible answer..."? Uh, no.
RE: Some Names From the Past,  
FJ : 9/19/2019 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14587799 clatterbuck said:
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Pee Wee Reese and Jackie Robinson, Conerly,Tittle, and Kyle Rote, Arthur Ashe, Dave Jennings, Dave DeBusschere, Tom Seaver.


I was going to mention Dave Jennings as well. Not a superstar, but a genuine, likable person.
Some other Classy NY athletes  
DavidinBMNY : 9/19/2019 12:53 pm : link
Adam Graves was very involved in the community.
Harry Carson is a pretty classy guy.
Winfield and Mattingly from the 80's
Al Leiter , Gary Cater, Mike Piazza

Eli is at or near the top of the list but NY has had a number of classy athletes mentioned by others.

If your in company with Eli, you did or are doing something right.
Eli, Jeter and Tom Seaver  
Torrag : 9/19/2019 12:55 pm : link
Top 3 class acts in NY sports history.
Is there a reason  
Mike from SI : 9/19/2019 12:56 pm : link
people aren't bringing up DiMaggio?
Jeter was very image conscious  
Vanzetti : 9/19/2019 1:03 pm : link
He was PR “classy” Look
At what he has done with Marlins.

To me, Mariano was the real deal. Always behaved in s dignified manner.

Others

Mookie Wilson
Henrik
Harry Carson
Bill Bradley
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Danny Kanell : 9/19/2019 1:15 pm : link
For sincere class and humility in great NY athletes it's Mo and Eli for me, at least in my lifetime. Curtis Martin and Adam Graves are up there too. I think the next group could be Judge, Alonso and Saquon.
Clyde  
Chris in San Diego : 9/19/2019 1:16 pm : link
Was the man!!
.  
Danny Kanell : 9/19/2019 1:18 pm : link
With Jeter, I think he did everything right in the public eye but it was calculated, not natural. He had/has a massive ego.
definitely..  
AndyMilligan : 9/19/2019 1:24 pm : link
the most likable,
RE: hmm  
BillKo : 9/19/2019 1:36 pm : link
In comment 14587818 giantfan2000 said:
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Eli is not a Saint
McAdoo was kind enough to let Eli know there was going to be a QB transition
Eli bench himself rather than do what HC asked him to do
hardly a team player


I think it was pretty classy of Eli to give the new QB the entire game, rather than to keep a streak alive.

Half ass plan by Mac, literally.
RE: Is there a reason  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/19/2019 1:55 pm : link
In comment 14587997 Mike from SI said:
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people aren't bringing up DiMaggio?


There are two things that I didn't like about DiMaggio.

The way he treated Mantle was poor. He did not like the fact that "The Next Big Thing" was coming and was going to take away attention from himself. He felt threatened by Mantle and was not a good mentor.

The way he demanded to be called "The Greatest Living Ballplayer" after his career was over. Just an insanely egotistical move. Especially since he was never worthy of that title.
No.  
Matt M. : 9/19/2019 2:32 pm : link
I would say Mariano Rivera, at least in my lifetime.
RE: Jeter had more than a bit of Joe DiMaggio to him  
Matt M. : 9/19/2019 2:33 pm : link
In comment 14587595 Greg from LI said:
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A man who said all the right things, did all the right public things as a Yankee, but was rather arrogant and had a vindictive streak. If you got on his bad side, you were permanently frozen out. Neither was the forgiving type.
You could argue DiMaggio didn't always say the right things, at least not like Jeter.
RE: RE: Is there a reason  
Matt M. : 9/19/2019 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14588131 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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In comment 14587997 Mike from SI said:


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people aren't bringing up DiMaggio?



There are two things that I didn't like about DiMaggio.

The way he treated Mantle was poor. He did not like the fact that "The Next Big Thing" was coming and was going to take away attention from himself. He felt threatened by Mantle and was not a good mentor.

The way he demanded to be called "The Greatest Living Ballplayer" after his career was over. Just an insanely egotistical move. Especially since he was never worthy of that title.
A big reason people aren't saying DiMaggio is he wasn't very classy. He was known to be a big prick and a lot has come out since his death to that end. I read a book, I forget by whom, that did not paint him in a positive light at all.
Gehrig maybe not...  
JINTin Adirondacks : 9/19/2019 5:05 pm : link
Saw a Documentary several years ago that interviewed several teammates of both Gehrig and Babe and they said Ruth was so open and giving to fans especially the kids in every city and Gehrig couldn't be bothered he just ignored them.
Totally disagree with Seaver  
Kevin999 : 9/19/2019 5:41 pm : link
and I'm a Mets fan. Great pitcher but a total a-hole in real life. There are many example of stuff like him agreeing to go to the Boy Scouts, then cancelling without notice to go to a "nicer" dinner etc. I heard stories of him sending the gardener over to the country club by his house to ask for free fertilizer etc so he wouldn't have to pay for it. No class at all.
As mentioned by a few others, Adam Graves is nothing but class.
Matt  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2019 5:57 pm : link
I mean publicly. He played the media well, like Jeter did.

The book you're think of was Richard Ben Cramer's.
It's no dig at Eli, I don't think it's humanly possible  
jcn56 : 9/19/2019 6:06 pm : link
to be more classy than Mo. I've heard first hand from people who do charity work how selfless Rivera is, both from a time and a financial perspective. Really great to see someone so supremely talented also be so humble.
Nice to see Gehrig getting his due.  
Reese's Pieces : 9/20/2019 1:43 am : link
"The luckiest man on the face of the earth."

Very classy for one diagnosed with one of the worst diseases a man can die from.

Voted the best first baseman of all time by the baseball writers' association.

Catfish Hunter was brought to Yank's spring training facility, suffering from ALS, in the hopes that being around the ballplayers would raise his mood. But all he could do was cry.
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