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Is Eli the classiest athlete NY has ever seen?

yatqb : 9/19/2019 9:46 am
Jeter (who I loved) had a great public persona too, but I think that Eli is the least egotistical player that I've ever known. All class.
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Most likely,  
Big Blue '56 : 9/19/2019 9:50 am : link
Mays could have been, but wasnít here long enough, Willis Reed is up there as is Messier, imo..
Messier..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/19/2019 9:52 am : link
wasn't here all that long either.

For me, it has been Jeter, Mattingly, Carson and Van Biesbrouck.
I think so...  
bw in dc : 9/19/2019 9:54 am : link
I have had a lot of issues with Eli but there is absolutely no doubt he's a very good person.

I might throw Mike Bossy in there. I was was very, very young when the Islanders were a powerhouse, but Bossy always seemed like the most humble guy for a superstar.
Bernie Williams  
Dave in PA : 9/19/2019 9:54 am : link
Should make the list as well
Tell you one thing  
rocco8112 : 9/19/2019 9:54 am : link
if I was Eli I would not be as gracious. I would likely tell Jones, "... good luck rook, its all yours now I am sure coach has it alk figured out.."

He almost seems too gracious about the whole thing. Just once I would like to know how Eli really feels.

I did love his quote from the press conference about how in football you do what you are told etc. Refreshing this day and age. He is a bigger man than me though, I would be bitter about it and let Jones stink or swim on his own. Laugh too when the likely situation arises that Eli has to come off the pine.
Wasnít Messier  
Big Blue '56 : 9/19/2019 9:55 am : link
here for a total of 10 years or more?
Mess..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/19/2019 9:57 am : link
I thought was 5 years here. Could be wrong.
There are other guys in the running.  
Maryland Giant : 9/19/2019 9:58 am : link
But Jeter? I think there is a good bit of evidence that Jeter was more than a bit arrogant, smug, and self-centered. The antithesis of Eli.
Maybe Lou Gehrig  
Steve in ATL : 9/19/2019 9:59 am : link
should be in the conversation.
love these threads, lol.  
Enzo : 9/19/2019 10:00 am : link
with so many teams here, there's been no shortage of high character/high profile athletes in NY over the years. Curtis Martin, Bernie Williams, Mo Rivera, David Wright, Mattingly, Adam Graves, Mike Richter, Bobby Murcer, Matsui, and countless others.
Difficult to answer without clarity of many things  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/19/2019 10:02 am : link
My guess is there have been many extremely classy athletes and difficult to determine. I think lack of media exposure, performance (not being great maybe just pretty good), position probably is why we do not of them as much.

Even if we said it had to be a "star" I am sure there were quite a few in the history of NY sports but for many reasons we know little about.
RE: love these threads, lol.  
bw in dc : 9/19/2019 10:02 am : link
In comment 14587484 Enzo said:
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with so many teams here, there's been no shortage of high character/high profile athletes in NY over the years. Curtis Martin, Bernie Williams, Mo Rivera, David Wright, Mattingly, Adam Graves, Mike Richter, Bobby Murcer, Matsui, and countless others.


Curtis Martin is a good call, too...
Hard to put anyone above him  
ron mexico : 9/19/2019 10:03 am : link
I shared this story before but I saw him at a local bagel shop in his hometown. On his way out he made sure to say good bye to a special needs adult eating there that he must have met before. It was kinda funny as he had to call out to him a few time to get his attention when all the other guys in the room were watching his every move and wishing it was them he was talking to (at least I was)

His persona is not an act for the cameras. Not that anyone thinks that.
Mo..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/19/2019 10:03 am : link
is a really good call too.
I think the disclaimer should be high profile  
Chris684 : 9/19/2019 10:04 am : link
as the higher profile you are the more temptation for trouble/distraction/misbehavior there seems to be.

Mariano Rivera is the first guy I think of right up there with Eli.

A couple of Mets come to mind.

Mike Piazza and David Wright

Lundquist

Obviously well before my time but Lou Gehrig from everything you hear/read about.



Curtis Martin a very good one  
Chris684 : 9/19/2019 10:04 am : link
....
Chad Pennington  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/19/2019 10:08 am : link
always seemed like a classy dude.
Just as a reminder  
jamison884 : 9/19/2019 10:09 am : link
He was nominated as the lone NYG for NFL Man of the Year multiple times and won it one year (google if interested). So, yes, he embraced NY/NJ and his fan base tremendously while representing the organization near flawlessly.

What I noticed yesterday while watching the interviews with Eli and DJ, they have a tremendous similarity in their attitude, laid back approach, and even how they answer questions. It was a bit erie actually. Notice for example how they often end a short sentence with an "um" or "uh" sound to give them a little extra time to select the proper words with consideration of how their statements come off to the fans and media.
Yes.  
Beezer : 9/19/2019 10:09 am : link
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For the amount of pressure he was under,  
Giantgator : 9/19/2019 10:11 am : link
and his genuineness on and off the field, I'd agree with Eli. I'd also put Bill Bradley up there.
David Wright was pretty classy  
figgy2989 : 9/19/2019 10:11 am : link
However, when it comes to class, there was no one better than Adam Graves. Even all these years later all he does for the community and how he is still involved in the Rangers organization.
Saquon has all the makings...  
Chris684 : 9/19/2019 10:14 am : link
all he needs to do is continue what he's doing.
Frank Gifford...  
BamaBlue : 9/19/2019 10:19 am : link
was the guy most Giants fans recognized as "Mr. Giant" until he got caught between the sheets with a stewardess.

I can easily see Eli in the role of "Mr. Giant" and maybe even the modern day "Mr. New York" athlete. Someone mentioned Lou Gehrig... There are a lot of similarities between the Iron Horse and Eli.
RE: There are other guys in the running.  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/19/2019 10:20 am : link
In comment 14587477 Maryland Giant said:
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But Jeter? I think there is a good bit of evidence that Jeter was more than a bit arrogant, smug, and self-centered. The antithesis of Eli.

I'm a Yankee fan who doesn't like Jeter, he's a bit of a bish.
I would add George Martin to the list  
steve in ky : 9/19/2019 10:20 am : link
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Jeter always came across  
gmenatlarge : 9/19/2019 10:21 am : link
as kind of phony to me in the same way Brady does. I get it. it's the smart thing to do with the amount of press these guys get so I don't blame him.
I can imagine that you're a joy...  
BamaBlue : 9/19/2019 10:22 am : link
In comment 14587463 rocco8112 said:
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RE: Tell you one thing if I was Eli I would not be as gracious. I would likely tell Jones, "... good luck rook, its all yours now I am sure coach has it all figured out.."


Ö among your friends at work. A real team player, willing to go the extra mile.

Mariano Rivera is #1 in my book  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2019 10:23 am : link
As humble a superstar as has ever graced a field.
RE: Mess..  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2019 10:25 am : link
In comment 14587474 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I thought was 5 years here. Could be wrong.


Messier was a Ranger from 1991-96 and then again from 2000-04.
RE: There are other guys in the running.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2019 10:25 am : link
In comment 14587477 Maryland Giant said:
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But Jeter? I think there is a good bit of evidence that Jeter was more than a bit arrogant, smug, and self-centered. The antithesis of Eli.


I still don't understand the Jeter love. Guy is the fakest guy in sports. I get why Yankees fans love him because of what he did on the field for him, but they are delusional when it comes to how he actually is.
Jeter was great at keeping all of his activities largely quiet  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/19/2019 10:26 am : link
Eli's a bit more genuine, I think.
Mo is a great call.  
yatqb : 9/19/2019 10:27 am : link
As I said earlier, Jeter carried himself excellently in the public arena, but seemed to have much more ego than Eli.
Jeter had more than a bit of Joe DiMaggio to him  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2019 10:30 am : link
A man who said all the right things, did all the right public things as a Yankee, but was rather arrogant and had a vindictive streak. If you got on his bad side, you were permanently frozen out. Neither was the forgiving type.
RE: Jeter had more than a bit of Joe DiMaggio to him  
yatqb : 9/19/2019 10:36 am : link
In comment 14587595 Greg from LI said:
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A man who said all the right things, did all the right public things as a Yankee, but was rather arrogant and had a vindictive streak. If you got on his bad side, you were permanently frozen out. Neither was the forgiving type.


Agreed, Greg.
DiMaggio  
jeff57 : 9/19/2019 10:39 am : link
?
For the negative Jeter commenters in here..  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/19/2019 10:46 am : link
I think you're letting his Marlins tenure and behavior during it have too much of an impact on your memory of the player.

Take yourself back. The guy was the epitome of class. One of the finest players to ever wear the uniform. Led by example. Never bashed teammates or coaches. Derek Jeter is the only possible answer to this question if you're not going to take Eli.
RE: For the negative Jeter commenters in here..  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2019 10:50 am : link
In comment 14587640 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I think you're letting his Marlins tenure and behavior during it have too much of an impact on your memory of the player.

Take yourself back. The guy was the epitome of class. One of the finest players to ever wear the uniform. Led by example. Never bashed teammates or coaches. Derek Jeter is the only possible answer to this question if you're not going to take Eli.


Um, no. I've been saying this about Jeter for at least a decade. The signs have been there for a long time, but most people were blinded to them by their Yankee fandom.

Mariano Rivera is a much better choice than Jeter.
RE: For the negative Jeter commenters in here..  
Motley Two : 9/19/2019 10:57 am : link
In comment 14587640 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I think you're letting his Marlins tenure and behavior during it have too much of an impact on your memory of the player.

Take yourself back. The guy was the epitome of class. One of the finest players to ever wear the uniform. Led by example. Never bashed teammates or coaches. Derek Jeter is the only possible answer to this question if you're not going to take Eli.


Plus he had gift baskets waiting in the limo service for all the fine ass he crushed over the years.
Jeter was brilliant as presenting himself as the humble, classy hero..  
Tesla : 9/19/2019 11:03 am : link
but those who followed him and the Yankee closely knew that behind the scenes he was a very different person. Vindictive and a massive egomaniac.

It's really telling how he and A-Rod's reputations have split following their retirements.
I realize he's well before any of our times,  
Mad Mike : 9/19/2019 11:08 am : link
but Lou Gehrig deserves much more than the few mentions he's gotten in this thread.

As for Jeter, wonderful ball player, good in front of a microphone, great face of the franchise, but c'mon. After the jump throw, his best skill was probably keeping a lot of his behavior out of the papers.
I'll take Eli  
arniefez : 9/19/2019 11:11 am : link
just slightly over Mariano because the NFL life is so much more difficult than the MLB life. Some other good ones mentioned on this thread. But Jeter doesn't belong on it.
Yes  
regulator : 9/19/2019 11:15 am : link
His character plus the position he played, the success he had, his longevity and the environment around him make it so for me. For all but a brief window, he always faced a generally negative national media narrative, and never once voiced the kind of frustration with it that would have been totally justified.

In my lifetime, the only NY who compares with those credentials, in my view, is Mo. Even though he was the greatest closer ever, it's admittedly more of a niche role --though hugely important-- than an NFL quarterback.
Billy Martin?  
PatersonPlank : 9/19/2019 11:37 am : link
.
Some Names From the Past,  
clatterbuck : 9/19/2019 11:40 am : link
Pee Wee Reese and Jackie Robinson, Conerly,Tittle, and Kyle Rote, Arthur Ashe, Dave Jennings, Dave DeBusschere, Tom Seaver.
RE: RE: For the negative Jeter commenters in here..  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2019 11:40 am : link
In comment 14587676 Motley Two said:
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In comment 14587640 Mike in Long Beach said:


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I think you're letting his Marlins tenure and behavior during it have too much of an impact on your memory of the player.

Take yourself back. The guy was the epitome of class. One of the finest players to ever wear the uniform. Led by example. Never bashed teammates or coaches. Derek Jeter is the only possible answer to this question if you're not going to take Eli.



Plus he had gift baskets waiting in the limo service for all the fine ass he crushed over the years.


Hope those gift baskets came with Valtrex.
There have been a lot of them mentioned here  
ShockNRoll : 9/19/2019 11:40 am : link
but Henrik Lundqvist's name needs to be added to the list. He's been a model citizen on and off the ice, excellent in the community, and you can tell he genuinely loves his team and city.
hmm  
giantfan2000 : 9/19/2019 11:51 am : link
Eli is not a Saint
McAdoo was kind enough to let Eli know there was going to be a QB transition
Eli bench himself rather than do what HC asked him to do
hardly a team player
Eli did not  
HoustonGiant : 9/19/2019 12:01 pm : link
give herpes to Jessica Alba.
RE: Messier..  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/19/2019 12:14 pm : link
In comment 14587453 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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wasn't here all that long either.

For me, it has been Jeter, Mattingly, Carson and Van Biesbrouck.

I think Rivera and Bernie need to be on that list too, but I can't argue with any of those.
Lou Gehrig fairly easily imo  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/19/2019 12:29 pm : link
Eli has been great though and probably only 2nd to Mo from who Iíve seen.
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