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Shurmur cancels weekly spot with Francesa

ryanmkeane : 9/19/2019 10:13 am
First Eli...now the coach. Seems like Mike is losing everyone in the organization after he has bashed them for the past year.
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Well for anyone who heard that interview on Monday  
figgy2989 : 9/19/2019 10:15 am : link
This shouldn't come as a surprise. Mike lit him up and wouldn't let him answer any of his questions.

For whatever monetary amount he was getting for doing these weekly shows, it couldn't be worth it.

There is more to this story...has to be  
Chris684 : 9/19/2019 10:15 am : link
Francesa has LOVED the New York Giants as an organization over the years.

You can't tell me this is all just because they took a quarterback in the draft.
Surprised it lasted this long.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/19/2019 10:16 am : link
Mike just wants to tawk Yanks bullpen arms anyway.
Can..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/19/2019 10:16 am : link
we get the same entertainment value from this that we did when Eli cancelled????
Weak from Shurmur  
Oscar : 9/19/2019 10:16 am : link
Take your lumps, it’s a big boy job.
RE: Can..  
figgy2989 : 9/19/2019 10:17 am : link
In comment 14587524 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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we get the same entertainment value from this that we did when Eli cancelled????


You better believe come 3PM today, Mike is going to go on a long epilogue of Giants bashing.
Good move by Shurmur  
gmenatlarge : 9/19/2019 10:17 am : link
who gives a shit about Francesa, focus on the team and the new QB, that's enough on his plate.
Nevermind  
figgy2989 : 9/19/2019 10:17 am : link
You meant on BBI! Sorry, misread it.
Its one thing to be a tough interview  
Metnut : 9/19/2019 10:18 am : link
Francessa used to actually be good at this a while ago. Its a whole other thing to completely just run over and yell at the interviewee and not let the interviewee answer questions.

DG and PS havn't exactly lit things on fire since coming here, but it's not productive for NYG to have our coach come on the air and get destroyed by Francessa each week.
Oscar  
ryanmkeane : 9/19/2019 10:18 am : link
that's bullshit. Mike has trashed the GM and the owner repeatedly. Why would you give Mike that time of day if you worked for those people?
Don't blame him....Mike has been bashing this new regime just because  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2019 10:19 am : link
they cut off his access.
I'm sure Da Pope  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/19/2019 10:19 am : link
will react calmly & reasonably to this news...
Shurmur  
MookGiants : 9/19/2019 10:19 am : link
is nothing short of a total disaster as a head coach. Hopefully the Giants arent dumb enough to bring him back. Then again they did hire him in the first place.
Mike crossed the line  
ron mexico : 9/19/2019 10:19 am : link
when he cited his career record and asked him why he is the guy to turn it around.

Thats not the type of question you pop on a weekly call in segment.
Who was that guy that had an asshat meltdown with Eric  
V.I.G. : 9/19/2019 10:19 am : link
on Francesa and the Eli spot
...  
ryanmkeane : 9/19/2019 10:19 am : link
and by the way, Eli canceling his spot had nothing to do with answering questions. It had everything to do with Mike trashing the organization that Eli has loved since day 1.
RE: There is more to this story...has to be  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2019 10:19 am : link
In comment 14587522 Chris684 said:
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Francesa has LOVED the New York Giants as an organization over the years.

You can't tell me this is all just because they took a quarterback in the draft.


Francesa loved them because Parcells gave him tons of access and that continued throughout the years.
RE: I'm sure Da Pope  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2019 10:20 am : link
In comment 14587544 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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will react calmly & reasonably to this news...


Lol.
Its one thing to ask tough questions but Francessa  
Blue Dream : 9/19/2019 10:20 am : link
Was just railing one him telling him how much his team sucked, he wasn't even asking questions. Very unprofessional, don't blame him one bit
On the one hand, I applaud Shurmur for sticking it to Mike  
Essex : 9/19/2019 10:21 am : link
because he is such a blowhard who is so bad at his job that the mere fact that he criticizes other people at their jobs is hypocritical to me. And, of course, what is the point of going on if he is just going to be a prop for Mike to scream at.

On the other hand, I do agree that to cancel now seems weak. After all, it is no surprise who Francesca is and that he has this new vendetta against the Giants. The fact that you signed up for it, had to mean you knew what you were getting into. To walk away now, is just petty and weak.

RE: Who was that guy that had an asshat meltdown with Eric  
Chef : 9/19/2019 10:21 am : link
In comment 14587548 V.I.G. said:
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on Francesa and the Eli spot

Think it was jtgiants
RE: Don't blame him....Mike has been bashing this new regime just because  
MookGiants : 9/19/2019 10:21 am : link
In comment 14587543 Zeke's Alibi said:
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they cut off his access.


Maybe thats part of it, but this regime has been a shit show. They should be bashed in the media
Mook  
ryanmkeane : 9/19/2019 10:23 am : link
Gettleman was coming off a 3-13 season that he had absolutely, unequivocally, nothing to do with. The entire locker room was a shitshow.

They won 5 games in their first year and were a lot more competitive. Let's see where it goes from here.
They deserve criticism but Mike is a total fraud.  
bceagle05 : 9/19/2019 10:24 am : link
He's harsher on the Giants and their front office - who have two Super Bowls in the past 12 years - than he is on the Knicks and their front office, who have been a dumpster fire for 20 years. All because Jimmy Dolan gives him good seats to concerts at MSG.
RE: Mook  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/19/2019 10:25 am : link
In comment 14587570 ryanmkeane said:
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They won 5 games in their first year and were a lot more competitive. Let's see where it goes from here.


That's looking like fool's gold at this point.
This is one of those "a pox on all their houses" situations  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2019 10:26 am : link
I've never thought Francesa was anything but an arrogant blowhard, so I don't mind seeing him brought down a few pegs. On the other hand, everything about the Giants is a disaster.
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arcarsenal : 9/19/2019 10:28 am : link
The biggest thing this regime is going to be judged on is Jones. And that part of it is TBD.

If Jones is legit - the QB is in place, there's an elite RB still on a rookie contract, there's a lot of cap space opening up and more draft choices to improve the team with. Not a terrible spot to be in.

If Jones bombs, the team shows no improvement, and continues to look like a dumpster fire, then yeah... we're in terribly deep shit.

But for better or worse, what Daniel Jones becomes is going to be the thing these guys are either lauded for or destroyed for.

The clock starts Sunday.
TTH  
ryanmkeane : 9/19/2019 10:29 am : link
they've played two games, and now have a new QB. It's why you judge the GM on full seasons.
is there a link  
cjac : 9/19/2019 10:30 am : link
to the full interview from this past Monday?
Francesa  
rocco8112 : 9/19/2019 10:30 am : link
is an arrogant blowhard, I would say it was part of his act, but it likely is his true personality.

This is too bad as I like the Eli and HC spots. Seems weak too, the last interview was not that bad. Shu

McAdoo canceled too, this is the second coach in a row.
RE: .  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/19/2019 10:31 am : link
In comment 14587587 arcarsenal said:
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The biggest thing this regime is going to be judged on is Jones. And that part of it is TBD.

If Jones is legit - the QB is in place, there's an elite RB still on a rookie contract, there's a lot of cap space opening up and more draft choices to improve the team with. Not a terrible spot to be in.

If Jones bombs, the team shows no improvement, and continues to look like a dumpster fire, then yeah... we're in terribly deep shit.

But for better or worse, what Daniel Jones becomes is going to be the thing these guys are either lauded for or destroyed for.

The clock starts Sunday.


Amen brother. 4:05 Sunday can't come soon enough.
This comes off as soft  
ajr2456 : 9/19/2019 10:31 am : link
And coincidently right after he called out Gettleman and Mara for not speaking.
RE: Weak from Shurmur  
jvm52106 : 9/19/2019 10:32 am : link
In comment 14587527 Oscar said:
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Take your lumps, it’s a big boy job.


and the winner of the dumbest comment today...
Francesa is jusg looking for headlines at this point  
nygiants16 : 9/19/2019 10:33 am : link
he gets no ratings anymore and he is basically a joke at this point..

and lets be fair gettleman has rebuilt the offensive line, drafted a hall of fame runnjng back, his draft picks albeit very early have contributed except for 2..

If jones becomes the next franchise qb he succesfully helped the team for the next 15 years...

team is very young on defense..

Franfesa is butthurt because he had no idea who the giants were taking
So they draft the highest rated player ever  
RollBlue : 9/19/2019 10:34 am : link
due to picking second, have a relatively WR group (that was decimated by week 5 in the 3-13 year), sign a LT to record money, trade for a starting LB, the best they can do is 5-11 and that's called progress?
RE: Mike crossed the line  
ajr2456 : 9/19/2019 10:34 am : link
In comment 14587546 ron mexico said:
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when he cited his career record and asked him why he is the guy to turn it around.

Thats not the type of question you pop on a weekly call in segment.


That’s not a fair question?

Players get similar questions from media when they’re playing bad and we expect them to stand up there and answer them.
RE: RE: Who was that guy that had an asshat meltdown with Eric  
V.I.G. : 9/19/2019 10:34 am : link
In comment 14587560 Chef said:
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In comment 14587548 V.I.G. said:


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on Francesa and the Eli spot


Think it was jtgiants
Right!
RE: Francesa is jusg looking for headlines at this point  
Greg from LI : 9/19/2019 10:36 am : link
In comment 14587602 nygiants16 said:
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and lets be fair gettleman has rebuilt the offensive line, drafted a hall of fame runnjng back, his draft picks albeit very early have contributed except for 2..


The offensive line is improved. I wouldn't say it qualifies as above average. Solder is 31 and massively overpaid. Remmers is 30 and has a history of back problems. Zeitler was a good pickup but is 29. Halapio is 28 and has barely played before this season. It's not exactly built for the long haul.
After Monday  
jeff57 : 9/19/2019 10:37 am : link
That's no surprise.
Nobody should really have an issue with this.  
Brown Recluse : 9/19/2019 10:40 am : link
1. He's not contractually obligated to do it.

2. Francesa is a crybaby idiot who knows nothing about football and doesn't let anyone speak anyway.

The more people ignore Francesa, the more likely he'll finally go away.
Not really relevant but  
Blue Dream : 9/19/2019 10:40 am : link
interesting nonetheless, Tom Coughlin had done a weekly Monday Spot with Francessa and Russo from when he took over right up to week two in 2007, and discontinued it after starting 0-2. I think some good things followed. I don't think their was this kind of animosity back then though.
Francessa is such an ass  
Heisenberg : 9/19/2019 10:40 am : link
I don't blame Shurmur.
Why would he go on after this? - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Francesa is jusg looking for headlines at this point  
nygiants16 : 9/19/2019 10:40 am : link
In comment 14587606 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14587602 nygiants16 said:


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and lets be fair gettleman has rebuilt the offensive line, drafted a hall of fame runnjng back, his draft picks albeit very early have contributed except for 2..



The offensive line is improved. I wouldn't say it qualifies as above average. Solder is 31 and massively overpaid. Remmers is 30 and has a history of back problems. Zeitler was a good pickup but is 29. Halapio is 28 and has barely played before this season. It's not exactly built for the long haul.


it is at least good for the next 4 years, i expect the future right tackle drafted this year
RE: RE: Mike crossed the line  
Essex : 9/19/2019 10:41 am : link
In comment 14587604 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 14587546 ron mexico said:


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when he cited his career record and asked him why he is the guy to turn it around.

Thats not the type of question you pop on a weekly call in segment.



That’s not a fair question?

Players get similar questions from media when they’re playing bad and we expect them to stand up there and answer them.

I don't think that is a fair question, tbh (and I am not a fan of Shurmur). Whatever the situation is, he is here and the point of these interviews are to get information for the fans about how things are going to improve. We all know his record and Mike can easily say without Shurmur there that he is a bad coach based on his record. Obviosuly, Shurmur thinks he can get the job done and to belittle him to his face really is not the point of the interview. If you want to as DG or John Mara that question, its fair, but to say to a coach your record stinks so why should we have faith in you is really not a constructive question designed to get your listener's information. It is, however, a good question if you want fireworks and ratings, which might be Mike's aim (considering that he is now in a dogfight with Kaye).
RE: Weak from Shurmur  
djm : 9/19/2019 10:41 am : link
In comment 14587527 Oscar said:
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Take your lumps, it’s a big boy job.


Why? He doesn’t have to go on anyone’s show.
Francesa came  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/19/2019 10:42 am : link
across on Monday as a Giants fan who lost money betting on the Giants. He wasn't professional. I get he has a job to do, but there needs to be some form of professionalism.
I think the question  
jeff57 : 9/19/2019 10:42 am : link
About why Shurmur thought he was the right man for the job given his overall record as a head coach was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Shurmur/Giants  
bigbluehoya : 9/19/2019 10:43 am : link
Should immediately turn around and tell Chernoff that they’ll gladly do the weekly spot with Roberts or one of the other hosts worth a damn.

Eli was right to cancel his spot due to the situation.

And Shurmur was right to cancel his because Mike is just an absolute clown, ratings or no ratings.
One of the knocks on Shurmur coming into this job  
Oscar : 9/19/2019 10:43 am : link
Was he’s overly sensitive to what’s said about him and not great with the media in general. I think it’s a pretty low bar for the head coach of the New York Giants to go on the radio for 15 minutes a week and deal with some criticism.

Pat Shurmur is 5-13 with the Giants, 15-36 for his career. Why does he deserve the kid gloves treatment? The team he coaches is terrible, bottom of the league.

I’m sure he’d go on Mike’s show if he was 2-0 this season, 13-5 with the Giants, 36-15 for his career. If you can’t take criticism you’re in the wrong line of work. And if he wants softball questions or positivity he should do a better job coaching the team.

My only fear with DJ starting is that he saves this dope’s job.
the Giants are buffoons  
Enzo : 9/19/2019 10:44 am : link
but Francesa is hardly the good guy here. Especially after the Ballentine stuff.
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