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Encouraging sign for offensive line-ESPN Pass block win rate

BSIMatt : 9/19/2019 12:09 pm
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ESPN Analytics created a revolutionary new way of measuring the pass-block and pass-rush performance of individual NFL players.

Our Pass Block Win Rate metric tells us the rate at which linemen can sustain their blocks for 2.5 seconds or longer. Likewise, our Pass Rush Win Rate metric tells us how often a pass-rusher is able to beat his block within 2.5 seconds. Our model of pass blocking harnesses player tracking data from NFL Next Gen Stats.



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Top 10 team Pass Block Win Rate
1. Browns, 74%
2. Packers, 70%
3. Cowboys, 68%
4. Giants, 68%
T5. Colts, 67%
T5. Titans, 67%
7. 49ers, 65%
T8. Bills, 64%
T8. Patriots, 64%
10. Bears, 64%

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Top 10 OT Pass Block Win Rate

1. La'el Collins, Cowboys, 100%
2. Mike McGlinchey, 49ers, 100%
3. Greg Robinson, Browns, 97%
4. Tyron Smith, Cowboys, 97%
5. Brian O'Neill, Vikings, 97%
6. Trent Brown, Raiders, 96%
7. Nate Solder, Giants, 96%
8. Brandon Shell, Jets, 96%
T9. David Bakhtiari, Packers, 96%
T9. Jack Conklin, Titans, 96%


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Top 10 OG Pass Block Win Rate
1. Joel Bitonio, Browns, 100%
2. Joe Thuney, Patriots, 100%
3. Tytus Howard, Texans, 100%
4. Will Hernandez, Giants, 98%
5. Billy Turner, Packers, 98%
6. Lane Taylor, Packers, 97%
T7. Zack Martin, Cowboys, 97%
T7. Joe Dahl, Lions, 97%
9. Larry Warford, Saints, 96%
T10. David DeCastro, Steelers, 96%
T10. Jamil Douglas, Titans, 96%


That is through two weeks, and against some pretty good fronts in Dallas and Buffalo.

NFL pass-blocking, pass-rushing rankings: 2019 PBWR, PRWR leaderboard - ( New Window )
Hopefully  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/19/2019 12:11 pm : link
with a more mobile Jones, the opposing defense will have to play a little less aggressive.
Also..  
BSIMatt : 9/19/2019 12:14 pm : link
for a team that has been playing from behind for 98% of the time and is 3rd in the NFL in pass attempts.
For once  
darren in pdx : 9/19/2019 12:16 pm : link
the o-line isn't a disaster so far this season. The defense has been a disaster and finishing drives.
We also have zero neagative yardage rushing  
BSIMatt : 9/19/2019 12:18 pm : link
attempts through the first two games.
RE: We also have zero neagative yardage rushing  
ChaChing : 9/19/2019 12:21 pm : link
In comment 14587885 BSIMatt said:
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attempts through the first two games.

Small sample but that's awesome. Should mean short yardage goes back to being much easier (remember BJ's 1-2 yr, he was like 15/16 on 1 yrd conversions? Something like that)

Tho getting to 3rd and short might is a different issue esp if we avoid giving the ball to SB
It's encouraging that Solder was rated fairly high  
Ira : 9/19/2019 12:22 pm : link
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Here are the top ten teams...  
bw in dc : 9/19/2019 12:26 pm : link
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Top 10 team Pass Block Win Rate
1. Browns, 74%
2. Packers, 70%
3. Cowboys, 68%
4. Giants, 68%
T5. Colts, 67%
T5. Titans, 67%
7. 49ers, 65%
T8. Bills, 64%
T8. Patriots, 64%
10. Bears, 64%
I've been sayiing that on other threads. Our line has been very good  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2019 12:27 pm : link
and people bashing Solder don't know what they are talking about. He has been above average.
But I heard Solder sucks  
Karl Hungus : 9/19/2019 12:29 pm : link
?????
Top ten pass rushers btw...  
bw in dc : 9/19/2019 12:30 pm : link
for DEs and DTs. Some familiar names... ;)

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Top 10 DE/OLB Pass Rush Win Rate
1. Khalil Mack, Bears, 38%
2. Matt Judon, Ravens, 33%
3. Josh Allen, Jaguars, 32%
4. Marcus Davenport, Saints, 32%
5. Takkarist McKinley, Falcons, 30%
6. Brandon Graham, Eagles, 30%
7. Dante Fowler, Rams, 28%
8. T.J. Watt, Steelers, 28%
T9. Derek Barnett, Eagles, 27%
T9. Arden Key, Raiders, 27%

Top 10 DT Pass Rush Win Rate
1. Grady Jarrett, Falcons, 32%
2. Chris Jones, Chiefs, 29%
3. Aaron Donald, Rams, 24%
4. Corey Peters, Cardinals, 21%
5. Michael Bennett, Patriots, 19%
6. Maliek Collins, Cowboys, 18%
7. Kawann Short, Panthers, 17%
8. Ed Oliver, Bills, 16%
9. Michael Brockers, Rams, 16%
T10. Quinton Jefferson, Seahawks, 15%
T10. Mike Daniels, Lions, 15%
T10. Daron Payne, Redskins, 15%
The Browns is kind of a headscratcher.....has one guy been  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/19/2019 12:35 pm : link
so bad that they don't look that good on the field?
This is impossible....  
Tesla : 9/19/2019 12:35 pm : link
Brian Baldinger just posted a video showing how our awful OL gave Eli no chance to compete this year. I saw it with my own two eyes.

Ed Oliver making the list  
BSIMatt : 9/19/2019 12:37 pm : link
at 16% is impressive.
Solder did suck for a good portion of last year  
RollBlue : 9/19/2019 12:58 pm : link
he is definitely playing better. Better O-Line play, best RB in the league and we are averaging 12 points per game.
It is always good seem something positive  
ZogZerg : 9/19/2019 1:04 pm : link
Lets hope they can build on this.
It will improve even more when they realize Halapio stinks...  
Torrag : 9/19/2019 1:06 pm : link
and start Pulley.
RE: It will improve even more when they realize Halapio stinks...  
giants#1 : 9/19/2019 1:08 pm : link
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and start Pulley.


One data point, but didn't Sy have Halapio as the best OL against Dallas?
RE: RE: It will improve even more when they realize Halapio stinks...  
bw in dc : 9/19/2019 1:11 pm : link
In comment 14588023 giants#1 said:
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and start Pulley.



One data point, but didn't Sy have Halapio as the best OL against Dallas?


Sy did. Then he said against the Bills that Halapio basically did a 180.
lol "revolutionary"  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/19/2019 1:27 pm : link
marketing team must have been heavily involved. But yeah the simple eyeball test tells you its much better.
RE: It will improve even more when they realize Halapio stinks...  
Hammer : 9/19/2019 1:28 pm : link
In comment 14588019 Torrag said:
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and start Pulley.


I watched Halapio specifically against Dallas.

He played exceptionally well.

I'll go back and watch him against Buffalo tomorrow. At the game I didn't see him standing out in regard to poor play.
RE: Hopefully  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 9/19/2019 1:31 pm : link
In comment 14587859 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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with a more mobile Jones, the opposing defense will have to play a little less aggressive.

I would think with Saquon D's have to be less aggressive and go more bend but don't break 2 gap than a penetrating 1 gap scheme.

1 gap is like the Maginot Line and 2 gap is like General Mannstein's defense in depth along the eastern front.
Thats good news  
ron mexico : 9/19/2019 1:31 pm : link
hopefully the line is still doing well in a few years because its a pretty old group.

They need to restock the cupboard in the 2020 draft
RE: Thats good news  
giants#1 : 9/19/2019 1:40 pm : link
In comment 14588080 ron mexico said:
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hopefully the line is still doing well in a few years because its a pretty old group.

They need to restock the cupboard in the 2020 draft


Not that old.

Solder: 31
Hernandez: 24
Halapio: 28
Zeitler: 29
Remmers: 30

They're younger than the Eagles at every position and pretty close to Dallas' OL age. That said, Snee/Diehl did start breaking down around then which we still haven't recovered from and they do need to add some young blood, particularly at the OTs.

Really need Ximenes and/or Carter to show legit pass rush skills so we can "afford" to use a Day 2 pick on OL next year.
Then why bench Eli  
xman : 9/19/2019 2:12 pm : link
he is moments from putting it together and getting his mojo back. Maybe get him some all pro receivers.
RE: RE: Thats good news  
TommyWiseau : 9/19/2019 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14588101 giants#1 said:
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In comment 14588080 ron mexico said:


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hopefully the line is still doing well in a few years because its a pretty old group.

They need to restock the cupboard in the 2020 draft



Not that old.

Solder: 31
Hernandez: 24
Halapio: 28
Zeitler: 29
Remmers: 30

They're younger than the Eagles at every position and pretty close to Dallas' OL age. That said, Snee/Diehl did start breaking down around then which we still haven't recovered from and they do need to add some young blood, particularly at the OTs.

Really need Ximenes and/or Carter to show legit pass rush skills so we can "afford" to use a Day 2 pick on OL next year.


Hopefully this upcoming draft they can draft a prospect to groom and take over for Solder in a few years.. Remmers too
RE: RE: RE: Thats good news  
BSIMatt : 9/19/2019 3:11 pm : link
In comment 14588266 TommyWiseau said:
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In comment 14588080 ron mexico said:


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hopefully the line is still doing well in a few years because its a pretty old group.

They need to restock the cupboard in the 2020 draft



Not that old.

Solder: 31
Hernandez: 24
Halapio: 28
Zeitler: 29
Remmers: 30

They're younger than the Eagles at every position and pretty close to Dallas' OL age. That said, Snee/Diehl did start breaking down around then which we still haven't recovered from and they do need to add some young blood, particularly at the OTs.

Really need Ximenes and/or Carter to show legit pass rush skills so we can "afford" to use a Day 2 pick on OL next year.



Hopefully this upcoming draft they can draft a prospect to groom and take over for Solder in a few years.. Remmers too


They need to grab a young tackle or two in the next draft, along with a pass rusher, WR, LB.
I think we're going to see some cluster drafting on O in 2020  
81_Great_Dane : 9/19/2019 5:48 pm : link
just as we saw cluster drafting of DBs in 2019. DG loves his linemen so I'd look for 2-3 young linemen drafted in the early rounds. He's not going to start using early picks on receivers unless/until he is satisfied there's enough high-quality talent on the lines.
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