Good lord... here's the correspondence for activating Stanton, I guess. Never fails. We can't get one guy back without losing another somehow.
Hopefully he's innocent. Losing him for the long-haul would be a massive blow. I have no idea what the story is here, so I'm not going to opine or say he's a POS with zero detail, but... fucks sake, man.
One win away from 100 and the ALE crown in one of the weirdest baseball seasons I can recall.
When they say "40 man roster" the Yanks took it to heart this year Â
been saying all year that at some point all of these missing players was going to catch up with them. Have a bad feeling its going to happen in the playoffs and were gonna see a quick exit
But, I also question the severity of the blow given their alleged pitching model for the playoffs. They may be able to get by. And, he may have 18 wins, but the second half he was not nearly as good as the first.
been saying all year that at some point all of these missing players was going to catch up with them. Have a bad feeling its going to happen in the playoffs and were gonna see a quick exit
I think they have to plan for Severino to be a starter in the postseason now. It was probably trending that way anyway... but if we lose German, we're at the point where Happ is in line to start a Game 3 which is really far from ideal.
I think they have to use Tanaka/Paxton/Severino and then some form of an opener/Happ game.
Loaisiga shouldn't be a candidate to take his place in the rotation. He's not stretched out anymore and he's been thriving in the bullpen. He's going to be a really, really good reliever. Let him keep pitching there. He can give you 2 innings at a time if need be.
been saying all year that at some point all of these missing players was going to catch up with them. Have a bad feeling its going to happen in the playoffs and were gonna see a quick exit
Loaisiga shouldn't be a candidate to take his place in the rotation. He's not stretched out anymore and he's been thriving in the bullpen. He's going to be a really, really good reliever. Let him keep pitching there. He can give you 2 innings at a time if need be.
There is no more rotation, at least for October. They seem to be pairing pitchers with nobody going more than 2 times through the lineup.
and no question if it's even possible this is the right move by the MLB.
That being said IF he's cleared of wrong doing here it kind of shoots him for the playoffs regardless. Missing a start, the emotional impact of dealing with this. Hard to assume he'd have it together for a game.
Loaisiga shouldn't be a candidate to take his place in the rotation. He's not stretched out anymore and he's been thriving in the bullpen. He's going to be a really, really good reliever. Let him keep pitching there. He can give you 2 innings at a time if need be.
There is no more rotation, at least for October. They seem to be pairing pitchers with nobody going more than 2 times through the lineup.
Huh? We're not using starting pitchers in October?
Loaisiga shouldn't be a candidate to take his place in the rotation. He's not stretched out anymore and he's been thriving in the bullpen. He's going to be a really, really good reliever. Let him keep pitching there. He can give you 2 innings at a time if need be.
There is no more rotation, at least for October. They seem to be pairing pitchers with nobody going more than 2 times through the lineup.
Huh? We're not using starting pitchers in October?
That's news to me...
The news has been that there may not be a true rotation. They are, of course, using starters. But, they are leaning towards not using them in a traditional way. They may essentially take a variation of the opener role for all games, with nobody going more than 3-4 innings.
and no question if it's even possible this is the right move by the MLB.
That being said IF he's cleared of wrong doing here it kind of shoots him for the playoffs regardless. Missing a start, the emotional impact of dealing with this. Hard to assume he'd have it together for a game.
Weird take...
If he's cleared, he'd be so emotionally distraught to the point where he would be unavailable for the entire postseason?
Not sure I see that.
BTW for MLB to move this fast right before the post season Â
Loaisiga shouldn't be a candidate to take his place in the rotation. He's not stretched out anymore and he's been thriving in the bullpen. He's going to be a really, really good reliever. Let him keep pitching there. He can give you 2 innings at a time if need be.
There is no more rotation, at least for October. They seem to be pairing pitchers with nobody going more than 2 times through the lineup.
Huh? We're not using starting pitchers in October?
That's news to me...
The news has been that there may not be a true rotation. They are, of course, using starters. But, they are leaning towards not using them in a traditional way. They may essentially take a variation of the opener role for all games, with nobody going more than 3-4 innings.
If Tanaka and Paxton aren't pitching more than 3-4 innings in postseason games, we're in a world of trouble.
We don't have enough relievers to do that.
They'll more likely use an opener for one slot in a Game 4 and do that once through, but for the Tanaka, Paxton (and hopefully) Severino starts, they're going to be hoping for 5-6 so they can bridge right to their leverage guys out of the bullpen (Kahnle, Ottavino, Britton, Chapman)
I think the emotional trauma and missing the time both Â
Loaisiga shouldn't be a candidate to take his place in the rotation. He's not stretched out anymore and he's been thriving in the bullpen. He's going to be a really, really good reliever. Let him keep pitching there. He can give you 2 innings at a time if need be.
There is no more rotation, at least for October. They seem to be pairing pitchers with nobody going more than 2 times through the lineup.
Huh? We're not using starting pitchers in October?
That's news to me...
The news has been that there may not be a true rotation. They are, of course, using starters. But, they are leaning towards not using them in a traditional way. They may essentially take a variation of the opener role for all games, with nobody going more than 3-4 innings.
If Tanaka and Paxton aren't pitching more than 3-4 innings in postseason games, we're in a world of trouble.
We don't have enough relievers to do that.
They'll more likely use an opener for one slot in a Game 4 and do that once through, but for the Tanaka, Paxton (and hopefully) Severino starts, they're going to be hoping for 5-6 so they can bridge right to their leverage guys out of the bullpen (Kahnle, Ottavino, Britton, Chapman)
I heard on the radio the other day that Paxton was the exception to this rule. It was Paxton + a slew of combos. I don't recall the combinations, but I think one was CC and German or Severino.
Loaisiga shouldn't be a candidate to take his place in the rotation. He's not stretched out anymore and he's been thriving in the bullpen. He's going to be a really, really good reliever. Let him keep pitching there. He can give you 2 innings at a time if need be.
There is no more rotation, at least for October. They seem to be pairing pitchers with nobody going more than 2 times through the lineup.
Huh? We're not using starting pitchers in October?
That's news to me...
The news has been that there may not be a true rotation. They are, of course, using starters. But, they are leaning towards not using them in a traditional way. They may essentially take a variation of the opener role for all games, with nobody going more than 3-4 innings.
If Tanaka and Paxton aren't pitching more than 3-4 innings in postseason games, we're in a world of trouble.
We don't have enough relievers to do that.
They'll more likely use an opener for one slot in a Game 4 and do that once through, but for the Tanaka, Paxton (and hopefully) Severino starts, they're going to be hoping for 5-6 so they can bridge right to their leverage guys out of the bullpen (Kahnle, Ottavino, Britton, Chapman)
I heard on the radio the other day that Paxton was the exception to this rule. It was Paxton + a slew of combos. I don't recall the combinations, but I think one was CC and German or Severino.
Also, the point is they don't want to rely on any of the starters other than Paxton to go more than 3-4 innings. The Yankees are one of the worst teams in terms of a starter facing a team a third time through the lineup. Perhaps if a guy is lights out, they go away from this. But, each guy going 3-4 actually gets them deeper in the game without taxing the pen given the number of pitches it has taken guys to get through 4-5 innings now. this also may allow guys to make more appearances, more in line with relievers.
RE: BTW for MLB to move this fast right before the post season Â
I'm hoping that this turns out to be unfounded or overblown. I'm not very confident that will turn out to be the case though, and that would be pretty much it for him with me.
Matt, I think they have to expect more than 3-4 innings from Tanaka in the postseason. If Paxton is the only guy they're expecting more from on the entire staff; we're going to burn out our bullpen well before we ever get to the World Series. They can't pitch Kahnle, Otto, Britton and Chappy every game. Chad Green can't piggyback every starter. It won't work. Someone is going to have to give them innings.
Severino should be stretched out to nearly 100 pitches by October if not 100. If he's through 3 shutout innings in a postseason game, there's no way you yank him. He's got to stay in the game.
I wouldn't ride Sevy super hard or expect him to be a workhorse, but if we're without German, I think the Yankees are going to have to use him as a Game 3 starter and then piece together game 4 with some combo of Happ/Green/Loaisiga, etc.
He's stunk lately. That 2015 Royals blueprint where the bullpen goes 4+ every game doesn't work if you don't have at least 4 relievers you can rely on, and right now would you feel confident that you can rely on Ottavino?
I think Ottavino will be fine - but I also think Boone needs to give him more of a break this month.
I posted a bit ago about the disparity in Ottavino's ERA/FIP numbers and that I was concerned he'd eventually hit a rough patch and 'regress' a bit. I think this might be where it's happening.
He's still having a fantastic year, but he's definitely struggling right now and probably needs a break. Would have helped if he'd just have underhanded that ball to Higgy on that play at the plate... pitchers do such weird things with the baseball when they throw to bases off flat ground.
been saying all year that at some point all of these missing players was going to catch up with them. Have a bad feeling its going to happen in the playoffs and were gonna see a quick exit
Wow you really nailed it. /sarcasm
fuck off to a mets thread loser
LOL, Yankees have 99 wins and you want to remind people you kept saying all year they'd suck with all the injuries? But hey, losing German *might* *maybe* cost them against a stacked Astros team.
Oh well, next man up. Give his spot to Johnny Lasagna.
Hopefully he's innocent. Losing him for the long-haul would be a massive blow. I have no idea what the story is here, so I'm not going to opine or say he's a POS with zero detail, but... fucks sake, man.
One win away from 100 and the ALE crown in one of the weirdest baseball seasons I can recall.
0% chance. He's either cleared or he won't be allowed to throw a pitch again this season.
I know that - I don't mean actual transaction.
I'm talking about the way every time we activate someone, we lose someone else for some reason or another.
Like how we activated Severino and lost Betances the same night.
It's been this way all year. Someone gets healthy and finally get back, someone else goes down. Uncanny.
Wow you really nailed it. /sarcasm
I think they have to use Tanaka/Paxton/Severino and then some form of an opener/Happ game.
Oy... this sucks .
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been saying all year that at some point all of these missing players was going to catch up with them. Have a bad feeling its going to happen in the playoffs and were gonna see a quick exit
Wow you really nailed it. /sarcasm
fuck off to a mets thread loser
That being said IF he's cleared of wrong doing here it kind of shoots him for the playoffs regardless. Missing a start, the emotional impact of dealing with this. Hard to assume he'd have it together for a game.
Wtf?
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Loaisiga shouldn't be a candidate to take his place in the rotation. He's not stretched out anymore and he's been thriving in the bullpen. He's going to be a really, really good reliever. Let him keep pitching there. He can give you 2 innings at a time if need be.
There is no more rotation, at least for October. They seem to be pairing pitchers with nobody going more than 2 times through the lineup.
Huh? We're not using starting pitchers in October?
That's news to me...
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Loaisiga shouldn't be a candidate to take his place in the rotation. He's not stretched out anymore and he's been thriving in the bullpen. He's going to be a really, really good reliever. Let him keep pitching there. He can give you 2 innings at a time if need be.
There is no more rotation, at least for October. They seem to be pairing pitchers with nobody going more than 2 times through the lineup.
Huh? We're not using starting pitchers in October?
That's news to me...
That being said IF he's cleared of wrong doing here it kind of shoots him for the playoffs regardless. Missing a start, the emotional impact of dealing with this. Hard to assume he'd have it together for a game.
Weird take...
If he's cleared, he'd be so emotionally distraught to the point where he would be unavailable for the entire postseason?
Not sure I see that.
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Loaisiga shouldn't be a candidate to take his place in the rotation. He's not stretched out anymore and he's been thriving in the bullpen. He's going to be a really, really good reliever. Let him keep pitching there. He can give you 2 innings at a time if need be.
There is no more rotation, at least for October. They seem to be pairing pitchers with nobody going more than 2 times through the lineup.
Huh? We're not using starting pitchers in October?
That's news to me...
The news has been that there may not be a true rotation. They are, of course, using starters. But, they are leaning towards not using them in a traditional way. They may essentially take a variation of the opener role for all games, with nobody going more than 3-4 innings.
If Tanaka and Paxton aren't pitching more than 3-4 innings in postseason games, we're in a world of trouble.
We don't have enough relievers to do that.
They'll more likely use an opener for one slot in a Game 4 and do that once through, but for the Tanaka, Paxton (and hopefully) Severino starts, they're going to be hoping for 5-6 so they can bridge right to their leverage guys out of the bullpen (Kahnle, Ottavino, Britton, Chapman)
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Loaisiga shouldn't be a candidate to take his place in the rotation. He's not stretched out anymore and he's been thriving in the bullpen. He's going to be a really, really good reliever. Let him keep pitching there. He can give you 2 innings at a time if need be.
There is no more rotation, at least for October. They seem to be pairing pitchers with nobody going more than 2 times through the lineup.
Huh? We're not using starting pitchers in October?
That's news to me...
The news has been that there may not be a true rotation. They are, of course, using starters. But, they are leaning towards not using them in a traditional way. They may essentially take a variation of the opener role for all games, with nobody going more than 3-4 innings.
If Tanaka and Paxton aren't pitching more than 3-4 innings in postseason games, we're in a world of trouble.
We don't have enough relievers to do that.
They'll more likely use an opener for one slot in a Game 4 and do that once through, but for the Tanaka, Paxton (and hopefully) Severino starts, they're going to be hoping for 5-6 so they can bridge right to their leverage guys out of the bullpen (Kahnle, Ottavino, Britton, Chapman)
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Loaisiga shouldn't be a candidate to take his place in the rotation. He's not stretched out anymore and he's been thriving in the bullpen. He's going to be a really, really good reliever. Let him keep pitching there. He can give you 2 innings at a time if need be.
There is no more rotation, at least for October. They seem to be pairing pitchers with nobody going more than 2 times through the lineup.
Huh? We're not using starting pitchers in October?
That's news to me...
The news has been that there may not be a true rotation. They are, of course, using starters. But, they are leaning towards not using them in a traditional way. They may essentially take a variation of the opener role for all games, with nobody going more than 3-4 innings.
If Tanaka and Paxton aren't pitching more than 3-4 innings in postseason games, we're in a world of trouble.
We don't have enough relievers to do that.
They'll more likely use an opener for one slot in a Game 4 and do that once through, but for the Tanaka, Paxton (and hopefully) Severino starts, they're going to be hoping for 5-6 so they can bridge right to their leverage guys out of the bullpen (Kahnle, Ottavino, Britton, Chapman)
I heard on the radio the other day that Paxton was the exception to this rule. It was Paxton + a slew of combos. I don't recall the combinations, but I think one was CC and German or Severino.
TMZ says it stems from an incident upon returning from Toronto last week. No other details.
Severino should be stretched out to nearly 100 pitches by October if not 100. If he's through 3 shutout innings in a postseason game, there's no way you yank him. He's got to stay in the game.
I wouldn't ride Sevy super hard or expect him to be a workhorse, but if we're without German, I think the Yankees are going to have to use him as a Game 3 starter and then piece together game 4 with some combo of Happ/Green/Loaisiga, etc.
I posted a bit ago about the disparity in Ottavino's ERA/FIP numbers and that I was concerned he'd eventually hit a rough patch and 'regress' a bit. I think this might be where it's happening.
He's still having a fantastic year, but he's definitely struggling right now and probably needs a break. Would have helped if he'd just have underhanded that ball to Higgy on that play at the plate... pitchers do such weird things with the baseball when they throw to bases off flat ground.
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been saying all year that at some point all of these missing players was going to catch up with them. Have a bad feeling its going to happen in the playoffs and were gonna see a quick exit
Wow you really nailed it. /sarcasm
fuck off to a mets thread loser
LOL, Yankees have 99 wins and you want to remind people you kept saying all year they'd suck with all the injuries? But hey, losing German *might* *maybe* cost them against a stacked Astros team.
Way to go out on a limb, nostradumbass