Tom Brady: How does he STILL do it?

like the plague.

But, joking aside, I do think it’s Belichek.

weirdo trainer a little odd. Odd in a similar way to ARod and his weird trainer, if you get my drift.

Something doesn't jive with Him and the patriots. The fact that they have stayed contenders for almost 20 years is unbelievable. Teams always go through down years, and they never seem to. And I have a hard time believing it's just because he and bill are the GOATs.

I'm willing to bet TB is on some sort of HGH that isn't on the market yet and is undetectable.

In comment 14589173 Jerz44 said:

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like the plague. But, joking aside, I do think it’s Belichek.

Belichick can only do so much for a QB. He can't stop Tom from aging. He can't protect him from injuries.

They are so flexible with how they attack teams and have always provided good protection for him.

He is exceptionally smart.

Belichick is just better than everyone else. He is known for his defensive prowess but I think he is really involved on the offensive side along with Ernie Adams. Brady is able to handle the complexities of the offense.

In comment 14589189 LawrenceTaylor56 said:

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In comment 14589173 Jerz44 said: Quote: like the plague. But, joking aside, I do think it’s Belichek. Belichick can only do so much for a QB. He can't stop Tom from aging. He can't protect him from injuries.

He definitely helps Brady from becoming inured when he and the OC create an offense that gets the ball out in under 3 seconds.

With today's QB friendly rules, you can't hit what you can't touch...

And the only thing you've EVER known about your favorite team is that they were the toast of the league, and ALWAYS in contention for a championship.

Your low water mark is when they went 11-5 and didn't make the playoffs.

Eventually, they will fall back to earth. A Sociologist could win some awards covering this phenomenon.

When you have a Gisele waiting at home for you

what's that?

And why didn't Chad Henne or Drew Henson or Brian Griese or Denard Robinson or Todd Collins or etc. etc have it?

The division and conference around him is not very good. His coach is far and away the best active coach and the best of all time. And he takes care of himself.

It will end soon, I still think it’ll end this season. He looked average in the Super Bowl, well off his best. We’re in September right now. Long road ahead still.

was this good at 42yrs old. makes you wonder.

tend to be the guys whose games have been based on accuracy. Tom Brady thrives on great accuracy on the short and intermediate routes. Not sure that goes as much as the big arms do.

Bill Belichick, and he is a freak of nature

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Brady is far greater than Eli. It is dumb to compare them. Brady is a master at moving the chains with short stuff but he also has the ability to stick winning throws with phenomenal ball placement 15 to 25 yards downfield. Manning does not have this ability anymore. Also Brady is a great fit for a high pct effective ball control Offense. Through the season he helps the offense evolve, every season, to a point where it is hard to defend. With great talent or without it. Eli does not have this ability anymore.

In comment 14589232 AndyMilligan said:

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Brady is far greater than Eli. It is dumb to compare them. Brady is a master at moving the chains with short stuff but he also has the ability to stick winning throws with phenomenal ball placement 15 to 25 yards downfield. Manning does not have this ability anymore. Also Brady is a great fit for a high pct effective ball control Offense. Through the season he helps the offense evolve, every season, to a point where it is hard to defend. With great talent or without it. Eli does not have this ability anymore.

I stopped reading after you said it’s dumb to compare Eli and Brady. Who is comparing them?

but I am with others here and he is taking something and knows how to hide it.

is passionate, single focused, absolutely committed to his craft, and is blessed with a great football mind.

Same with Belichick.

They are complete outliers.

…"you can't compare the two..."

I can compare my HS QB to TB if I want to. AND, I might be able to make a very good/fair comparison.

(BTW, my QB was 14-19 299 4TD 1INT last week)

In comment 14589235 LawrenceTaylor56 said:

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In comment 14589232 AndyMilligan said: Quote: Brady is far greater than Eli. It is dumb to compare them. Brady is a master at moving the chains with short stuff but he also has the ability to stick winning throws with phenomenal ball placement 15 to 25 yards downfield. Manning does not have this ability anymore. Also Brady is a great fit for a high pct effective ball control Offense. Through the season he helps the offense evolve, every season, to a point where it is hard to defend. With great talent or without it. Eli does not have this ability anymore. I stopped reading after you said it’s dumb to compare Eli and Brady. Who is comparing them?

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Eli is the one who looks 42, Brady more like 32.
Whatever people think, that TB12 is working for him.
It doesn't mean it would necessarily work for others?

Anybody who thinks that team is where they are just because of Tom Brady is pretty ignorant.

Is he great? Duh. Obviously. But he is in the best possible situation in New England. Great organization with the GoaT HC.

It's interesting to ponder how Rivers, Ben, or Eli would have done in that situation. Would they have less Super Bowls? Been less dominant? Maybe. But how much less?

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weirdo trainer a little odd. Odd in a similar way to ARod and his weird trainer, if you get my drift.

So you're saying their trainers are actually the devil incarnate? Making a deal with the Devil is the only explanation.

In comment 14589204 pjcas18 said:

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what's that? And why didn't Chad Henne or Drew Henson or Brian Griese or Denard Robinson or Todd Collins or etc. etc have it?

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Sorry, couldn't resist had a Col. Frank Slade flashback:

'Because he's not a Bairdman. Bairdmen. You hurt this boy, you're gonna be Baird bums, the lot of ya.
And Harry, Jimmy, Trent, wherever you are out there,
F*** YOU TOO!'

Dante Scarnecchia might be the most underrated unknown coach to casual fans in football.

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In comment 14589244 bw in dc said:

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is passionate, single focused, absolutely committed to his craft, and is blessed with a great football mind. Same with Belichick. They are complete outliers.

Yes TB and BB are all of these but TB also has a unique skill set that totally adds to his greatness. He is a complete master at the short, quick rhythm pass game, like Montana. Many try to emulate him but none really do it as well as consistently. Brady also knows how to make winning throws, daggers, when he has to. His ball placement in crunch time, when he has to make the kill, is second to none. Yea pairing him with BB is killer, and his commitment is second to none, but like Michael Jordan who you could say the same about, he has the talent to go with the desire to win.

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Okay. What's the excuse when he plays the rest of the league and still wins and puts up ridiculous numbers?

I guess my original question is being missed. He hasn't aged. Hasn't declined. He's 42. Our QB at 38 is done. There's injuries around the league left and right. How many other QBs last as long as he does? How does he still do it, and the level he is doing it at?

In comment 14589217 joeinpa said:

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Bill Belichick, and he is a freak of nature

This:


The AFC East

now. The problem is a lot of these guys don't do it until it is too late. That in of itself can probably buy you another 5-7 years.

In comment 14589316 LawrenceTaylor56 said:

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In comment 14589310 NoPeanutz said: Quote: . Okay. What's the excuse when he plays the rest of the league and still wins and puts up ridiculous numbers? I guess my original question is being missed. He hasn't aged. Hasn't declined. He's 42. Our QB at 38 is done. There's injuries around the league left and right. How many other QBs last as long as he does? How does he still do it, and the level he is doing it at?

You're right. The OJ after Toothpaste division that he's played for the last 18 years can't be a significant factor. It's probably, as AndyMilligan September 2019 suggests, his "Desire to win."

He also does this in an era where it has become impossible for defenders to even touch him without drawing a flag, not to mention the quarterback slide "giving himself up" without being hit.

I think that Dan Marino wishes he was born 40 years later than he was.....

In comment 14589173 Jerz44 said:

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like the plague. But, joking aside, I do think it’s Belichek.

Think it's the other way around, and it's not even close.

Edelman and Welker. Those guys are basically uncoverable out of the slot.

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He also does this in an era where it has become impossible for defenders to even touch him without drawing a flag, not to mention the quarterback slide "giving himself up" without being hit. I think that Dan Marino wishes he was born 40 years later than he was.....

Dan Marino is a fucking legend for sure. In the discussion for best QB of all time and is near the top of the list in terms of best ball placement, release, etc etc.. but he quite simply did not elevate his team the way Brady does.

In comment 14589350 Coach Red Beaulieu said:

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Edelman and Welker. Those guys are basically uncoverable out of the slot.

Ah, buncha high motor guys.

but you can't put this incredible late-career success on BB. It is unheard of, and I think it speaks to how Brady prioritized flexibility over strength. That and genetics; he clearly won the genetics lottery.

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but you can't put this incredible late-career success on BB. It is unheard of, and I think it speaks to how Brady prioritized flexibility over strength. That and genetics; he clearly won the genetics lottery.

Kinda what I was going after. Belichick can't coach guys to not age, or fall off a cliff. Just almost unheard of these days.

In comment 14589350 Coach Red Beaulieu said:

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Edelman and Welker. Those guys are basically uncoverable out of the slot.

Hmm, Wes Welker averaged over 110 receptions per year in 6 seasons with Brady, less than 50 in 5 years elsewhere.

Sometimes, you just got to admit the guy is really fucking good.

hand. Sure some things are, but eating healthy is discipline not some genetic lottery. Look at what alcoholics/drug addicts look like in their 40's. Why would food be any different? Sure there is less stress from bad food than there is from drugs/alcohol, but healthy foods are going to help you age better. It isn't a shock that the majority of people that age well, eat well.

Because of TB12 funnels money to him directly from Kraft. There is always that.

He has also played in the same offense his entire career. Have different people been coordinators, yes, but bill grows coaches internally, so he has NEVER had to change the complete offense. He just adds to it.

In comment 14589443 Zeke's Alibi said:

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hand. Sure some things are, but eating healthy is discipline not some genetic lottery. Look at what alcoholics/drug addicts look like in their 40's. Why would food be any different? Sure there is less stress from bad food than there is from drugs/alcohol, but healthy foods are going to help you age better. It isn't a shock that the majority of people that age well, eat well.

I said his focus on flexibility was key, but genetics plays a role. It is silly to think otherwise. You are right that nutrition is key, too, but it's not like Brady is the only guy in NFL history who ate well.

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A bit of a self fulfilling prophecy going on as well, a simple "success begets success" element with an indestructible foundation, immune to second guessing. They are so utterly confident in their system, themselves, their process, their front office, and their QB.

It must be immensely liberating as an offensive player on that team not to have to doubt the credibility of those around you. There is a responsibility there, for sure... you know it is all on you. But that is empowering as well.

....but remember, just a few years ago he looked like he was starting to show some wear. Even last year.

We are two games in, season is fresh. I predict by season's end he will show some wear again.

Still...guy is amazing.

In comment 14589446 BigBlueDownTheShore said:

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Because of TB12 funnels money to him directly from Kraft. There is always that. He has also played in the same offense his entire career. Have different people been coordinators, yes, but bill grows coaches internally, so he has NEVER had to change the complete offense. He just adds to it.

How much money do you think kraft funnels in to TB12? And do you have a source or just throwing out reckless accusations?

are the GOATs at the short passing game. In terms of velocity + accuracy, no one else is on their tier.

You'd think that a guy whose skillset depends on velocity would fall off but maybe throwing short bullets is something you can maintain longer than throwing long ropes? Clearly he does an excellent job of maintaining himself physically.

In comment 14589352 AndyMilligan said:

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Dan Marino is a fucking legend for sure. In the discussion for best QB of all time and is near the top of the list in terms of best ball placement, release, etc etc.. but he quite simply did not elevate his team the way Brady does.

Really? Name the HoF WR receivers Marino played with. The TE. The RBs.

Name the HoF defenders Marino played with.

Marino was great right away. He dragged that team to the SB his second year in '84. I can argue that no team offered less support for a great player than Miami did with Marino.

I think you are getting out over your skis here.

Meditation and organic avocados

In comment 14589694 bw in dc said:

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In comment 14589352 AndyMilligan said: Quote: Dan Marino is a fucking legend for sure. In the discussion for best QB of all time and is near the top of the list in terms of best ball placement, release, etc etc.. but he quite simply did not elevate his team the way Brady does. Really? Name the HoF WR receivers Marino played with. The TE. The RBs. Name the HoF defenders Marino played with. Marino was great right away. He dragged that team to the SB his second year in '84. I can argue that no team offered less support for a great player than Miami did with Marino. I think you are getting out over your skis here.

Well, the Marks bros were very good (Duper and Clayton). He wasn't hurting on offense. It's the defenses that never could help Marino's teams get over the hump. Never better than mediocre for Marino's whole tenure really.