It kind of feels like a brand new season now, and hopefully, it can re-unite Giants fans that have been split for a couple of years on Manning, the direction of the organization, etc... This is something we can all get on together and be excited for. We're watching this really young team from the ground up, hopefully coming together and playing some good, competitive football. Something we haven't really seen in years.
I'm not putting this all Daniel Jones back, but I guess I'm more feeling like that the last era is now TRULY over, and Sunday begins a brand new one. Coughlin and Eli now belong to the annals of Giants history, and Barkley and Jones are hopefully going to make their own. For the first time in 16 years, this truly feels like a new beginning, and I'm excited.
Going all out to watch on Sunday, setting up the projector out in the garage, 100 inch screen, the works, rather than just going through the motions like I've been doing for a while.
Uh, wtf? It’s a lose, lose? If they win the game, they still lose? Because you care more about Eli than the Giants?
Gtfo with this nonsense. Unbelievable
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I'm not excited at all. This was a game I thought they would win with Eli. Now? If they win it's because Jones is better than Eli? That will be the narrative and I'm not on board. It's a lose, lose. Only thing to look forward to is Saquon.
Uh, wtf? It’s a lose, lose? If they win the game, they still lose? Because you care more about Eli than the Giants?
Gtfo with this nonsense. Unbelievable
Yes I do. Eventually it will go away. But not this game.
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I'm not excited at all. This was a game I thought they would win with Eli. Now? If they win it's because Jones is better than Eli? That will be the narrative and I'm not on board. It's a lose, lose. Only thing to look forward to is Saquon.
Uh, wtf? It’s a lose, lose? If they win the game, they still lose? Because you care more about Eli than the Giants?
Gtfo with this nonsense. Unbelievable
Yes I do. Eventually it will go away. But not this game.
I understand the sentiment, but I just want to say... If Jones comes in and we win, it won't necessarily mean Jones is better. We just needed to shake things up.
Eli wasn't the problem with this team. His style was ineffective and not a difference maker. The offense no longer suited him.
This isn't on Eli by a longshot. It's just time, unfortunately.
What a strange take... to care more about the general perception of Eli Manning than the Giants winning a game in Week 3.
Our ownership/leadership has failed to put that around him for a long time.
In some ways, this is merciful. That's how I see it.
That said, I became a Giants fan before I even knew Eli existed. He's not the reason I root for this team. I'm not rooting for fucking spite losses now that they've decided to play Jones. I thought Eli would get a little more time than this, but we're not winning games and don't look all that close to winning them right now, so it's hard to argue with the change.
I'll be damned if I root against Daniel or the team today out of some over the top attachment to Eli and valuing him over the entire franchise. That's insane to me.
And I think it's well known enough around here that I've had Eli's back all the way through. It's just time... the time comes for everyone.
Well it a shame you're not on board. Are you going to take up golf, gardening or something else to do on sundays?
Our ownership/leadership has failed to put that around him for a long time.
In some ways, this is merciful. That's how I see it.
a bit dramatic, but not unexpected...
As I said earlier in this thread... I am, was, and will always be a Giants fan.
hopefully soon...
You may hold the title now, but that's only because Dep was banned. lol
I don't either but you sound like a eulogy...
What a weird Giants fan.
2 games? Have you missed the last few seasons or what?
You lose me when you say putting Jones in means it is no longer about wins and losses.
That's exactly what it's about.
All we've been doing with Eli is losing.
Who knows where he is 3 years or so? May turn into a franchise qb (fingers crossed) or just doesn't cut it. But if he really falls flat these 14 games (highly doubt) it gives this franchise on a true hit at a good qb next draft. But, i'm booking on this kid being the face of the franchise (along with Barkley) for the foreseeable future.
Maybe his presence will cause the receivers to find some speed and talent. Maybe his mere nomination as starter will cause the defense to look competitive. Maybe having named Jones starter, Pat Shurmur will finally find the key to being an average NFL HC, a key that has so far eluded him in multiple assignments.
I have my doubts. The receivers still blow. The offense is still one predicated almost exclusively on fakes and misdirection and is a sitting duck against speedy or well trained defenses who recover or don't fall for the fakes and misdirection and the defense is slow and often confused. None of that is going to change because Jones is out there.
I don't want to hear a fucking thing out of Jawn. He's a nice man of good intentions and piss poor, comically bad judgment.
How can fans, who hated Jones as a QB in VIRTUALLY any round or who were royally pissed when he was taken at 6, be excited about him playing?
After all, they KNOW he sucks. Shouldn’t they be feeling trepidation over excitement? We know for certain that their minds were not changed over a vanilla pre-season, because at best, he’ll be an average QB with certainly no chance to wear the franchise label.
So what’s with their excitement with all that they know about this Dave Brown equivalent?
Help me out here, bud..😎
Or maybe you are just exaggerating for effect.
one or some of those...
How can fans, who hated Jones as a QB in VIRTUALLY any round or who were royally pissed when he was taken at 6, be excited about him playing?
After all, they KNOW he sucks. Shouldn’t they be feeling trepidation over excitement? We know for certain that their minds were not changed over a vanilla pre-season, because at best, he’ll be an average QB with certainly no chance to wear the franchise label.
So what’s with their excitement with all that they know about this Dave Brown equivalent?
Help me out here, bud..😎
I'm impressed that you manage to keep track of all these bullshit narratives flying through your head at the same time.
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over the excite by some re Jones our starting QB.
How can fans, who hated Jones as a QB in VIRTUALLY any round or who were royally pissed when he was taken at 6, be excited about him playing?
After all, they KNOW he sucks. Shouldn’t they be feeling trepidation over excitement? We know for certain that their minds were not changed over a vanilla pre-season, because at best, he’ll be an average QB with certainly no chance to wear the franchise label.
So what’s with their excitement with all that they know about this Dave Brown equivalent?
Help me out here, bud..😎
I'm impressed that you manage to keep track of all these bullshit narratives flying through your head at the same time.
Two things: One, they are accurate as hell and two, I was born and raised in the Bronx, we keep all bullshit in our heads
Hopefully not, but maybe Jones will never be a franchise player and DG did screw up. Those opinions, albeit coming way too soon, are typical of fans for any team. And now its game time and they are excited to see Jones give it a go.
Where are you going with this?
😊😊
Or maybe they realized they are fans of the Giants, and will root for them no matter what.
Good luck to DJ and the rest of the team this afternoon...
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was the media. Jones sucks and will never be a franchise player. DG screwed up royally by not taking the much better prospect, Josh Allen at 6.
Hopefully not, but maybe Jones will never be a franchise player and DG did screw up. Those opinions, albeit coming way too soon, are typical of fans for any team. And now its game time and they are excited to see Jones give it a go.
Where are you going with this?
Where I’m going with this? We ALL realize he may not be a franchise player and ultimately, it will be proven whether DG screwed up or not. That’s the mindset of many of us..We know there’s a possibility of failure..
That is in direct contrast to those who stated emphatically that Jones was crap and it was a huge mistake to take him at 6 (or anywhere else in round one) with zero possibility that they can be wrong.
A huge difference..So again, explain to me where the excitement in lieu of trepidation is coming from with these know it alls?
Same people, some of the same people, none of the same people...which is it?
You're calling out a bunch of know-it-alls for the obvious fact they don't know it all...why?
No room for error in their minds. So once again, why are they excited over garbage.
Why is this so hard to comprehend?
Seems fairly harmless and pretty expected.
Who are the ones that you are calling out that indicated Jones was an absolute mistake and they couldn't be wrong, but yet are excited?
No room for error in their minds. So once again, why are they excited over garbage.
Why is this so hard to comprehend?
Pretty sure most that were unhappy with the pick (which I include myself) felt leaving Josh Allen on the board was the mistake - Even knowing Jones may not (would not) be there at 17 - that a game changing LB would help more than Eli's replacement (who was/is needed)
That being said I am excited to see what we have in Jones and hope he's the second coming of Dan Marino (rookie who blasts off) and that we beat TB
As they did it, however, they are starting the new QB missing most of the WR, against a very tough D, and in a way that makes it look like the coach has lost confidence in the team and is running an 18 game preseason for next year.
I hope I am wrong, but this looks like the team will give up before week 5.
As they did it, however, they are starting the new QB missing most of the WR, against a very tough D, and in a way that makes it look like the coach has lost confidence in the team and is running an 18 game preseason for next year.
I hope I am wrong, but this looks like the team will give up before week 5.
I really don’t think this is or will be the case.
I’ll bet most of the locker room is happy with the switch.
How ya feelin there, kiddo? Should we send someone over to check on you?
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I'm not excited at all. This was a game I thought they would win with Eli. Now? If they win it's because Jones is better than Eli? That will be the narrative and I'm not on board. It's a lose, lose. Only thing to look forward to is Saquon.
How ya feelin there, kiddo? Should we send someone over to check on you?
Lol
Googs you've been on point through many posts on this thread. Fiddy, you are throwing darts at a straw man here big time.
As one of the guys dead set against the selection of Jones sixth overall, based on my own review of his game tape far more than pundits' opinions, but also based on numerous comments by FMIC (who saw Jones look bad live at Duke) or other knowledgeable regulars who didn't like aspects of Jones' game, I have had no issue with "flip flopping" on him for all the reasons Googs cited.
Amusing thread, especially in light of Jones's great 1st real game - which damn well mirrored or followed up his excellent pre-season performances.
If you (anyone) don't notice the team rallying around him and/or responding to him, there's no hope for you.
Give Shurmer credit on many fronts. He spoke succinctly about the significance of having a QB who can extend plays; that was blatantly evident yesterday against a very tough and very agressive Bucs' defense.