but last year happened to tune into a Washingston State game.
Everyone was all over the QB from Oregon at the time Justin Herbert
I was amazed by Minshew and could not understand why he was not being mentioned as a top prospect. He reminded me of Romo in style.
Shows how hard it is to mine for QBs in the college ranks
Maybe Coughlin happened to see that same game
Hope our rookie QB comes out firing like this guy
Mike Leach is a incredible coach. I know he has the locking the player in the shed thing which seemed strange all around but he is outstanding. I wonder what he could do in a big program or NFL which I think he would fare very well.
Brady
Russ Wilson
Dak
Foles/Minshew (small sample size for Minshew)
Lamar Jackson
Dalton
Brees/Teddy B
Cousins
Derek Carr
Jimmy G.
Brissett
That's roughly 1/3 of the league.
Mike Leach is a incredible coach. I know he has the locking the player in the shed thing which seemed strange all around but he is outstanding. I wonder what he could do in a big program or NFL which I think he would fare very well.
Saint Tommy strikes again! Hopefully DJ8 can keep pace with the legendary Gardiner Minschew.
Brady
Russ Wilson
Dak
Foles/Minshew (small sample size for Minshew)
Lamar Jackson
Dalton
Brees/Teddy B
Cousins
Derek Carr
Jimmy G.
Brissett
That's roughly 1/3 of the league.
That SF bum rookie qb they dragged out the gutter Mullens had a somewhat respectable year last year.
Better numbers than bbi's favorite qb Darnold on an equally retched team.
Leach contacted Minshew and told him that if he came to the Cougars he would lead the country in passing. I am pretty sure he did.
Leach's offenses are QB friendly which is one of the reasons (along with his accuracy and height) that Minshew dropped a low as he did. Before the draft. I really wanted the Giants to take him.
I hope he continues to do well.
Mariota was one of the best college QBs I've seen in 40 years, and he's been average at best in the NFL.
Mariota was one of the best college QBs I've seen in 40 years, and he's been average at best in the NFL.
Oregon made it easy for him while he was there, but he clearly doesn't have the processing speed to be a good NFL QB. I thought him and Jameis were the most overrated QBs to come out in a while, although I thought Jameis had a chance to be the next Eli Manning. Guess he'll get one year under Arians to turn it around, but doesn't look like that will come to fruition.
all the guy did was look awesome every time I tuned in, and now he is doing it on Sunday's (or Thursday's).
good for him; nice story.
Mike Leach is a incredible coach. I know he has the locking the player in the shed thing which seemed strange all around but he is outstanding. I wonder what he could do in a big program or NFL which I think he would fare very well.
I heard this too. Essentially impressed Coughlin with his attitude. That's a character trait coach always appreciated in players. Bradshaw, Tuck, JPP come to mind. They didn't always work out (projects) but the ones that did were key pieces to the team and culture.
Leach IMHO is one of the greatest offensive football minds ever.
The funniest thing that came out of that whole Craig James war of words nonsense with his son Adam and Mike Leach was the whole CJK5H thing.
After Craig James tried to use his pull at ESPN to get Leach fired. Leach was signing books with that and it went viral. There was signs at the games, t-shirts, hashtags.
The whole Adam Craig saga (although never proven to be 100% true) is a blotch on Leach's record but did supply some laughs and in the end Leach moved on and is still successfully coaching.
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Carr and Breese were just about first round picks. Brady has been in the league 20 years. Maybe just go back 10 years and see what you get.
(distance ball travels past line of scrimmage) is 5.8. 233 of his 556 passing yards are yac(41%).
For comparison, Minshew's average depth of target is 4 yards, and his average air yards per completion is 4 yards. 435 of his 692 passing yards are from yac(62%)
YAC helps quarterbacks.
Last year we averaged 5.7 yac per completion, this year it has dropped to 4.2. Minshew is averaging 6.7 yac per completion.
Your going to be pretty efficient throwing 4 yard passes and getting that much yardage after.
The guy is not exactly putting up pinball type of numbers and points.
The Jags got their OLT back last night, the defense was lights out, and their receivers are much better than advertised. Think we should slow our roll with the praise
Carr and Breese were just about first round picks. Brady has been in the league 20 years. Maybe just go back 10 years and see what you get.
I'm aware. As was Teddy B, which is why I said late firsts and non-first round picks.
Also, if you go back just 10 years, you're only removing 2 names from that list.
You could also note that Pittsburgh, who just lost Ben, are going with a mid-rounder in Rudolph, while at the same time trading away their 2019 first. Seems logical they like him enough to attempt to move forward with him post Ben.
Minshew had NFL written all over him to me
Why? Because of his decision making and accuracy.
The scouts seem to rely more upon physical capabilities and pedigree. With that guage you wind up with a Mariotta, Bridgewater, Darnold, Winston or Cam Newton. OK but ehhhh, no SBs from that group.
Darnold is a work in progress but so far I'm not jumping up and down. Jets are cursed.
I think sometimes the GMs see what we see but are afraid to be ridiculed or fired because they didnt draft the people the mock drafts were telling them to.
Coughlin made this call but he waited til the 6th round. Sounds like he was hedging his bet a bit.
You have to hand it to Gettleman and Shurmur. They liked what they saw and ignored the "Fransesca-type" herd. From my viewpoint only Walther Football was telling them to pull the trigger at #6. They said Jones was likely going in the 1st round, the Giants could not afford to gamble he would still be there. Only time will tell, and the other 26 teams behind them are not talking.
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and Minshew is being way over-hyped at this point.
Carr and Breese were just about first round picks. Brady has been in the league 20 years. Maybe just go back 10 years and see what you get.
I'm aware. As was Teddy B, which is why I said late firsts and non-first round picks.
Also, if you go back just 10 years, you're only removing 2 names from that list.
You could also note that Pittsburgh, who just lost Ben, are going with a mid-rounder in Rudolph, while at the same time trading away their 2019 first. Seems logical they like him enough to attempt to move forward with him post Ben.
Big Ben is signed through 2021. So, trading a 2020 1 doesn't mean they are 100% sold on their QB. What is your point exactly with your list? Why is a late first rounder not considered a first rounder? So, not every NFL team has a top 10 drafted QB starting for them? We all know this. It has been this way for ever. Rodgers was drafted at like 25, why isn't he on this list?
Yeah that 2nd TD to Chark was a dump off. Never change Stan, never change.
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Haha, man you really are the best. Go watch yesterday’s highlightd, he threw downfield all game long. I counted at least 6 or 7 passes alone that travelled what seemed like 20+ yards.
14 passes about under 5 yards, with an additional 7-8 yard completion that went for a TD.
Going 5-7 beyond 10 yards is excellent though.
They had a lead, Fournette was getting stuffed and he passed him a bunch of stuff underneath - that's kind of the gamescript he was working with. He's still right in the middle of the league in yards per pass, and seems to be highly efficient. His ball placement looked really good yesterday (I did not watch him last week).
The young WR's look to be atleast decent but he doesn't have some elite WR corps.
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Can't believe this is a Saint Tommy guy.
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how a college player will perform in the NFL, because the talent disparity and speed of the game are much faster.
Mariota was one of the best college QBs I've seen in 40 years, and he's been average at best in the NFL.
Oregon made it easy for him while he was there, but he clearly doesn't have the processing speed to be a good NFL QB. I thought him and Jameis were the most overrated QBs to come out in a while, although I thought Jameis had a chance to be the next Eli Manning. Guess he'll get one year under Arians to turn it around, but doesn't look like that will come to fruition.
I was a big Mariota fan but injuries and constant changing of offenses hindered him. It doesn't mean he would have been a super star but watch Mariota is a real life How Not To book on bringing along a QB. I know people want Shurmur gone but I don't agree with that. Change for the sake of change is actually bad when you talk about having a young QB develop. You can fine exceptions where a QB had multiple offenses early in his vareer and succeeded but it isn't ideal. I haven't been impressed with Shurmur and I was one that wanted him. However, he will 100% be brought back to work with Daniel Jones. He gets at least this year and next year with him imo.
Excellent post, because I tend to agree..:)
The kid was terrific. Very impressive in every way.