it's very likely that Bill didn't know about the sexual assault allegations when they signed him, so these questions were probably a blindside to him.
They only knew that AB tried to fistfight a general manager, missed practice time for ruining his feet, made a scene by showing up to training camp in a hot air balloon, has previously thrown furniture out of highrises, threatened retirement because his helmet was no longer approved as safe, publicly called on the Steelers to trade him on Twitter because he was unhappy, publicly called on the Raiders to release him on Twitter before he played a single snap with them because he was unhappy, called his GM a racial slur, punted a football across the field during practice stating "Fine me for that!", was in fact fined for that, and was so detrimental to the Raiders they determined they could void $30 million in guarantees of his contract.
So yeah, the Patriots most likely didn't know about the sexual assault and found it to be an unwelcome and unexpected distraction."
Ya know, you're really nit-picking with that rant.
(...And you forgot about uploading a private phone call with his head coach to YouTube.)
it's very likely that Bill didn't know about the sexual assault allegations when they signed him, so these questions were probably a blindside to him.
They only knew that AB tried to fistfight a general manager, missed practice time for ruining his feet, made a scene by showing up to training camp in a hot air balloon, has previously thrown furniture out of highrises, threatened retirement because his helmet was no longer approved as safe, publicly called on the Steelers to trade him on Twitter because he was unhappy, publicly called on the Raiders to release him on Twitter before he played a single snap with them because he was unhappy, called his GM a racial slur, punted a football across the field during practice stating "Fine me for that!", was in fact fined for that, and was so detrimental to the Raiders they determined they could void $30 million in guarantees of his contract.
So yeah, the Patriots most likely didn't know about the sexual assault and found it to be an unwelcome and unexpected distraction."
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RE: I took a lot of hits for saying this weeks ago Â
But I think AB has serious issues needs some intervention / professional help. All the signs point to him being increasingly violent.
I wouldn’t argue with you for one second. Listening to him reading his words if they are truly his is actually scary. There is some kind of personality disorder either playing out or entering his life anew
IMHO
it's very likely that Bill didn't know about the sexual assault allegations when they signed him, so these questions were probably a blindside to him.
They only knew that AB tried to fistfight a general manager, missed practice time for ruining his feet, made a scene by showing up to training camp in a hot air balloon, has previously thrown furniture out of highrises, threatened retirement because his helmet was no longer approved as safe, publicly called on the Steelers to trade him on Twitter because he was unhappy, publicly called on the Raiders to release him on Twitter before he played a single snap with them because he was unhappy, called his GM a racial slur, punted a football across the field during practice stating "Fine me for that!", was in fact fined for that, and was so detrimental to the Raiders they determined they could void $30 million in guarantees of his contract.
So yeah, the Patriots most likely didn't know about the sexual assault and found it to be an unwelcome and unexpected distraction."
it's very likely that Bill didn't know about the sexual assault allegations when they signed him, so these questions were probably a blindside to him.
They only knew that AB tried to fistfight a general manager, missed practice time for ruining his feet, made a scene by showing up to training camp in a hot air balloon, has previously thrown furniture out of highrises, threatened retirement because his helmet was no longer approved as safe, publicly called on the Steelers to trade him on Twitter because he was unhappy, publicly called on the Raiders to release him on Twitter before he played a single snap with them because he was unhappy, called his GM a racial slur, punted a football across the field during practice stating "Fine me for that!", was in fact fined for that, and was so detrimental to the Raiders they determined they could void $30 million in guarantees of his contract.
So yeah, the Patriots most likely didn't know about the sexual assault and found it to be an unwelcome and unexpected distraction."
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Idk, I think there's a difference between being a belligerent jackass and a rapist. The Pats thought he was only the former.
RE: I took a lot of hits for saying this weeks ago Â
But I think AB has serious issues needs some intervention / professional help. All the signs point to him being increasingly violent.
You didn’t get hits for saying that. I think most people would agree with you. I certainly do. He needs help. But what you got hits on was you were treating him like a sympathetic figure. He deserves no sympathy whatsoever.
You wonder if there is any clawback for his bonus money. It wouldn’t be the first time partial bonus money was recovered
I think it was $1mm base. The rest of the $9mm was roster bonuses?im sure someone who knows for sure will chime in. But... he’s not getting all that $9mm.
He’s definitely getting 1 game check - and that might be it.
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This AB saga is one of the craziest stories the NFL has seen in a long time, so of course Francesa gets Eddie Coleman on immediately to talk Mets.
filed under "million dollar body(athlete)/ 10 cent brain" …. or something like that. His career might be over? Who wants to pay a guy millions of dollars for a headache that big?
If Dallas didn't have to pay Cooper - that would probably be his next stop?
Maybe he made a bet with a friend that says he could sign with every team before he retires …. ; )
I think there's a good chance he gets some kind of treatment, and then we get the usual reputation-rehab tour: The tearful interview on 20/20 or 60 Minutes, the talk show circuit, the humble supplication to return to football.
Or maybe he's just lost it altogether.
He is just mis-understood Bungle. Poor people are crazy … Brown is eccentric … soon to be crazy in about 5 years?
CTE. No way in hell you throw away an opportunity like he had with the Pats. 5 dollars say he’s the first patient they’re able to see CTE in cat scans while he’s still alive.
You wonder if there is any clawback for his bonus money. It wouldn’t be the first time partial bonus money was recovered
I think it was $1mm base. The rest of the $9mm was roster bonuses?im sure someone who knows for sure will chime in. But... he’s not getting all that $9mm.
He’s definitely getting 1 game check - and that might be it.
I heard on the radio he was due a 5 mil roster bonus Monday.
on his podcast said the rumblings in the league earlier in the week was he was going to get smacked with a long suspension and another woman came forward (which I think turned out to be the trainer).
This is what probably came to pass and once the word started to come down, the Pats dumped him.
He's not right in the head anyway you slice it, either with mental illness before or CTE related problems. And Rosenhaus is a piece of shit who clearly doesn't give a crap about his client, he's got to be aware that he's sick and he will try to peddle him to the next team.
CTE. No way in hell you throw away an opportunity like he had with the Pats. 5 dollars say he’s the first patient they’re able to see CTE in cat scans while he’s still alive.
he is just an asshole. He has forbidden people who work for him to look him in the face.
CTE takes years to develop. This guy is just a jerk.
You wonder if there is any clawback for his bonus money. It wouldn’t be the first time partial bonus money was recovered
I think it was $1mm base. The rest of the $9mm was roster bonuses?im sure someone who knows for sure will chime in. But... he’s not getting all that $9mm.
He’s definitely getting 1 game check - and that might be it.
I heard on the radio he was due a 5 mil roster bonus Monday.
Boston news station said 9 mil. not sure which is correct.
CTE. No way in hell you throw away an opportunity like he had with the Pats. 5 dollars say he’s the first patient they’re able to see CTE in cat scans while he’s still alive.
Well, no, it doesn't have to be CTE. There are other ways he could be "off." Undiagnosed bipolar, etc. But yeah, if there's a test for CTE, if I was his family, I'd want him to get tested.
CTE takes years to develop. People need to start accepting responsibility for their actions rather than find things to blame being an ass on
When former Bengal Chris Henry died from his own stupid actions, he was 27 years old, 4 years younger than AB. In his autopsy they found advanced CTE. So you are wrong that it always takes a long time to develop.
But I think AB has serious issues needs some intervention / professional help. All the signs point to him being increasingly violent.
You didn’t get hits for saying that. I think most people would agree with you. I certainly do. He needs help. But what you got hits on was you were treating him like a sympathetic figure. He deserves no sympathy whatsoever.
Well, I think there were a lot of people saying that he was a selfish jerk playing the system for more money, and then later, intentionally angling himself onto the Patriots. That too is a reasonable position to take, but I don’t think it’s true.
I am sympathetic to a mental illness, though have no sympathy for him being abusive, it’s complicated and I think he needs help or will end up in jail or self harm. I don’t want that nor do I want him out there creating more victims,
Are that dumb and didn’t do due diligence on brown shame on them both. Kraft better pay the perv what’s he’s owed and take the cap hit
Even so called fuckin nfl experts don’t know what his contract was is and how much $$$ raiders paid out In bonus shit $$$$. Hope Rosenhaus takes it to Kraft
He probably no empathy simply because his parents treated him like simple trash when he was a kid. Football saved his life and he now has no empathy for others because of that trauma.
He’s got some serious mental stuff to work through. I’m surprised Brandon Marshall hasn’t reached out to him.
I wonder what Gezelle thought of him staying in her house with her kids.
saying pats did the right thing.....sure they did, after trying their hardest not too. And their scumbag fans gave the guy a huge ovation for his first catch in Miami. They truly will root for the absolute worst human beings as long as they are wearing the Foxboro uniform. Not that anyone paying attention didn't already know full well that from Kraft on down, that organization is as classless and shady as it gets....fans included. Actually, AB fit right in.
Need to pay the perv who jacks off on trainer.
Like I said agent needs to go after his$$$. Lib shit really really getting old I guess he’s got cte too.
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on his podcast said the rumblings in the league earlier in the week was he was going to get smacked with a long suspension and another woman came forward (which I think turned out to be the trainer).
This is what probably came to pass and once the word started to come down, the Pats dumped him.
He's not right in the head anyway you slice it, either with mental illness before or CTE related problems. And Rosenhaus is a piece of shit who clearly doesn't give a crap about his client, he's got to be aware that he's sick and he will try to peddle him to the next team.
Rosenhaus is absolute scum. Brown hadn’t even left the building yet and instead of just laying low for a bit, Rosenhaus is on Twitter telling teams that AB is healthy and ready to join another team. Despicable. Money sure does bring out the worst in people.
Where is the proof of that? I think he is just an ass.
I said he has issues. That may or may not reach the level of mental illness. But what he's doing is not normal. He could be sick, or he could be an ass. He could also be sick AND an ass.
AB did not actually blow his opportunity with the Pats Â
This all happened BEFORE he signed with them. The Pats either did not know OR did not know it would come out so soon.
Either way, the die was cast months ago for AB. The Pats had no choice when the news broke.
He sent the threatening texts to the 2nd accuser on Wednesday, as in 2 nights ago.
Now, Pats may have been forced to act anyway when the news of the second accuser broke, but he’s 100% guilty of continuing to act like an asshole after signing with the Pats
RE: RE: AB did not actually blow his opportunity with the Pats Â
This all happened BEFORE he signed with them. The Pats either did not know OR did not know it would come out so soon.
Either way, the die was cast months ago for AB. The Pats had no choice when the news broke.
He sent the threatening texts to the 2nd accuser on Wednesday, as in 2 nights ago.
Now, Pats may have been forced to act anyway when the news of the second accuser broke, but he’s 100% guilty of continuing to act like an asshole after signing with the Pats
You are right. That was a stupid move on his part. I had forgotten about it. I would still say the die was cast before he got there, but he certainly accelerated the process.
Yeah agreed...I think a lot of people had a feeling Â
How many times have we heard in the media and on this message board that Odell is off his rocker and if he acted like Antonio Brown, he'd be better off. I could pull up all kinds of instances of this when Odell played for us.
Not saying that Odell is a perfect role model, but Brown's nonsense is far worse than anything we've heard substantiated about Odell
You wonder if there is any clawback for his bonus money. It wouldn’t be the first time partial bonus money was recovered
They only knew that AB tried to fistfight a general manager, missed practice time for ruining his feet, made a scene by showing up to training camp in a hot air balloon, has previously thrown furniture out of highrises, threatened retirement because his helmet was no longer approved as safe, publicly called on the Steelers to trade him on Twitter because he was unhappy, publicly called on the Raiders to release him on Twitter before he played a single snap with them because he was unhappy, called his GM a racial slur, punted a football across the field during practice stating "Fine me for that!", was in fact fined for that, and was so detrimental to the Raiders they determined they could void $30 million in guarantees of his contract.
So yeah, the Patriots most likely didn't know about the sexual assault and found it to be an unwelcome and unexpected distraction."
Ya know, you're really nit-picking with that rant.
(...And you forgot about uploading a private phone call with his head coach to YouTube.)
They only knew that AB tried to fistfight a general manager, missed practice time for ruining his feet, made a scene by showing up to training camp in a hot air balloon, has previously thrown furniture out of highrises, threatened retirement because his helmet was no longer approved as safe, publicly called on the Steelers to trade him on Twitter because he was unhappy, publicly called on the Raiders to release him on Twitter before he played a single snap with them because he was unhappy, called his GM a racial slur, punted a football across the field during practice stating "Fine me for that!", was in fact fined for that, and was so detrimental to the Raiders they determined they could void $30 million in guarantees of his contract.
So yeah, the Patriots most likely didn't know about the sexual assault and found it to be an unwelcome and unexpected distraction."
+1
I wouldn’t argue with you for one second. Listening to him reading his words if they are truly his is actually scary. There is some kind of personality disorder either playing out or entering his life anew
IMHO
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it's very likely that Bill didn't know about the sexual assault allegations when they signed him, so these questions were probably a blindside to him.
They only knew that AB tried to fistfight a general manager, missed practice time for ruining his feet, made a scene by showing up to training camp in a hot air balloon, has previously thrown furniture out of highrises, threatened retirement because his helmet was no longer approved as safe, publicly called on the Steelers to trade him on Twitter because he was unhappy, publicly called on the Raiders to release him on Twitter before he played a single snap with them because he was unhappy, called his GM a racial slur, punted a football across the field during practice stating "Fine me for that!", was in fact fined for that, and was so detrimental to the Raiders they determined they could void $30 million in guarantees of his contract.
So yeah, the Patriots most likely didn't know about the sexual assault and found it to be an unwelcome and unexpected distraction."
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it's very likely that Bill didn't know about the sexual assault allegations when they signed him, so these questions were probably a blindside to him.
They only knew that AB tried to fistfight a general manager, missed practice time for ruining his feet, made a scene by showing up to training camp in a hot air balloon, has previously thrown furniture out of highrises, threatened retirement because his helmet was no longer approved as safe, publicly called on the Steelers to trade him on Twitter because he was unhappy, publicly called on the Raiders to release him on Twitter before he played a single snap with them because he was unhappy, called his GM a racial slur, punted a football across the field during practice stating "Fine me for that!", was in fact fined for that, and was so detrimental to the Raiders they determined they could void $30 million in guarantees of his contract.
So yeah, the Patriots most likely didn't know about the sexual assault and found it to be an unwelcome and unexpected distraction."
+1
Idk, I think there's a difference between being a belligerent jackass and a rapist. The Pats thought he was only the former.
You didn’t get hits for saying that. I think most people would agree with you. I certainly do. He needs help. But what you got hits on was you were treating him like a sympathetic figure. He deserves no sympathy whatsoever.
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$9m to play one game? Should cover his legal fees
You wonder if there is any clawback for his bonus money. It wouldn’t be the first time partial bonus money was recovered
I think it was $1mm base. The rest of the $9mm was roster bonuses?im sure someone who knows for sure will chime in. But... he’s not getting all that $9mm.
He’s definitely getting 1 game check - and that might be it.
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This AB saga is one of the craziest stories the NFL has seen in a long time, so of course Francesa gets Eddie Coleman on immediately to talk Mets.
Beckham is annoying and whiney. He's not a bad dude.
If Dallas didn't have to pay Cooper - that would probably be his next stop?
Maybe he made a bet with a friend that says he could sign with every team before he retires …. ; )
Dallas?
Probably can't afford him … or they will try to mortgage the future (is it possible?) to win now?
I think the Pats felt really duped by this guy when he obviously hid information from them when Brown was signing.
Or maybe he's just lost it altogether.
He is just mis-understood Bungle. Poor people are crazy … Brown is eccentric … soon to be crazy in about 5 years?
I just think BB realizes that Roger is going to give him the old youre an asshole and are a bad look for the league suspension he gave Zeke.
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$9m to play one game? Should cover his legal fees
You wonder if there is any clawback for his bonus money. It wouldn’t be the first time partial bonus money was recovered
I think it was $1mm base. The rest of the $9mm was roster bonuses?im sure someone who knows for sure will chime in. But... he’s not getting all that $9mm.
He’s definitely getting 1 game check - and that might be it.
I heard on the radio he was due a 5 mil roster bonus Monday.
This is what probably came to pass and once the word started to come down, the Pats dumped him.
He's not right in the head anyway you slice it, either with mental illness before or CTE related problems. And Rosenhaus is a piece of shit who clearly doesn't give a crap about his client, he's got to be aware that he's sick and he will try to peddle him to the next team.
he is just an asshole. He has forbidden people who work for him to look him in the face.
CTE takes years to develop. This guy is just a jerk.
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$9m to play one game? Should cover his legal fees
You wonder if there is any clawback for his bonus money. It wouldn’t be the first time partial bonus money was recovered
I think it was $1mm base. The rest of the $9mm was roster bonuses?im sure someone who knows for sure will chime in. But... he’s not getting all that $9mm.
He’s definitely getting 1 game check - and that might be it.
I heard on the radio he was due a 5 mil roster bonus Monday.
Boston news station said 9 mil. not sure which is correct.
His jersey's gonna read:
"She Hate Me"
When former Bengal Chris Henry died from his own stupid actions, he was 27 years old, 4 years younger than AB. In his autopsy they found advanced CTE. So you are wrong that it always takes a long time to develop.
"facing adversity".
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But I think AB has serious issues needs some intervention / professional help. All the signs point to him being increasingly violent.
You didn’t get hits for saying that. I think most people would agree with you. I certainly do. He needs help. But what you got hits on was you were treating him like a sympathetic figure. He deserves no sympathy whatsoever.
Well, I think there were a lot of people saying that he was a selfish jerk playing the system for more money, and then later, intentionally angling himself onto the Patriots. That too is a reasonable position to take, but I don’t think it’s true.
I am sympathetic to a mental illness, though have no sympathy for him being abusive, it’s complicated and I think he needs help or will end up in jail or self harm. I don’t want that nor do I want him out there creating more victims,
Even so called fuckin nfl experts don’t know what his contract was is and how much $$$ raiders paid out In bonus shit $$$$. Hope Rosenhaus takes it to Kraft
He’s got some serious mental stuff to work through. I’m surprised Brandon Marshall hasn’t reached out to him.
I wonder what Gezelle thought of him staying in her house with her kids.
Like I said agent needs to go after his$$$. Lib shit really really getting old I guess he’s got cte too.
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This is what probably came to pass and once the word started to come down, the Pats dumped him.
He's not right in the head anyway you slice it, either with mental illness before or CTE related problems. And Rosenhaus is a piece of shit who clearly doesn't give a crap about his client, he's got to be aware that he's sick and he will try to peddle him to the next team.
Rosenhaus is absolute scum. Brown hadn’t even left the building yet and instead of just laying low for a bit, Rosenhaus is on Twitter telling teams that AB is healthy and ready to join another team. Despicable. Money sure does bring out the worst in people.
They deserve to have the thing cut short.
This all happened BEFORE he signed with them. The Pats either did not know OR did not know it would come out so soon.
Either way, the die was cast months ago for AB. The Pats had no choice when the news broke.
This all happened BEFORE he signed with them. The Pats either did not know OR did not know it would come out so soon.
Either way, the die was cast months ago for AB. The Pats had no choice when the news broke.
He sent the threatening texts to the 2nd accuser on Wednesday, as in 2 nights ago.
Now, Pats may have been forced to act anyway when the news of the second accuser broke, but he’s 100% guilty of continuing to act like an asshole after signing with the Pats
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He may have been on his best behavior with them.
This all happened BEFORE he signed with them. The Pats either did not know OR did not know it would come out so soon.
Either way, the die was cast months ago for AB. The Pats had no choice when the news broke.
He sent the threatening texts to the 2nd accuser on Wednesday, as in 2 nights ago.
Now, Pats may have been forced to act anyway when the news of the second accuser broke, but he’s 100% guilty of continuing to act like an asshole after signing with the Pats
You are right. That was a stupid move on his part. I had forgotten about it. I would still say the die was cast before he got there, but he certainly accelerated the process.
Not saying that Odell is a perfect role model, but Brown's nonsense is far worse than anything we've heard substantiated about Odell
That's what I was thinking. OBJ and AB sharing receptions.
The allegations were out before he signed with the Pats, just now circulated.