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Mr. Bungle : 9/20/2019 4:15 pm
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RE: So he got paid  
SJGiant : 9/20/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14589992 Everyone Relax said:
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$9m to play one game? Should cover his legal fees


You wonder if there is any clawback for his bonus money. It wouldnít be the first time partial bonus money was recovered
Football will be the least of his concerns  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/20/2019 4:49 pm : link
When heís in prison.
Guessing he is headed for a suspension  
Steve in ATL : 9/20/2019 4:51 pm : link
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I took a lot of hits for saying this weeks ago  
DonQuixote : 9/20/2019 4:53 pm : link
But I think AB has serious issues needs some intervention / professional help. All the signs point to him being increasingly violent.
RE:  
Mr. Bungle : 9/20/2019 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14589994 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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it's very likely that Bill didn't know about the sexual assault allegations when they signed him, so these questions were probably a blindside to him.

They only knew that AB tried to fistfight a general manager, missed practice time for ruining his feet, made a scene by showing up to training camp in a hot air balloon, has previously thrown furniture out of highrises, threatened retirement because his helmet was no longer approved as safe, publicly called on the Steelers to trade him on Twitter because he was unhappy, publicly called on the Raiders to release him on Twitter before he played a single snap with them because he was unhappy, called his GM a racial slur, punted a football across the field during practice stating "Fine me for that!", was in fact fined for that, and was so detrimental to the Raiders they determined they could void $30 million in guarantees of his contract.

So yeah, the Patriots most likely didn't know about the sexual assault and found it to be an unwelcome and unexpected distraction."

Ya know, you're really nit-picking with that rant.


(...And you forgot about uploading a private phone call with his head coach to YouTube.)
RE:  
DonQuixote : 9/20/2019 4:58 pm : link
In comment 14589994 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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it's very likely that Bill didn't know about the sexual assault allegations when they signed him, so these questions were probably a blindside to him.

They only knew that AB tried to fistfight a general manager, missed practice time for ruining his feet, made a scene by showing up to training camp in a hot air balloon, has previously thrown furniture out of highrises, threatened retirement because his helmet was no longer approved as safe, publicly called on the Steelers to trade him on Twitter because he was unhappy, publicly called on the Raiders to release him on Twitter before he played a single snap with them because he was unhappy, called his GM a racial slur, punted a football across the field during practice stating "Fine me for that!", was in fact fined for that, and was so detrimental to the Raiders they determined they could void $30 million in guarantees of his contract.

So yeah, the Patriots most likely didn't know about the sexual assault and found it to be an unwelcome and unexpected distraction."


+1
RE: I took a lot of hits for saying this weeks ago  
greek13 : 9/20/2019 4:58 pm : link
In comment 14590008 DonQuixote said:
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But I think AB has serious issues needs some intervention / professional help. All the signs point to him being increasingly violent.


I wouldnít argue with you for one second. Listening to him reading his words if they are truly his is actually scary. There is some kind of personality disorder either playing out or entering his life anew
IMHO
RE: RE:  
AcidTest : 9/20/2019 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14590010 DonQuixote said:
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In comment 14589994 LawrenceTaylor56 said:


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it's very likely that Bill didn't know about the sexual assault allegations when they signed him, so these questions were probably a blindside to him.

They only knew that AB tried to fistfight a general manager, missed practice time for ruining his feet, made a scene by showing up to training camp in a hot air balloon, has previously thrown furniture out of highrises, threatened retirement because his helmet was no longer approved as safe, publicly called on the Steelers to trade him on Twitter because he was unhappy, publicly called on the Raiders to release him on Twitter before he played a single snap with them because he was unhappy, called his GM a racial slur, punted a football across the field during practice stating "Fine me for that!", was in fact fined for that, and was so detrimental to the Raiders they determined they could void $30 million in guarantees of his contract.

So yeah, the Patriots most likely didn't know about the sexual assault and found it to be an unwelcome and unexpected distraction."



+1


+2.
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Brown Recluse : 9/20/2019 5:00 pm : link
Patriots once again doing the right thing right when a controversy shows its self, while the Giants tried to keep secrets over a freakin kicker

RE: RE:  
Mike from SI : 9/20/2019 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14590010 DonQuixote said:
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In comment 14589994 LawrenceTaylor56 said:


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it's very likely that Bill didn't know about the sexual assault allegations when they signed him, so these questions were probably a blindside to him.

They only knew that AB tried to fistfight a general manager, missed practice time for ruining his feet, made a scene by showing up to training camp in a hot air balloon, has previously thrown furniture out of highrises, threatened retirement because his helmet was no longer approved as safe, publicly called on the Steelers to trade him on Twitter because he was unhappy, publicly called on the Raiders to release him on Twitter before he played a single snap with them because he was unhappy, called his GM a racial slur, punted a football across the field during practice stating "Fine me for that!", was in fact fined for that, and was so detrimental to the Raiders they determined they could void $30 million in guarantees of his contract.

So yeah, the Patriots most likely didn't know about the sexual assault and found it to be an unwelcome and unexpected distraction."



+1


Idk, I think there's a difference between being a belligerent jackass and a rapist. The Pats thought he was only the former.
RE: I took a lot of hits for saying this weeks ago  
BigBlueShock : 9/20/2019 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14590008 DonQuixote said:
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But I think AB has serious issues needs some intervention / professional help. All the signs point to him being increasingly violent.

You didnít get hits for saying that. I think most people would agree with you. I certainly do. He needs help. But what you got hits on was you were treating him like a sympathetic figure. He deserves no sympathy whatsoever.
How to Ruin a Career in Two Short Months  
Steve L : 9/20/2019 5:03 pm : link
By Antonio Brown
RE: RE: So he got paid  
GiantsRage2007 : 9/20/2019 5:05 pm : link
In comment 14590003 SJGiant said:
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In comment 14589992 Everyone Relax said:


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$9m to play one game? Should cover his legal fees



You wonder if there is any clawback for his bonus money. It wouldnít be the first time partial bonus money was recovered


I think it was $1mm base. The rest of the $9mm was roster bonuses?im sure someone who knows for sure will chime in. But... heís not getting all that $9mm.

Heís definitely getting 1 game check - and that might be it.
Hahahahahaha:  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/20/2019 5:09 pm : link
Ƒunhouse
@BackAftaThis

5m
This AB saga is one of the craziest stories the NFL has seen in a long time, so of course Francesa gets Eddie Coleman on immediately to talk Mets.
...  
christian : 9/20/2019 5:10 pm : link
This is where the comparisons to OBJ were always silly. This is a guy who's exhibited some real world character flaws.

Beckham is annoying and whiney. He's not a bad dude.
What a clown ....  
short lease : 9/20/2019 5:18 pm : link
filed under "million dollar body(athlete)/ 10 cent brain" Ö. or something like that. His career might be over? Who wants to pay a guy millions of dollars for a headache that big?

If Dallas didn't have to pay Cooper - that would probably be his next stop?

Maybe he made a bet with a friend that says he could sign with every team before he retires Ö. ; )
RE: Iím sure  
short lease : 9/20/2019 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14589960 5BowlsSoon said:
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He will be picked up by someone.....



Dallas?


Probably can't afford him Ö or they will try to mortgage the future (is it possible?) to win now?
I really hope that other immoral...  
bw in dc : 9/20/2019 5:25 pm : link
ass-face Rosenhaus take a hit here, too.

I think the Pats felt really duped by this guy when he obviously hid information from them when Brown was signing.



RE: AB seems to have, um, issues.  
short lease : 9/20/2019 5:25 pm : link
In comment 14589978 81_Great_Dane said:
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I think there's a good chance he gets some kind of treatment, and then we get the usual reputation-rehab tour: The tearful interview on 20/20 or 60 Minutes, the talk show circuit, the humble supplication to return to football.

Or maybe he's just lost it altogether.


He is just mis-understood Bungle. Poor people are crazy Ö Brown is eccentric Ö soon to be crazy in about 5 years?

I am not sure what feels more  
jvm52106 : 9/20/2019 5:25 pm : link
scummy, this whole ordeal with AB or hearing Drew Rosenhaus try and sell AB to other teams.
Itís gotta be  
tyrik13 : 9/20/2019 5:36 pm : link
CTE. No way in hell you throw away an opportunity like he had with the Pats. 5 dollars say heís the first patient theyíre able to see CTE in cat scans while heís still alive.
RE: Suggests there's more shit flowing his way  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/20/2019 5:40 pm : link
In comment 14589979 JonC said:
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perhaps the rape allegations or more.


I just think BB realizes that Roger is going to give him the old youre an asshole and are a bad look for the league suspension he gave Zeke.
RE: RE: RE: So he got paid  
ron mexico : 9/20/2019 5:55 pm : link
In comment 14590018 GiantsRage2007 said:
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In comment 14589992 Everyone Relax said:


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$9m to play one game? Should cover his legal fees



You wonder if there is any clawback for his bonus money. It wouldnít be the first time partial bonus money was recovered



I think it was $1mm base. The rest of the $9mm was roster bonuses?im sure someone who knows for sure will chime in. But... heís not getting all that $9mm.

Heís definitely getting 1 game check - and that might be it.


I heard on the radio he was due a 5 mil roster bonus Monday.
Kick the tires?  
SterlingArcher : 9/20/2019 5:57 pm : link
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Dave TE  
Matt in SGS : 9/20/2019 6:00 pm : link
on his podcast said the rumblings in the league earlier in the week was he was going to get smacked with a long suspension and another woman came forward (which I think turned out to be the trainer).

This is what probably came to pass and once the word started to come down, the Pats dumped him.

He's not right in the head anyway you slice it, either with mental illness before or CTE related problems. And Rosenhaus is a piece of shit who clearly doesn't give a crap about his client, he's got to be aware that he's sick and he will try to peddle him to the next team.
RE: Itís gotta be  
Vanzetti : 9/20/2019 6:09 pm : link
In comment 14590039 tyrik13 said:
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CTE. No way in hell you throw away an opportunity like he had with the Pats. 5 dollars say heís the first patient theyíre able to see CTE in cat scans while heís still alive.


he is just an asshole. He has forbidden people who work for him to look him in the face.

CTE takes years to develop. This guy is just a jerk.
RE: RE: RE: RE: So he got paid  
Blue21 : 9/20/2019 6:40 pm : link
In comment 14590047 ron mexico said:
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In comment 14590003 SJGiant said:


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In comment 14589992 Everyone Relax said:


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$9m to play one game? Should cover his legal fees



You wonder if there is any clawback for his bonus money. It wouldnít be the first time partial bonus money was recovered



I think it was $1mm base. The rest of the $9mm was roster bonuses?im sure someone who knows for sure will chime in. But... heís not getting all that $9mm.

Heís definitely getting 1 game check - and that might be it.



I heard on the radio he was due a 5 mil roster bonus Monday.


Boston news station said 9 mil. not sure which is correct.
RE: Itís gotta be  
81_Great_Dane : 9/20/2019 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14590039 tyrik13 said:
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CTE. No way in hell you throw away an opportunity like he had with the Pats. 5 dollars say heís the first patient theyíre able to see CTE in cat scans while heís still alive.
Well, no, it doesn't have to be CTE. There are other ways he could be "off." Undiagnosed bipolar, etc. But yeah, if there's a test for CTE, if I was his family, I'd want him to get tested.
RE: XFL bound  
ChaChing : 9/20/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14589974 Jints in Carolina said:
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His jersey's gonna read:

"She Hate Me"
He's just an idiot, not everyone who is an idiot has CTE  
PatersonPlank : 9/20/2019 7:05 pm : link
CTE takes years to develop. People need to start accepting responsibility for their actions rather than find things to blame being an ass on
RE: He's just an idiot, not everyone who is an idiot has CTE  
AndyMilligan : 9/20/2019 7:07 pm : link
In comment 14590102 PatersonPlank said:
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CTE takes years to develop. People need to start accepting responsibility for their actions rather than find things to blame being an ass on

When former Bengal Chris Henry died from his own stupid actions, he was 27 years old, 4 years younger than AB. In his autopsy they found advanced CTE. So you are wrong that it always takes a long time to develop.
Patriots knew about pervs past tried to skate  
big canoe jeff : 9/20/2019 7:08 pm : link
Kraft and and Bill should be forced to pay him and take the cap hit
According to the NFL Network..  
ZogZerg : 9/20/2019 7:14 pm : link
Threatening and sexually assaulting women is
"facing adversity".

RE: RE: I took a lot of hits for saying this weeks ago  
DonQuixote : 9/20/2019 7:23 pm : link
In comment 14590016 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 14590008 DonQuixote said:


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But I think AB has serious issues needs some intervention / professional help. All the signs point to him being increasingly violent.


You didnít get hits for saying that. I think most people would agree with you. I certainly do. He needs help. But what you got hits on was you were treating him like a sympathetic figure. He deserves no sympathy whatsoever.


Well, I think there were a lot of people saying that he was a selfish jerk playing the system for more money, and then later, intentionally angling himself onto the Patriots. That too is a reasonable position to take, but I donít think itís true.

I am sympathetic to a mental illness, though have no sympathy for him being abusive, itís complicated and I think he needs help or will end up in jail or self harm. I donít want that nor do I want him out there creating more victims,

If both raiders and patriots  
big canoe jeff : 9/20/2019 7:31 pm : link
Are that dumb and didnít do due diligence on brown shame on them both. Kraft better pay the perv whatís heís owed and take the cap hit
Even so called fuckin nfl experts donít know what his contract was is and how much $$$ raiders paid out In bonus shit $$$$. Hope Rosenhaus takes it to Kraft
He was living on the streets in high school  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 9/20/2019 7:37 pm : link
He probably no empathy simply because his parents treated him like simple trash when he was a kid. Football saved his life and he now has no empathy for others because of that trauma.

Heís got some serious mental stuff to work through. Iím surprised Brandon Marshall hasnít reached out to him.

I wonder what Gezelle thought of him staying in her house with her kids.
Gotta love the people  
SeanLandeta : 9/20/2019 7:46 pm : link
saying pats did the right thing.....sure they did, after trying their hardest not too. And their scumbag fans gave the guy a huge ovation for his first catch in Miami. They truly will root for the absolute worst human beings as long as they are wearing the Foxboro uniform. Not that anyone paying attention didn't already know full well that from Kraft on down, that organization is as classless and shady as it gets....fans included. Actually, AB fit right in.
A contract is a Contract  
big canoe jeff : 9/20/2019 7:56 pm : link
Need to pay the perv who jacks off on trainer.
Like I said agent needs to go after his$$$. Lib shit really really getting old I guess heís got cte too.
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RE: Dave TE  
BigBlueShock : 9/20/2019 8:08 pm : link
In comment 14590052 Matt in SGS said:
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on his podcast said the rumblings in the league earlier in the week was he was going to get smacked with a long suspension and another woman came forward (which I think turned out to be the trainer).

This is what probably came to pass and once the word started to come down, the Pats dumped him.

He's not right in the head anyway you slice it, either with mental illness before or CTE related problems. And Rosenhaus is a piece of shit who clearly doesn't give a crap about his client, he's got to be aware that he's sick and he will try to peddle him to the next team.

Rosenhaus is absolute scum. Brown hadnít even left the building yet and instead of just laying low for a bit, Rosenhaus is on Twitter telling teams that AB is healthy and ready to join another team. Despicable. Money sure does bring out the worst in people.
These reporters are a bunch of idiots...  
EricJ : 9/20/2019 8:19 pm : link
There is not a single guy there who can pivot and ask a real football question that is NOT about AB.

They deserve to have the thing cut short.
Why is everyone on ths thread assuming he has a mental illness  
PatersonPlank : 9/20/2019 11:16 pm : link
Where is the proof of that? I think he is just an ass.
RE: Why is everyone on ths thread assuming he has a mental illness  
81_Great_Dane : 9/20/2019 11:29 pm : link
In comment 14590268 PatersonPlank said:
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Where is the proof of that? I think he is just an ass.
I said he has issues. That may or may not reach the level of mental illness. But what he's doing is not normal. He could be sick, or he could be an ass. He could also be sick AND an ass.
AB did not actually blow his opportunity with the Pats  
Reale01 : 9/20/2019 11:35 pm : link
He may have been on his best behavior with them.

This all happened BEFORE he signed with them. The Pats either did not know OR did not know it would come out so soon.

Either way, the die was cast months ago for AB. The Pats had no choice when the news broke.
RE: AB did not actually blow his opportunity with the Pats  
mfsd : 9/20/2019 11:43 pm : link
In comment 14590276 Reale01 said:
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He may have been on his best behavior with them.

This all happened BEFORE he signed with them. The Pats either did not know OR did not know it would come out so soon.

Either way, the die was cast months ago for AB. The Pats had no choice when the news broke.


He sent the threatening texts to the 2nd accuser on Wednesday, as in 2 nights ago.

Now, Pats may have been forced to act anyway when the news of the second accuser broke, but heís 100% guilty of continuing to act like an asshole after signing with the Pats
RE: RE: AB did not actually blow his opportunity with the Pats  
Reale01 : 9/20/2019 11:58 pm : link
In comment 14590277 mfsd said:
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In comment 14590276 Reale01 said:


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He may have been on his best behavior with them.

This all happened BEFORE he signed with them. The Pats either did not know OR did not know it would come out so soon.

Either way, the die was cast months ago for AB. The Pats had no choice when the news broke.



He sent the threatening texts to the 2nd accuser on Wednesday, as in 2 nights ago.

Now, Pats may have been forced to act anyway when the news of the second accuser broke, but heís 100% guilty of continuing to act like an asshole after signing with the Pats


You are right. That was a stupid move on his part. I had forgotten about it. I would still say the die was cast before he got there, but he certainly accelerated the process.
Yeah agreed...I think a lot of people had a feeling  
mfsd : 9/21/2019 12:00 am : link
more would come out eventually. But the texts he sent this week were way over the line. He included pictures of the womanís kids
Shows you we really don't know anything about these guys  
dpinzow : 9/21/2019 7:39 am : link
How many times have we heard in the media and on this message board that Odell is off his rocker and if he acted like Antonio Brown, he'd be better off. I could pull up all kinds of instances of this when Odell played for us.

Not saying that Odell is a perfect role model, but Brown's nonsense is far worse than anything we've heard substantiated about Odell
Bring him in  
Rflairr : 9/21/2019 8:14 am : link
This guy could be huge for Danny Jones
RE: Cleveland! lol  
upnyg : 9/21/2019 9:35 am : link
In comment 14589964 Bold Ruler said:
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That's what I was thinking. OBJ and AB sharing receptions.
RE: .  
upnyg : 9/21/2019 9:36 am : link
In comment 14590014 Brown Recluse said:
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Patriots once again doing the right thing right when a controversy shows its self, while the Giants tried to keep secrets over a freakin kicker



The allegations were out before he signed with the Pats, just now circulated.
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