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NFT: How to handle a certain interview question - advice needed

Tom from LI : 9/21/2019 8:23 am
So back in June I relocated to North Carolina and in July I vented about my frustration associated with the job search here with my BBI family. funny thing was a couple of days after the flood gates opened and I was fortunate to get many interviews and multiple offers.

So I chose to go to work for a growing software company as an operations manager. I was offered the job mid August and started the day after labor day. The job was described in the posting as one thing and now that I am on board its not exactly as advertised. Not that big a deal.

So I applied to Google Fiber on Tuesday and they reached out to me on Thursday for an interview this Monday. The job posting is exactly what I did for Verizon.

My question is how do I handle the question about why do I want to leave the position I just started?

Thanks in advance!
The truth shall set you free.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/21/2019 8:28 am : link
Seriously I don't believe there is a problem saying they misled you on the day to day responsibilities of the job and you are looking for something similar to what you were doing at Verizon.
Its not that you want to leave your current position  
George from PA : 9/21/2019 8:30 am : link
Its that this new role is perfect for me.....
What George said  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/21/2019 8:31 am : link
Tell them why this new opportunity at this company is best for you.
RE: The truth shall set you free.  
rnargi : 9/21/2019 8:38 am : link
In comment 14590349 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Seriously I don't believe there is a problem saying they misled you on the day to day responsibilities of the job and you are looking for something similar to what you were doing at Verizon.


I wouldn't hesitate to say exactly this, but I'd say it diplomatically.
RE: RE: The truth shall set you free.  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/21/2019 8:52 am : link
In comment 14590355 rnargi said:
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In comment 14590349 Zeke's Alibi said:


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Seriously I don't believe there is a problem saying they misled you on the day to day responsibilities of the job and you are looking for something similar to what you were doing at Verizon.



I wouldn't hesitate to say exactly this, but I'd say it diplomatically.


Yeah its not like its the first time a smaller company misled people on job description to get someone in the door.


And I think you have to acknowledge it, some other posters said just concentrate that you really want this job. Well what if their is a job in 3 months that's the job you really, really want. I think you need to address the elephant in the room.
Tell them you moved ...  
short lease : 9/21/2019 9:10 am : link
(insert reason here) ... and then tell them you loved your last job but life's circumstances brought you to where you are right now.

Then finish with this offer - "either your signature or your brains will be on the the signing offer letter but, this will be resolved today."

I tried ending an interview with that closing line once but, they called security and had me thrown out ... I guess I didn't sell it well enough and they called my bluff?


seriously ... Good Luck Tom.
I would also acknowledge it  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/21/2019 9:18 am : link
something along the lines of

"I'm aware of how this looks to leave my current job after such a brief period of time. But I am not a jumper. I am an expert in software operations who relocated to Charlotte and only accepted my current position only because of a now-clear misunderstanding as to the role and functions.

And so I am willing to assume the professional risk because this long-term opportunity with Google is the ideal role for me. It matches my expertise. It is the work I want to do, the work I did back in NY, and the work I thought I was signing up for with my current employer."
Thanks for all the input so far.. its great  
Tom from LI : 9/21/2019 9:23 am : link
I do agree that I have to address it. I am trying to find like someone said a more diplomatic response.

Maybe something like this.. might be a little wordy..

"While I appreciate the opportunity with xyzsoftware. After working there for 3 weeks the job that I accepted and the job that I am performing are not even remotely the same. With that said I appreciate and embrace change in my role at any company. Change was the very essence and necessity of my holding positions at Verizon for 31 years. The FTTH field is moving very fast and that is what I enjoyed the most about it. I always thought that the job you accept should at least be the job you perform."

RE: I would also acknowledge it  
Tom from LI : 9/21/2019 9:25 am : link
In comment 14590380 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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something along the lines of

"I'm aware of how this looks to leave my current job after such a brief period of time. But I am not a jumper. I am an expert in software operations who relocated to Charlotte and only accepted my current position only because of a now-clear misunderstanding as to the role and functions.

And so I am willing to assume the professional risk because this long-term opportunity with Google is the ideal role for me. It matches my expertise. It is the work I want to do, the work I did back in NY, and the work I thought I was signing up for with my current employer."


I like yours better than mine... lol

Thanks!
Never bad mouth a previous or current employer  
DC Gmen Fan : 9/21/2019 9:26 am : link
frame the new opportunity as just that - a nw opportunity that fits your goals
RE: Tell them you moved ...  
Tom from LI : 9/21/2019 9:28 am : link
In comment 14590372 short lease said:
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(insert reason here) ... and then tell them you loved your last job but life's circumstances brought you to where you are right now.

Then finish with this offer - "either your signature or your brains will be on the the signing offer letter but, this will be resolved today."

I tried ending an interview with that closing line once but, they called security and had me thrown out ... I guess I didn't sell it well enough and they called my bluff?


seriously ... Good Luck Tom.


LOL.. I would be stupid enough to do that!

I am like Michael Scott when Pam tells him he has a call and she lets him do the practice run of answering before she puts the call through.. lol
I wouldnt even  
pjcas18 : 9/21/2019 9:29 am : link
say this (in quotes below). You sound like a complainer and as a hiring manager I think it would reflect poorly on you, even if the company misled you. I wouldn't hire you if you answered it this way in an interview with me. and why are you looking to leave is a bullshit question - one where no one cares about the answer or more it can't help you, but it can hurt you if you answer like you are suggesting.

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....the job that I accepted and the job that I am performing are not even remotely the same....


Just focus on the positive, you have admired Google for a long time, you love the innovation and the fact they are one of the most important companies on the planet - or some happy horseshit like this.

I'd say absolutely NOTHING negative about your current employer.
RE: Never bad mouth a previous or current employer  
Tom from LI : 9/21/2019 9:29 am : link
In comment 14590387 DC Gmen Fan said:
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frame the new opportunity as just that - a nw opportunity that fits your goals


Great advice! Thanks!
no problem. It's tricky to thread this needle  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/21/2019 9:34 am : link
because you need to do a few things

1. Indicate that you understand the gravity of leaving a new job after only 3 weeks
(hence why I suggest acknowledging your willingness to take that risk)

2. Indicate that you aren't going to bolt from the prospective employer in a short period of time if a better opportunity comes up (stressing the long-term aspects of Google and throwing in your 31 years at Verizon-- you are not a "jumper")

3. Not bad-mouth your current employer
(try to find a tactful way to focus it being a "misunderstanding" of the role and funtions. And if you highlight your expertise in your field while bringing up that there was a misunderstanding of the job roles, then the subtext is that it puts the culpability on the current job without you having to explicitly blame them)
RE: Its not that you want to leave your current position  
markky : 9/21/2019 9:37 am : link
In comment 14590352 George from PA said:
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Its that this new role is perfect for me.....


This. Always this.

If they press you on "why so soon" you can tell the truth but mix it with some positive things:

- I like the company. The people are great.
- I like the work. I LOVE working in this field.
- The work content is not as challenging as I expected. Work is very important to me. I'm happy to do any kind of work but I'm happiest when the work is difficult.

Good luck.
RE: RE: Its not that you want to leave your current position  
Tom from LI : 9/21/2019 9:40 am : link
In comment 14590403 markky said:
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In comment 14590352 George from PA said:


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Its that this new role is perfect for me.....



This. Always this.

If they press you on "why so soon" you can tell the truth but mix it with some positive things:

- I like the company. The people are great.
- I like the work. I LOVE working in this field.
- The work content is not as challenging as I expected. Work is very important to me. I'm happy to do any kind of work but I'm happiest when the work is difficult.

Good luck.


Thanks great advice!
Yes, always stay positive in an interview.  
eclipz928 : 9/21/2019 10:23 am : link
Even if your previous employer was awful.

"My current employer offered me a great opportunity, and I've gained a lot of valuable experience in my short time there, but I feel that Google Fiber much better aligns with my ultimate career goals and what I would like to do as I progress forward".
I agree better to remain positive  
steve in ky : 9/21/2019 10:35 am : link
I didnít think I would leave, and probably wouldnít for any other position, but this opportunity is a perfect fit for me. This is exactly what I want to be doing.
All great advice here  
Tom from LI : 9/21/2019 10:38 am : link
Thank you!

I agree with the not bad mouthing the current or any previous employer.

I know this will come up and the advice given here is going to be extremely helpful!

Would it be prudent to mention I never had intentions to leave this company but I received an email alert from linkedin for an opportunity with Google Fiber, a company and product that I hold in high regard, I felt like to try land this opportunity.
Lots of good advice from PaulBlakeTSU...didn't realize you had  
Zeke's Alibi : 9/21/2019 10:45 am : link
31 years at Verizon, you definitely won't be seen as a jumper and they'll be able to put two and two together as to why you are leaving your last job so fast.
More money  
Jimmy Googs : 9/21/2019 11:22 am : link
keep it simple
Just tell them that your firm misrepresented the job  
Section331 : 9/21/2019 11:36 am : link
to you, and give concrete examples. Ask them to verify that the job you are interviewing for doesnít include those job descriptions. I think they will understand. Good luck!
If I were  
sometimeswrite : 9/21/2019 11:36 am : link
the person doing the interview, any position at that level, it should have been incumbent upon you to nail down the specifics of what the position entailed. It doesn't appear that you did that. Now if they told you that the position was exactly what you wanted and that was untruthful then that's your out.
RE: More money  
PatersonPlank : 9/21/2019 12:12 pm : link
In comment 14590488 Jimmy Googs said:
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keep it simple


Thats right, tell them its all about the Benjamins
First,  
jpkmets : 9/21/2019 1:01 pm : link
Blast the interviewer in the butt to assert authority.
Don't bring it up  
bluepepper : 9/21/2019 3:17 pm : link
it may be obvious that they will ask but don't pre-emptively address it. The hiring manager may need somebody badly (the job market is good!) and not want to bring up negatives anymore than you do.

I appreciate my current employer and position...  
Torrag : 9/21/2019 3:25 pm : link
but an opportunity with a flagship company with a culture like Google doesn't come along often and is too good an opportunity to pass up...
Tom  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/21/2019 5:24 pm : link
You did nothing wrong. Your a talented technologist with management experience and your time at Verizon shows you were a very valued employee. 31 years! I would highly doubt this company or any would see a negative.

Turn it into a positive. You made a big change in your life and recognized the opportunity was not maximizing your ability to have the type of impact you want to have for a company.

Rather than continue in the role you are exploring opportunities and this time you are going to better ensure the responsibilities are accurately represented. Maybe you can add in you rally had no experience in changing jobs but are now better prepared.

Hopefully you discussed this with your current employer as sometimes things can work out. If not, you want to still interview from a position of strength. Why not try to get a salary bump as well? Your not out of work. Worse case you stay where you are and it is up to them to entice you imo.
You don't have to badmouth anyone.  
manh george : 9/22/2019 7:53 am : link
Explain that the job responsibilities as you were led to believe they would be turned out to be a missed communication. Don't place blame.Just explain that you have a set of skills that you were disappointed to discover are not consistent with what you are doing at your current job, but seem to line up perfectly with the new offer.
I don't want to work  
Sneakers O'toole : 9/22/2019 12:03 pm : link
for no wack ass bitches.
Always be positive  
trueblueinpw : 9/22/2019 1:02 pm : link
ďIím excited for the opportunity I have before me, but working for Google Fiber has been a dream ever since you guys got into the game. Iím a huge fan of how youíve innovative in the space (give some examples here). I canít wait to make an impact with such a great team. Can you tell me more about (insert good questions here)?Ē

What ever you do, donít try to explain why youíre looking after three weeks at a no. In politics, if youíre explaining, youíre losing. Donít explain why youíre looking after just three weeks. Just be positive, highlight your accomplishments and enthusiasm and ask a lot of questions.
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