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Re-watch the 2011 season highlights re: Eli Manning

Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2019 9:56 am
Not the short video that NFL Films put out by the longer, game-by-game DVD if you have it.

Eli should have been league MVP that year. Eight 4th-quarter comebacks... no running game or defense during the regular season. He - along with Cruz, Nicks, Manningham, and Ballard - carried that team to the division title.

It was the pinnacle of Eli's career.
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Eric TY  
Thegratefulhead : 9/21/2019 5:33 pm : link
The 2011 season has been my biggest argument over The last 5 years about how much Eli had declined. To me it's just so obvious to the eye. We are finally past that. After the 2011 season I would not have traded Eli for any player in the NFL.
Eli put that team on his back  
Sneakers O'toole : 9/21/2019 5:34 pm : link
And carried them kicking and screaming into the playoffs.
At  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2019 5:54 pm : link
one point in the Atlanta playoff game, Brandon Jacobs turned to Eli and said, "You're a beast."
Re watch the 2011 highlights of re: Rodgers  
xman : 9/21/2019 6:01 pm : link
once I do that then I will weight in on the MVP
RE: In my opinion  
Jesse B : 9/21/2019 6:02 pm : link
In comment 14590579 crick n NC said:
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It would be unrealistic expectations to expect seasons like 2011 from Manning. To me if that was your expectations then I would say perhaps you don't fully understand just how great that season was from a qb standpoint.


Tom Brady, peyton manning, Aaron Rodgers have had many seasons playing at a similar level consistently.
RE: Nine-Tails  
Junior22 : 9/21/2019 6:33 pm : link
In comment 14590733 Eric from BBI said:
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Eli kicked Rodgers ass in the playoff game. I know the MVP is determined before then, but Eli showed up in the playoffs and Rodgers didn't. Case closed.


So we are back to giving eli the praise for 1 game but last 7 years it was not him but the front office?
RE: Nine-Tails  
Nine-Tails : 9/21/2019 6:49 pm : link
In comment 14590733 Eric from BBI said:
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Eli kicked Rodgers ass in the playoff game. I know the MVP is determined before then, but Eli showed up in the playoffs and Rodgers didn't. Case closed.


I donít dispute that. But, Aaron Rodgers was the undisputed mvp during the regular season. One of the best regular season qb performances ever. Anyways, Eli won the award that matter
That  
AcidTest : 9/21/2019 6:55 pm : link
was the best year of Eli's career. He should have been the MVP if the entire season was considered. He carried the whole team.
RE: That  
Junior22 : 9/21/2019 6:57 pm : link
In comment 14590814 AcidTest said:
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was the best year of Eli's career. He should have been the MVP if the entire season was considered. He carried the whole team.


Even if it was about the complete season eli was not close to Rodgers and breese that year
RE: Giants played Green Bay about a month or so earlier  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/21/2019 6:57 pm : link
In comment 14590741 Jimmy Googs said:
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and took them right down to the wire, scoring a lot of points on them albeit losing. I am sure that gave Giants a whole lot of confidence to play them again. Similar to Pats matchup in 2007.

Green By offense also came out flat in those 2011 playoffs...maybe from the week off


Green Bay also scored two touchdowns on a terrible non fumble call and an egregious roughing the passer (when Rodgers was out of the pocket) on Umenyiora.
RE: Nine-Tails  
Nine-Tails : 9/21/2019 6:59 pm : link
In comment 14590733 Eric from BBI said:
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Eli kicked Rodgers ass in the playoff game. I know the MVP is determined before then, but Eli showed up in the playoffs and Rodgers didn't. Case closed.


A similar example could be for Peytonís year in 2014, he had a horrible Super Bowl, but that doesnít mean he shouldnít have won the MVP for his record setting year.
RE: RE: That  
Lines of Scrimmage : 9/21/2019 7:06 pm : link
In comment 14590815 Junior22 said:
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In comment 14590814 AcidTest said:


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was the best year of Eli's career. He should have been the MVP if the entire season was considered. He carried the whole team.



Even if it was about the complete season eli was not close to Rodgers and breese that year


Come on Junior, you never even had the makings of a varsity player.
Eli has two magical play off runs  
joeinpa : 9/21/2019 7:11 pm : link
He was an inconsistent regular season quarterback, but still managed to put up Hall of Fame numbers. He was great in the clutch up during more than a few seasons, but also a quarterback who turned the ball over way too much.

He has two Championships but is a 500 regular season quarterback. He was great in the play offs, but only won a play off game in 2 of 15 plus seasons as Giants quarterback.

Why canít his supporters and his critics just accept him for what he was.

By the way the criticism of Jones as a fumbler kind of makes me laugh when you consider how often Eli fumbled.
RE: Eli has two magical play off runs  
Nine-Tails : 9/21/2019 7:13 pm : link
In comment 14590833 joeinpa said:
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He was an inconsistent regular season quarterback, but still managed to put up Hall of Fame numbers. He was great in the clutch up during more than a few seasons, but also a quarterback who turned the ball over way too much.

He has two Championships but is a 500 regular season quarterback. He was great in the play offs, but only won a play off game in 2 of 15 plus seasons as Giants quarterback.

Why canít his supporters and his critics just accept him for what he was.

By the way the criticism of Jones as a fumbler kind of makes me laugh when you consider how often Eli fumbled.


Your posts are great. Always able to give good insight in matters. I salute you sir
RE: At  
twostepgiants : 9/21/2019 7:15 pm : link
In comment 14590758 Eric from BBI said:
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one point in the Atlanta playoff game, Brandon Jacobs turned to Eli and said, "You're a beast."


And this is the best reason why Rodgers was NFL MVP

The Giants beat Atlanta 27-2 largely on Eli dominating a full game. He had 277 yds and 3 TD and a 129 qb rating

No 4th quarter comeback reqired

Put those numbers over 16 games and you get 4432 yds and 46 TD or basically Rodgers season
RE: RE: Giants played Green Bay about a month or so earlier  
Johnny5 : 9/21/2019 8:51 pm : link
In comment 14590817 McNally's_Nuts said:
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In comment 14590741 Jimmy Googs said:


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and took them right down to the wire, scoring a lot of points on them albeit losing. I am sure that gave Giants a whole lot of confidence to play them again. Similar to Pats matchup in 2007.

Green By offense also came out flat in those 2011 playoffs...maybe from the week off




Green Bay also scored two touchdowns on a terrible non fumble call and an egregious roughing the passer (when Rodgers was out of the pocket) on Umenyiora.

Yep. Refs gifted that first game to GB over the Giants. And they were trying their damnedest to influence the playoff game to GB... lol
Unfortunately  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2019 9:39 pm : link
a lot of masochistic Giants fans suffer from the same bug that caused those of similar ilk to demonize Phil Simms.

twostepgiants  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2019 9:41 pm : link
and yet when it really mattered, Rodgers was late on his throws and fumbled the ball away to the New York Giants.

Game. Set. Match.

Take your Eli hate someplace else.
RE: RE: Nine-Tails  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2019 9:42 pm : link
In comment 14590801 Junior22 said:
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In comment 14590733 Eric from BBI said:


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Eli kicked Rodgers ass in the playoff game. I know the MVP is determined before then, but Eli showed up in the playoffs and Rodgers didn't. Case closed.



So we are back to giving eli the praise for 1 game but last 7 years it was not him but the front office?


No. Sounds like you want to promote a different agenda.

My point is clear. Eli's MVP season carried the NYGs to a Super Bowl.
Well, officially Eli had  
bw in dc : 9/21/2019 9:52 pm : link
five fourth QTR CBs (Sort "4QC").

Don't know where 8 is coming from...
League Leaders - ( New Window )
Eli was tied for 2nd...  
bw in dc : 9/21/2019 9:54 pm : link
that year in pick 6s.

I didn't realize it was that many. I recall maybe one...?
RE: Well, officially Eli had  
Johnny5 : 9/21/2019 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14590933 bw in dc said:
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five fourth QTR CBs (Sort "4QC").

Don't know where 8 is coming from... League Leaders - ( New Window )

Damn. Only 5??
RE: RE: RE: Nine-Tails  
Junior22 : 9/21/2019 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14590929 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14590801 Junior22 said:


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In comment 14590733 Eric from BBI said:


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Eli kicked Rodgers ass in the playoff game. I know the MVP is determined before then, but Eli showed up in the playoffs and Rodgers didn't. Case closed.



So we are back to giving eli the praise for 1 game but last 7 years it was not him but the front office?



No. Sounds like you want to promote a different agenda.

My point is clear. Eli's MVP season carried the NYGs to a Super Bowl.


You know who else outplayed the league mvp and other QBs in route to a sb?

Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson

The giants defense in the 2011 playoffs was phenomenal and the fact you overlooked that to give eli some sort of pre Jones start send off is weak

Eli gets huge props for niner game but he could not move the ball much of the game and what unit allowed tynes to win the game?

You say eli outplayed Rodgers but eli not the one who had to stop an mvp who had a regular season for the ages. But it was eli that won that ring right?
RE: RE: Well, officially Eli had  
bw in dc : 9/21/2019 10:43 pm : link
In comment 14590942 Johnny5 said:
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In comment 14590933 bw in dc said:


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five fourth QTR CBs (Sort "4QC").

Don't know where 8 is coming from... League Leaders - ( New Window )


Damn. Only 5??


Yes 5. Three less than 8.

RE: RE: RE: RE: Nine-Tails  
Nine-Tails : 9/21/2019 11:08 pm : link
In comment 14590944 Junior22 said:
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In comment 14590929 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 14590801 Junior22 said:


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In comment 14590733 Eric from BBI said:


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Eli kicked Rodgers ass in the playoff game. I know the MVP is determined before then, but Eli showed up in the playoffs and Rodgers didn't. Case closed.



So we are back to giving eli the praise for 1 game but last 7 years it was not him but the front office?



No. Sounds like you want to promote a different agenda.

My point is clear. Eli's MVP season carried the NYGs to a Super Bowl.



You know who else outplayed the league mvp and other QBs in route to a sb?

Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson

The giants defense in the 2011 playoffs was phenomenal and the fact you overlooked that to give eli some sort of pre Jones start send off is weak

Eli gets huge props for niner game but he could not move the ball much of the game and what unit allowed tynes to win the game?

You say eli outplayed Rodgers but eli not the one who had to stop an mvp who had a regular season for the ages. But it was eli that won that ring right?


Eric, I think you letting bias cloud your judgement regarding the regular season mvp award by mentioning playoff games. Rodgers was close to a unanimous choice for mvp, with only brees being the other option. I dont think you'd find any objective person who would say Eli deserved MVP over Rodgers. But this doesn't mean Eli didnt have an amazing year and was the top performer in the playoffs, which he was rewarded for by SB MVP.

....  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/21/2019 11:17 pm : link
You guys who want to poke holes in anything pro-Giant can enjoy your night.

God himself delivered Eli Manning to us and he rewarded us with a two-time Super Bowl MVP, who CLEARLY was the best QB of all playoff QBs in both 2007 and 2011. Moreover, when you take into account the playoffs in 2011, no one was better.

Eli was fantastic in the 2007 playoffs. But he carried the 2011 team to the playoffs and once there, carried them a step further.

My MVP wins playoff games and world championships. He throws to Kevin Boss, David Tyree (TD and "the catch"), and Plaxico for the win in 2007. He throws perhaps the greatest pin-point pass in Super Bowl history in 2011.

Bitch and moan all you want. I'm going to sleep well tonight. And thank God for Eli Manning.

Good night.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Nine-Tails  
Johnny5 : 9/21/2019 11:22 pm : link
In comment 14590956 Nine-Tails said:
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Eric, I think you letting bias cloud your judgement regarding the regular season mvp award by mentioning playoff games. Rodgers was close to a unanimous choice for mvp, with only brees being the other option. I dont think you'd find any objective person who would say Eli deserved MVP over Rodgers. But this doesn't mean Eli didnt have an amazing year and was the top performer in the playoffs, which he was rewarded for by SB MVP.

Yep he was unanimous maybe until he shit the bed in the playoffs. Not quite sure what your agenda is against Eli since you are arguing the same crap with me in the Eli/Favre thread. Let it go my man.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Nine-Tails  
Johnny5 : 9/21/2019 11:23 pm : link
In comment 14590944 Junior22 said:
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In comment 14590929 Eric from BBI said:


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In comment 14590801 Junior22 said:


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In comment 14590733 Eric from BBI said:


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Eli kicked Rodgers ass in the playoff game. I know the MVP is determined before then, but Eli showed up in the playoffs and Rodgers didn't. Case closed.



So we are back to giving eli the praise for 1 game but last 7 years it was not him but the front office?



No. Sounds like you want to promote a different agenda.

My point is clear. Eli's MVP season carried the NYGs to a Super Bowl.



You know who else outplayed the league mvp and other QBs in route to a sb?

Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson

The giants defense in the 2011 playoffs was phenomenal and the fact you overlooked that to give eli some sort of pre Jones start send off is weak

Eli gets huge props for niner game but he could not move the ball much of the game and what unit allowed tynes to win the game?

You say eli outplayed Rodgers but eli not the one who had to stop an mvp who had a regular season for the ages. But it was eli that won that ring right?

LOL give it a rest junior.
Eli was ridiculous in 2011  
AcesUp : 9/21/2019 11:28 pm : link
That year and that run is mostly Eli. You can argue that the Giants win the 2007 SB with a few different QBs (that roster was underrated and loaded) but that 2nd run is Eli's case for the HOF. He carries that team to a playoff berth and then elevates his play as the D figures it out. I don't think any other QB would get it done for the Giants in that run, Eli was the perfect QB at that time.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Nine-Tails  
Nine-Tails : 9/22/2019 12:11 am : link
In comment 14590962 Johnny5 said:
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In comment 14590956 Nine-Tails said:


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Eric, I think you letting bias cloud your judgement regarding the regular season mvp award by mentioning playoff games. Rodgers was close to a unanimous choice for mvp, with only brees being the other option. I dont think you'd find any objective person who would say Eli deserved MVP over Rodgers. But this doesn't mean Eli didnt have an amazing year and was the top performer in the playoffs, which he was rewarded for by SB MVP.



Yep he was unanimous maybe until he shit the bed in the playoffs. Not quite sure what your agenda is against Eli since you are arguing the same crap with me in the Eli/Favre thread. Let it go my man.


I don't think I even posted on that thread, but whatever. And what does my post have to do against Eli. I said he was the best qb in the playoffs outdueling Brady and Rodgers. But Rodgers was the rightful mvp because you know it's a regular season award and playoff performance doesn't factor in. Both can be true and in fact are
RE: ....  
Junior22 : 9/22/2019 2:04 am : link
In comment 14590960 Eric from BBI said:
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You guys who want to poke holes in anything pro-Giant can enjoy your night.

God himself delivered Eli Manning to us and he rewarded us with a two-time Super Bowl MVP, who CLEARLY was the best QB of all playoff QBs in both 2007 and 2011. Moreover, when you take into account the playoffs in 2011, no one was better.

Eli was fantastic in the 2007 playoffs. But he carried the 2011 team to the playoffs and once there, carried them a step further.

My MVP wins playoff games and world championships. He throws to Kevin Boss, David Tyree (TD and "the catch"), and Plaxico for the win in 2007. He throws perhaps the greatest pin-point pass in Super Bowl history in 2011.

Bitch and moan all you want. I'm going to sleep well tonight. And thank God for Eli Manning.

Good night.


Yup thank God for eli winning us those 2 rings and screw the rest of the team for ruining the last 8 years of this amazing qb
This schmuck has been here a couple...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/22/2019 6:23 am : link
of months, posts only on the topic of eli negatively and talks about long-time posters as if he's been here awhile.

The latest in a line of dupes created for one purpose.

Arguing with a troll is fruitless, especially one who casually tosses aside two SB wins and two super bowl MVP's.

The Eli Manning Era is over yet some of these ridiculous posters still come to take a shit.
God delivered Eli Manning to us?  
Jimmy Googs : 9/22/2019 7:31 am : link
So now Ernie Accorsi is to be referred to as God...
RE: This schmuck has been here a couple...  
Jimmy Googs : 9/22/2019 7:34 am : link
In comment 14591033 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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The Eli Manning Era is over yet some of these ridiculous posters still come to take a shit.


Well the thread is about Eli Manning's 2011 season, and the OP denotes he should have been league MVP.

So opinions will come in...even ones you may not like.
"God himself delivered Eli Manning to us"  
Enzo : 9/22/2019 8:23 am : link
bahahahaha
RE: ....  
DeepBlueJint : 9/22/2019 8:46 am : link
In comment 14590960 Eric from BBI said:
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You guys who want to poke holes in anything pro-Giant can enjoy your night.

God himself delivered Eli Manning to us and he rewarded us with a two-time Super Bowl MVP, who CLEARLY was the best QB of all playoff QBs in both 2007 and 2011. Moreover, when you take into account the playoffs in 2011, no one was better.

Eli was fantastic in the 2007 playoffs. But he carried the 2011 team to the playoffs and once there, carried them a step further.

My MVP wins playoff games and world championships. He throws to Kevin Boss, David Tyree (TD and "the catch"), and Plaxico for the win in 2007. He throws perhaps the greatest pin-point pass in Super Bowl history in 2011.

Bitch and moan all you want. I'm going to sleep well tonight. And thank God for Eli Manning.

Good night.


AMEN!
2011 was peak  
Les in TO : 9/22/2019 8:59 am : link
Eli. He never regained that form. You can blame decisions on the offensive line (waiting too long to rebuild and choosing replacements poorly) injuries to Nicks and Cruz, switching to the WCO but he was never the same QB.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Nine-Tails  
Johnny5 : 9/22/2019 9:08 am : link
In comment 14590987 Nine-Tails said:
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In comment 14590962 Johnny5 said:


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In comment 14590956 Nine-Tails said:


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Eric, I think you letting bias cloud your judgement regarding the regular season mvp award by mentioning playoff games. Rodgers was close to a unanimous choice for mvp, with only brees being the other option. I dont think you'd find any objective person who would say Eli deserved MVP over Rodgers. But this doesn't mean Eli didnt have an amazing year and was the top performer in the playoffs, which he was rewarded for by SB MVP.



Yep he was unanimous maybe until he shit the bed in the playoffs. Not quite sure what your agenda is against Eli since you are arguing the same crap with me in the Eli/Favre thread. Let it go my man.



I don't think I even posted on that thread, but whatever. And what does my post have to do against Eli. I said he was the best qb in the playoffs outdueling Brady and Rodgers. But Rodgers was the rightful mvp because you know it's a regular season award and playoff performance doesn't factor in. Both can be true and in fact are

Yep I quoted your post accidentally. I meant to quote one of junior22's posts.
Anyone  
crick n NC : 9/22/2019 10:34 am : link
That chooses to downplay Eli Manning's 2011 season possibly has an agenda against Eli himself and or they don't know what they are looking at, also add in the possibility of trolls just trying to push people's buttons.

Really not worth the time, even though it can be difficult to not engage with such foolish takes.

Oh well.
Not sure what place God has in this.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/22/2019 10:44 am : link
You can make a point without sounding like a southern preacher. I dont think god spends a lot of time reading scouting reports. How many games did he check out at Ole Miss in 03 and 04?
RE: ....  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/22/2019 10:58 am : link
In comment 14590960 Eric from BBI said:
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You guys who want to poke holes in anything pro-Giant can enjoy your night.

God himself delivered Eli Manning to us and he rewarded us with a two-time Super Bowl MVP, who CLEARLY was the best QB of all playoff QBs in both 2007 and 2011. Moreover, when you take into account the playoffs in 2011, no one was better.

Eli was fantastic in the 2007 playoffs. But he carried the 2011 team to the playoffs and once there, carried them a step further.

My MVP wins playoff games and world championships. He throws to Kevin Boss, David Tyree (TD and "the catch"), and Plaxico for the win in 2007. He throws perhaps the greatest pin-point pass in Super Bowl history in 2011.

Bitch and moan all you want. I'm going to sleep well tonight. And thank God for Eli Manning.

Good night.


Might wanna lay off the church wine.
Did it occur  
crick n NC : 9/22/2019 11:27 am : link
That Eric was using an expression, "thank God"?

Even if he does really thank God, oh well?
RE: Did it occur  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/22/2019 11:29 am : link
In comment 14591289 crick n NC said:
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That Eric was using an expression, "thank God"?

Even if he does really thank God, oh well?


Well, God did hand deliver us Eli. Whatever that means. lol.
RE: Did it occur  
Jimmy Googs : 9/22/2019 11:46 am : link
In comment 14591289 crick n NC said:
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That Eric was using an expression, "thank God"?

Even if he does really thank God, oh well?


No, it didn't occur because he wasn't.

No big deal, as it only came out because he was hotly debating another poster who he felt was downplaying Eli's great 2011 year.

Geez  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/22/2019 11:58 am : link
sounds like we have a lot of religious bigots.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 9/22/2019 12:00 pm : link
I would not go as far as to say Eli should win MVP that year - but he was top three. Just an incredible season all around. That season - start to finish - is why he should be in the HOF.
RE: Geez  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/22/2019 3:13 pm : link
In comment 14591327 Eric from BBI said:
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sounds like we have a lot of religious bigots.


It actually sounds like we have a lot of morons that manifests itself in a lot of strange ways.

Careful  
Jimmy Googs : 9/22/2019 3:18 pm : link
God is keeping close tabs it seems on the Giants and maybe also its fans...
I'm thinking right now of HopeJ and Bob in Annapolis....  
Britt in VA : 9/22/2019 3:33 pm : link
who didn't get to see that 2011 win right now. Bob didn't see the 2007 win either. He died right before.

Wish they could have seen it. Wish they could see this new start today.
Schnitzie too.  
Britt in VA : 9/22/2019 4:00 pm : link
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