Not the short video that NFL Films put out by the longer, game-by-game DVD if you have it.
Eli should have been league MVP that year. Eight 4th-quarter comebacks... no running game or defense during the regular season. He - along with Cruz, Nicks, Manningham, and Ballard - carried that team to the division title.
It was the pinnacle of Eli's career.
I began to doubt myself. *grin*
I think he was definitely in strong consideration that year and the playoff performance certainly in the top three in history.
The thing that always bothered me was that performance was not a anomaly. The next two years he lost both of those WR's (Nicks to me was the much bigger loss in 2012) and the line went from passable in the playoffs to very poor. That issue was never fixed.
Eli should have had at least had 3-4 more very good years of high performance and most likely are far more positive outlook of his career. Very unfortunate.
Eli carried the #27 defense and the #32 ranked running game.
People forget how horrific our defense was until the Jets game. Same with the running game.
The defense blew lead after lead and Eli had to save their necks. That was the year Justin Tuck moped until he had a heart-to-heart with Coughlin.
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that that was a 4 win team without Manning's play.
People forget how horrific our defense was until the Jets game. Same with the running game.
The defense blew lead after lead and Eli had to save their necks. That was the year Justin Tuck moped until he had a heart-to-heart with Coughlin.
Yes it was. However, they may have had the best WR trio in the league and both Nicks and Cruz were at a elite level which helped overcome those deficiencies. When the running game and defense came around they became a very good team.
One of his go-to guys was Ballard.
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One of his go-to guys was Ballard.
I believe you. He was magnificent that year and that was a really special team.
Eli is going to the Hall.
Multiple SB MVPs on a list with Montana, Starr, Brady and Bradshaw.
All the major stats are top 10 for career.
Iron Man streak.
Walter Payton man of the Year.
His 2 Super Bowl changing plays.
He’s going.
Bingo. I think people were expecting Eli to have a 2011 year more often than he did.
It’s a shame the Giants wasted the next 3 years of his “prime”
Unfortunately when most people emotionally react to Eli’s benching they are remembering 2011 Eli. Not 2017-2019 Eli. Everyone gets old. Nobody plays forever.
But man, Eli was great in 2011. That’s for sure.
That sad the fact is 45 TD 6 Int and 15-1 is never not going to win MVP over 29 TD 16 Int and 9-7. And the Packers running game and defense were nothing to write home about that year.
The Giants organization has much blame in the less than elegant end of his career, but so does Eli, he had to know that he was done a few years back. I simply cannot believe that such an intelligent athlete was not aware of his own declining skill set.
I will always remember him to the first half, not the second half, of his career.
Eli 2011 stats are not legendary compared to Rodgers. Eli was clutch but not at anytime did any non eli fan thought he was the best qb that year
MVP is a regular season award, and Brees and Rodgers were regular season champs that year.
When it really mattered Manning was better than both.
Almost had two more during the regular season, against the Packers and and 49ers.
He was 2-0 against Brady that year.
He was almost 2-0 against Rogers.
Yes. Rodgers had a much better team and he lost in the playoffs at home.
One of his go-to guys was Ballard.
That packers game was won for the packers by the refs. One of the most egregiously badly officiated games of all time. I believe they took a TD away from us.
Yep. Makes me sad.
That was a weird season in that they started out hot and then has 6-2 then lost 4 in a row and 5 out of 6. Amazing turn around.
When is 29 tds and 16 picks a hot year
Packers defense was almost a bad as giants that year and Rodgers had less wr talent and threw 2 picks and had about 50 tds.
What made eli great that year was the clutch performance in big spots but a flip of a play here and they don't make playoffs
2015 was his best statistic season on a 6 win team
I never once thought eli was ever close to best qb in any given season
People talk about that 2011 like it was this legendary season when stats don't back it up and you can dig into stats and see other QBs did better with less but did not win a ring
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This isn’t a new or controversial comment either. Many people outside of Giants fans agree. That year also felt like the pinnacle of Eli’s mastery in Gilbride’s offense. In hindsight, Reese and Ross should have rushed to rebuild the Oline like the Cowboys eventually did. You have a classic pocket passer that was now a 2xSBMVP. Seems bizarre how they did little to nothing to protect him.
Yep. Makes me sad.
Me too :)
It's not a "narrative". His career turnovers are what they are. 7 years in the top 5 for INTs, including leading the league in INTs 2 or 3 times.
He is 14th all time in INT and 6th all time in fumbles. It's not good.
When is 29 tds and 16 picks a hot year
Packers defense was almost a bad as giants that year and Rodgers had less wr talent and threw 2 picks and had about 50 tds.
What made eli great that year was the clutch performance in big spots but a flip of a play here and they don't make playoffs
2015 was his best statistic season on a 6 win team
I never once thought eli was ever close to best qb in any given season
People talk about that 2011 like it was this legendary season when stats don't back it up and you can dig into stats and see other QBs did better with less but did not win a ring
Idk, it was legendary though. Isn’t Eli the only QB in NFL history to throw for over 4900 yards and win the SBMVP in the same year while carrying a defense who gave up the most points in a season to actually reach a SB let alone win it? While taking the 4Q TD record from Peyton and Unitas? Other QBs that year may have had nicer stats in areas, but none can match what Eli did. Not sure how other QBs did better with less when Eli also had the 32nd ranked run game to “help” him.
Almost had two more during the regular season, against the Packers and and 49ers.
He also came close to a win against Seattle, in which a Cruz stumble led to a game-ending pick six.
The offensive line showed its age that year badly. Diehl was falling off a cliff, MacKenzie was on his last legs, Baas didn't adequately replace O'Hara, and Snee was on a downslide.
The team's solution was to draft a running back, kick Diehl to right tackle, and make Will Beatty and Kevin Boothe starters. The team has never really recovered from that blunder.
When is 29 tds and 16 picks a hot year
Packers defense was almost a bad as giants that year and Rodgers had less wr talent and threw 2 picks and had about 50 tds.
What made eli great that year was the clutch performance in big spots but a flip of a play here and they don't make playoffs
2015 was his best statistic season on a 6 win team
I never once thought eli was ever close to best qb in any given season
People talk about that 2011 like it was this legendary season when stats don't back it up and you can dig into stats and see other QBs did better with less but did not win a ring
2011 was Elis best year, and he was amazing. But no way shape or form did he deserve the mvp award of Rodgers. Rodgers was simply an unstoppable force and overall impeccable qb play
Green By offense also came out flat in those 2011 playoffs...maybe from the week off.
Tom Brady, peyton manning, Aaron Rodgers have had many seasons playing at a similar level consistently.
So we are back to giving eli the praise for 1 game but last 7 years it was not him but the front office?
I don’t dispute that. But, Aaron Rodgers was the undisputed mvp during the regular season. One of the best regular season qb performances ever. Anyways, Eli won the award that matter
Even if it was about the complete season eli was not close to Rodgers and breese that year
Green By offense also came out flat in those 2011 playoffs...maybe from the week off
Green Bay also scored two touchdowns on a terrible non fumble call and an egregious roughing the passer (when Rodgers was out of the pocket) on Umenyiora.
A similar example could be for Peyton’s year in 2014, he had a horrible Super Bowl, but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have won the MVP for his record setting year.
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was the best year of Eli's career. He should have been the MVP if the entire season was considered. He carried the whole team.
Even if it was about the complete season eli was not close to Rodgers and breese that year
Come on Junior, you never even had the makings of a varsity player.
He has two Championships but is a 500 regular season quarterback. He was great in the play offs, but only won a play off game in 2 of 15 plus seasons as Giants quarterback.
Why can’t his supporters and his critics just accept him for what he was.
By the way the criticism of Jones as a fumbler kind of makes me laugh when you consider how often Eli fumbled.
He has two Championships but is a 500 regular season quarterback. He was great in the play offs, but only won a play off game in 2 of 15 plus seasons as Giants quarterback.
Why can’t his supporters and his critics just accept him for what he was.
By the way the criticism of Jones as a fumbler kind of makes me laugh when you consider how often Eli fumbled.
Your posts are great. Always able to give good insight in matters. I salute you sir
And this is the best reason why Rodgers was NFL MVP
The Giants beat Atlanta 27-2 largely on Eli dominating a full game. He had 277 yds and 3 TD and a 129 qb rating
No 4th quarter comeback reqired
Put those numbers over 16 games and you get 4432 yds and 46 TD or basically Rodgers season
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and took them right down to the wire, scoring a lot of points on them albeit losing. I am sure that gave Giants a whole lot of confidence to play them again. Similar to Pats matchup in 2007.
Green By offense also came out flat in those 2011 playoffs...maybe from the week off
Green Bay also scored two touchdowns on a terrible non fumble call and an egregious roughing the passer (when Rodgers was out of the pocket) on Umenyiora.
Yep. Refs gifted that first game to GB over the Giants. And they were trying their damnedest to influence the playoff game to GB... lol
Game. Set. Match.
Take your Eli hate someplace else.
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Eli kicked Rodgers ass in the playoff game. I know the MVP is determined before then, but Eli showed up in the playoffs and Rodgers didn't. Case closed.
So we are back to giving eli the praise for 1 game but last 7 years it was not him but the front office?
No. Sounds like you want to promote a different agenda.
My point is clear. Eli's MVP season carried the NYGs to a Super Bowl.
Don't know where 8 is coming from...
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I didn't realize it was that many. I recall maybe one...?
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Damn. Only 5??
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Eli kicked Rodgers ass in the playoff game. I know the MVP is determined before then, but Eli showed up in the playoffs and Rodgers didn't. Case closed.
So we are back to giving eli the praise for 1 game but last 7 years it was not him but the front office?
No. Sounds like you want to promote a different agenda.
My point is clear. Eli's MVP season carried the NYGs to a Super Bowl.
You know who else outplayed the league mvp and other QBs in route to a sb?
Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson
The giants defense in the 2011 playoffs was phenomenal and the fact you overlooked that to give eli some sort of pre Jones start send off is weak
Eli gets huge props for niner game but he could not move the ball much of the game and what unit allowed tynes to win the game?
You say eli outplayed Rodgers but eli not the one who had to stop an mvp who had a regular season for the ages. But it was eli that won that ring right?
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five fourth QTR CBs (Sort "4QC").
Don't know where 8 is coming from... League Leaders - ( New Window )
Damn. Only 5??
Yes 5. Three less than 8.
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In comment 14590733 Eric from BBI said:
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Eli kicked Rodgers ass in the playoff game. I know the MVP is determined before then, but Eli showed up in the playoffs and Rodgers didn't. Case closed.
So we are back to giving eli the praise for 1 game but last 7 years it was not him but the front office?
No. Sounds like you want to promote a different agenda.
My point is clear. Eli's MVP season carried the NYGs to a Super Bowl.
You know who else outplayed the league mvp and other QBs in route to a sb?
Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson
The giants defense in the 2011 playoffs was phenomenal and the fact you overlooked that to give eli some sort of pre Jones start send off is weak
Eli gets huge props for niner game but he could not move the ball much of the game and what unit allowed tynes to win the game?
You say eli outplayed Rodgers but eli not the one who had to stop an mvp who had a regular season for the ages. But it was eli that won that ring right?
Eric, I think you letting bias cloud your judgement regarding the regular season mvp award by mentioning playoff games. Rodgers was close to a unanimous choice for mvp, with only brees being the other option. I dont think you'd find any objective person who would say Eli deserved MVP over Rodgers. But this doesn't mean Eli didnt have an amazing year and was the top performer in the playoffs, which he was rewarded for by SB MVP.
God himself delivered Eli Manning to us and he rewarded us with a two-time Super Bowl MVP, who CLEARLY was the best QB of all playoff QBs in both 2007 and 2011. Moreover, when you take into account the playoffs in 2011, no one was better.
Eli was fantastic in the 2007 playoffs. But he carried the 2011 team to the playoffs and once there, carried them a step further.
My MVP wins playoff games and world championships. He throws to Kevin Boss, David Tyree (TD and "the catch"), and Plaxico for the win in 2007. He throws perhaps the greatest pin-point pass in Super Bowl history in 2011.
Bitch and moan all you want. I'm going to sleep well tonight. And thank God for Eli Manning.
Good night.
Eric, I think you letting bias cloud your judgement regarding the regular season mvp award by mentioning playoff games. Rodgers was close to a unanimous choice for mvp, with only brees being the other option. I dont think you'd find any objective person who would say Eli deserved MVP over Rodgers. But this doesn't mean Eli didnt have an amazing year and was the top performer in the playoffs, which he was rewarded for by SB MVP.
Yep he was unanimous maybe until he shit the bed in the playoffs. Not quite sure what your agenda is against Eli since you are arguing the same crap with me in the Eli/Favre thread. Let it go my man.
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Eli kicked Rodgers ass in the playoff game. I know the MVP is determined before then, but Eli showed up in the playoffs and Rodgers didn't. Case closed.
So we are back to giving eli the praise for 1 game but last 7 years it was not him but the front office?
No. Sounds like you want to promote a different agenda.
My point is clear. Eli's MVP season carried the NYGs to a Super Bowl.
You know who else outplayed the league mvp and other QBs in route to a sb?
Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson
The giants defense in the 2011 playoffs was phenomenal and the fact you overlooked that to give eli some sort of pre Jones start send off is weak
Eli gets huge props for niner game but he could not move the ball much of the game and what unit allowed tynes to win the game?
You say eli outplayed Rodgers but eli not the one who had to stop an mvp who had a regular season for the ages. But it was eli that won that ring right?
LOL give it a rest junior.
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Eric, I think you letting bias cloud your judgement regarding the regular season mvp award by mentioning playoff games. Rodgers was close to a unanimous choice for mvp, with only brees being the other option. I dont think you'd find any objective person who would say Eli deserved MVP over Rodgers. But this doesn't mean Eli didnt have an amazing year and was the top performer in the playoffs, which he was rewarded for by SB MVP.
Yep he was unanimous maybe until he shit the bed in the playoffs. Not quite sure what your agenda is against Eli since you are arguing the same crap with me in the Eli/Favre thread. Let it go my man.
I don't think I even posted on that thread, but whatever. And what does my post have to do against Eli. I said he was the best qb in the playoffs outdueling Brady and Rodgers. But Rodgers was the rightful mvp because you know it's a regular season award and playoff performance doesn't factor in. Both can be true and in fact are
God himself delivered Eli Manning to us and he rewarded us with a two-time Super Bowl MVP, who CLEARLY was the best QB of all playoff QBs in both 2007 and 2011. Moreover, when you take into account the playoffs in 2011, no one was better.
Eli was fantastic in the 2007 playoffs. But he carried the 2011 team to the playoffs and once there, carried them a step further.
My MVP wins playoff games and world championships. He throws to Kevin Boss, David Tyree (TD and "the catch"), and Plaxico for the win in 2007. He throws perhaps the greatest pin-point pass in Super Bowl history in 2011.
Bitch and moan all you want. I'm going to sleep well tonight. And thank God for Eli Manning.
Good night.
Yup thank God for eli winning us those 2 rings and screw the rest of the team for ruining the last 8 years of this amazing qb
The latest in a line of dupes created for one purpose.
Arguing with a troll is fruitless, especially one who casually tosses aside two SB wins and two super bowl MVP's.
The Eli Manning Era is over yet some of these ridiculous posters still come to take a shit.
The Eli Manning Era is over yet some of these ridiculous posters still come to take a shit.
Well the thread is about Eli Manning's 2011 season, and the OP denotes he should have been league MVP.
So opinions will come in...even ones you may not like.
God himself delivered Eli Manning to us and he rewarded us with a two-time Super Bowl MVP, who CLEARLY was the best QB of all playoff QBs in both 2007 and 2011. Moreover, when you take into account the playoffs in 2011, no one was better.
Eli was fantastic in the 2007 playoffs. But he carried the 2011 team to the playoffs and once there, carried them a step further.
My MVP wins playoff games and world championships. He throws to Kevin Boss, David Tyree (TD and "the catch"), and Plaxico for the win in 2007. He throws perhaps the greatest pin-point pass in Super Bowl history in 2011.
Bitch and moan all you want. I'm going to sleep well tonight. And thank God for Eli Manning.
Good night.
AMEN!
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Eric, I think you letting bias cloud your judgement regarding the regular season mvp award by mentioning playoff games. Rodgers was close to a unanimous choice for mvp, with only brees being the other option. I dont think you'd find any objective person who would say Eli deserved MVP over Rodgers. But this doesn't mean Eli didnt have an amazing year and was the top performer in the playoffs, which he was rewarded for by SB MVP.
Yep he was unanimous maybe until he shit the bed in the playoffs. Not quite sure what your agenda is against Eli since you are arguing the same crap with me in the Eli/Favre thread. Let it go my man.
I don't think I even posted on that thread, but whatever. And what does my post have to do against Eli. I said he was the best qb in the playoffs outdueling Brady and Rodgers. But Rodgers was the rightful mvp because you know it's a regular season award and playoff performance doesn't factor in. Both can be true and in fact are
Yep I quoted your post accidentally. I meant to quote one of junior22's posts.
Really not worth the time, even though it can be difficult to not engage with such foolish takes.
Oh well.
God himself delivered Eli Manning to us and he rewarded us with a two-time Super Bowl MVP, who CLEARLY was the best QB of all playoff QBs in both 2007 and 2011. Moreover, when you take into account the playoffs in 2011, no one was better.
Eli was fantastic in the 2007 playoffs. But he carried the 2011 team to the playoffs and once there, carried them a step further.
My MVP wins playoff games and world championships. He throws to Kevin Boss, David Tyree (TD and "the catch"), and Plaxico for the win in 2007. He throws perhaps the greatest pin-point pass in Super Bowl history in 2011.
Bitch and moan all you want. I'm going to sleep well tonight. And thank God for Eli Manning.
Good night.
Might wanna lay off the church wine.
Even if he does really thank God, oh well?
Even if he does really thank God, oh well?
Well, God did hand deliver us Eli. Whatever that means. lol.
Even if he does really thank God, oh well?
No, it didn't occur because he wasn't.
No big deal, as it only came out because he was hotly debating another poster who he felt was downplaying Eli's great 2011 year.
It actually sounds like we have a lot of morons that manifests itself in a lot of strange ways.
Wish they could have seen it. Wish they could see this new start today.