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NFT: NHL Reg Season in less than 1 week: Predictions & Discussion

pjcas18 : 9/27/2019 8:23 am
most teams have just 1 or 2 more pre-season games then the regular season starts.

thought I'd start a discussion thread.

Found this USA today record prediction and I think it's way off. I mean, way off.

but I'll share this and then add my commentary.

can't wait for the season to start.

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RE: Isles  
pjcas18 : 11/16/2019 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14681264 KDubbs said:
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Come back from 3 goal deficit with 13 mins left to keep the point streak alive! 13-0-1 what a ride


Barzal's shootout goal was filthy.
Around the world  
KDubbs : 11/16/2019 10:17 pm : link
Barzel can score now!
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One Rangers fan  
pjcas18 : 11/17/2019 11:09 am : link
(Jay?) asked about MTL being interested in a NYR goalie.

I'm not sure the habs do anything in net.

Primeau just turned 20 in August. Shesterkin turns 24 in December.

Unless it's Hank, I think MTL rolls with Price, Kinkaid and eventual heir to Price - Cayden Primeau.

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Grant McCagg
@grantmccagg
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16m
Among goalies who have appeared in at least seven AHL games this season, Primeau sits second in goals against average with a sterling 1.87 mark, and tied for fifth in save percentage at .934. Among rookie AHL goalies, he is first overall in both categories (7+ games played).




Islanders have a very good team (unfortunately).  
BrettNYG10 : 11/17/2019 11:40 am : link
I still don't know how the defense is SO good.

I've never bought into the Babcock hype. He's good, but Qunneville/Laviolette are better to me.
RE: Isles  
Metnut : 11/17/2019 11:40 am : link
In comment 14681264 KDubbs said:
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Come back from 3 goal deficit with 13 mins left to keep the point streak alive! 13-0-1 what a ride


Amazing game last night! Sounded like a lot of Isles fans in Philly.

I’m going to start a new Isles chat thread either today or tomorrow when I have time (or energy) to write out some detailed thoughts.
RE: RE: Isles  
Mike in NY : 11/17/2019 11:47 am : link
In comment 14681508 Metnut said:
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In comment 14681264 KDubbs said:


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Come back from 3 goal deficit with 13 mins left to keep the point streak alive! 13-0-1 what a ride



Amazing game last night! Sounded like a lot of Isles fans in Philly.

I’m going to start a new Isles chat thread either today or tomorrow when I have time (or energy) to write out some detailed thoughts.


Perhaps a certain Rangers/Penguins fan can give us a crowd breakdown
Not sure  
pjcas18 : 11/17/2019 11:50 am : link
how the NHL refs are instructed to handle injuries, but a guy taking a puck to the face seems like distress enough to me to blow the play dead.

video in the link below.



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RE: Not sure  
Mike in NY : 11/17/2019 12:19 pm : link
In comment 14681512 pjcas18 said:
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how the NHL refs are instructed to handle injuries, but a guy taking a puck to the face seems like distress enough to me to blow the play dead.

video in the link below.

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Refs were in a difficult position either way. If they blow play dead they have the wrath of Vancouver fans who were attacking with extra man. Considering it was a 2 goal game at that point I understand why they erred on the side they did.
Agree  
pjcas18 : 11/17/2019 12:56 pm : link
not an easy spot for the refs, but Petersson was motioning over to the bench to come on the ice and help Calvert.

I don't think either team would have complained with a whistle, but it's definitely a judgment call and I believe the guidelines are if the player is in "distress" - just seemed like he was to me.

Hey pjcas  
5BowlsSoon : 11/17/2019 5:09 pm : link
I saw the replay of the disallowed goal in the Habs Devils game last night. Do you know the rule? He didn’t kick it in.....looked like he may have kneed it in or bodied it in. I wasn’t sure the rule. My brother is still mad....I told him I have my own problems.
RE: Hey pjcas  
pjcas18 : 11/17/2019 5:22 pm : link
In comment 14681804 5BowlsSoon said:
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I saw the replay of the disallowed goal in the Habs Devils game last night. Do you know the rule? He didn’t kick it in.....looked like he may have kneed it in or bodied it in. I wasn’t sure the rule. My brother is still mad....I told him I have my own problems.


I don't know the rule. Danault definitely moved his hip/thigh and that's what pushed the puck over the goal line. but how that is a "distinct kicking motion" is definitely a gray area to me. The refs missed a lot on that play, especially with Hischier gloving the puck in the crease.

I have seen goals with people upright move their legs to redirect the puck as long as they don't kick it with their skate I always assumed it was ok.

but I won't pretend to know the rule.

I've never seen that called before.
Corey Schneider  
pjcas18 : 11/18/2019 11:17 am : link
to waivers.

seems like he was a top tier goalie not too long ago.
Habs  
pjcas18 : 11/18/2019 11:32 am : link
take a hit, Drouin and Byron to have surgery. Wrist and knee respectively.

Nick Suzuki - time to step up.

Jersperi Kotkaniemi - time to step up.

RE: Agree  
BrettNYG10 : 11/18/2019 12:19 pm : link
In comment 14681558 pjcas18 said:
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not an easy spot for the refs, but Petersson was motioning over to the bench to come on the ice and help Calvert.

I don't think either team would have complained with a whistle, but it's definitely a judgment call and I believe the guidelines are if the player is in "distress" - just seemed like he was to me.


That has to be blown dead. Refs make mistakes, but that was bad.
Byfield  
pjcas18 : 11/18/2019 4:17 pm : link
passing Lafreničre for many.

Anakim called it.

this year top 10 will be STRONG.

Maybe even more.

Looking forward to the WJ tourneys. U18 should be great (though US will not be favored to medal this year).
Also  
pjcas18 : 11/18/2019 4:19 pm : link
my daughters team is playing a Lake Placid tourney the day after Thanksgiving.

I've never been. The kids love hockey tournaments because they stay in a hotel, run around like maniacs and have fun (as I did when I was their age), but they have two games on the '80 Olympics Russian game ice and I can't wait.

I've heard great things, but never been.

RE: One Rangers fan  
Jay in Toronto : 11/18/2019 4:34 pm : link
In comment 14681492 pjcas18 said:
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(Jay?) asked about MTL being interested in a NYR goalie.

I'm not sure the habs do anything in net.

Primeau just turned 20 in August. Shesterkin turns 24 in December.

Unless it's Hank, I think MTL rolls with Price, Kinkaid and eventual heir to Price - Cayden Primeau.



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Grant McCagg
@grantmccagg
·
16m
Among goalies who have appeared in at least seven AHL games this season, Primeau sits second in goals against average with a sterling 1.87 mark, and tied for fifth in save percentage at .934. Among rookie AHL goalies, he is first overall in both categories (7+ games played).





Yeah it was me. I read somewhere (probably >2 days ago, too long to remember) that the Habs are looking for a back-up.

I wonder if we are moving to a 2-goalie system -- which would be interesting come playoff time.
Don't think it's been noted  
Jay in Toronto : 11/18/2019 4:39 pm : link
but Lias sent down.

Makes sense to me, since Quinn is mostly going with three lines.

Hopefully he get ice time with decent wingers and pulls a Chytl.
RE: Don't think it's been noted  
pjcas18 : 11/18/2019 4:41 pm : link
In comment 14682955 Jay in Toronto said:
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but Lias sent down.

Makes sense to me, since Quinn is mostly going with three lines.

Hopefully he get ice time with decent wingers and pulls a Chytl.


noted in the Rangers thread. I also read they might move him to wing. I'm not an expert, but I think that would be a bad move. Part of his game is IQ and defense, you are removing a lot of his value (or potential) IMO by making him a wing.
LA Kings epic troll of Arizona Coyotes  
pjcas18 : 11/19/2019 10:03 am : link
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LA Kings
@LAKings
Congrats to the @ArizonaCoyotes
on putting up their first-ever banner
👏


Crazy scene in Caps Ducks  
pjcas18 : 11/19/2019 1:08 pm : link
last night.

Caps score a goal, line brawl (practically) ensues behind Ducks goal. Garnet Hathaway is taking it to Eric Gubrandson.

Ref separates the players as the melee winds down and is holding them by the jerseys. While the ref was holding them Gubrandson sucker punched Hathaway. In retaliation Hathaway visibly spit at Gubrandson.

Hathaway is taking a lot of shit, but man, Gubrandson was at least as bad. Who sucker punches someone when the ref is holding them. I think Gubrandson is pissed because Hathaway got the better of him.

Hathaway was of course wrong for spitting at a player, but Gubrandson kind of deserved it.
Another come from behind win  
KDubbs : 11/19/2019 9:57 pm : link
For the Isles! 14-0-1...no words.
RE: Another come from behind win  
pjcas18 : 11/20/2019 12:35 pm : link
In comment 14684204 KDubbs said:
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For the Isles! 14-0-1...no words.


Amazing.
Speaking of amazing  
pjcas18 : 11/20/2019 12:38 pm : link
check out this story linked below.

It is about one of the hockey players paralyzed in the Humboldt Broncos bus crash in 2018.

He had some surgerical procedure done in Thailand that was supposed to simulate nerve impulse and in turn influence movement in his legs.

In this link he's seen taking his first steps.


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RE: RE: Another come from behind win  
JayBinQueens : 11/20/2019 12:42 pm : link
In comment 14684710 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14684204 KDubbs said:


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For the Isles! 14-0-1...no words.



Amazing.

I think it's more amazing the Isles still haven't been able to catch the Capitals with this run
RE: Speaking of amazing  
JayBinQueens : 11/20/2019 12:42 pm : link
In comment 14684715 pjcas18 said:
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check out this story linked below.

It is about one of the hockey players paralyzed in the Humboldt Broncos bus crash in 2018.

He had some surgerical procedure done in Thailand that was supposed to simulate nerve impulse and in turn influence movement in his legs.

In this link he's seen taking his first steps.
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Definitely great news. I wonder how many more people will try the same route now
Also  
pjcas18 : 11/20/2019 12:44 pm : link
seems like the Sabres transformation back into a pumpkin has begun. Hopefully MAB doesn't accuse them of tanking.

I'm pretty sure there is nothing intentional going on.

And how far as Leon Drsisaitl come? he was really underappreciated, then questions about "can he drive his own line" (resulted in a 105 point season) to he's one of the best in the game. He's got almost a 2 PPG pace going. And I'd say his 21.6 shooting % is unsustainable, but that's exactly what he shot last year when he netted 50 goals.

the duo of McDavid and Draisaitl may wind up as iconic as Crosby and Malkin.

Just need to turn individual dominance to team wins (easier said than done, though the Oilers are in fact winning right now.
RE: RE: Speaking of amazing  
pjcas18 : 11/20/2019 12:45 pm : link
In comment 14684718 JayBinQueens said:
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In comment 14684715 pjcas18 said:


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check out this story linked below.

It is about one of the hockey players paralyzed in the Humboldt Broncos bus crash in 2018.

He had some surgerical procedure done in Thailand that was supposed to simulate nerve impulse and in turn influence movement in his legs.

In this link he's seen taking his first steps.
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Definitely great news. I wonder how many more people will try the same route now


I'm unclear why he had to go to Thailand. Not sure if it was experimental or not approved by the FDA? Also, I think it was very expensive, but if it works my opinion is it should be available to anyone who has a similar diagnosis and profile.
RE: RE: RE: Speaking of amazing  
Mike in NY : 11/20/2019 2:07 pm : link
In comment 14684725 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14684718 JayBinQueens said:


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In comment 14684715 pjcas18 said:


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check out this story linked below.

It is about one of the hockey players paralyzed in the Humboldt Broncos bus crash in 2018.

He had some surgerical procedure done in Thailand that was supposed to simulate nerve impulse and in turn influence movement in his legs.

In this link he's seen taking his first steps.
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Definitely great news. I wonder how many more people will try the same route now



I'm unclear why he had to go to Thailand. Not sure if it was experimental or not approved by the FDA? Also, I think it was very expensive, but if it works my opinion is it should be available to anyone who has a similar diagnosis and profile.


Considering the family was in Canada, there might have been a cost issue in the United States even though you would think a Doctor/hospital would want this sort of good press
That Canucks  
pjcas18 : 11/22/2019 1:03 pm : link
PP is lethal. So many good Power Play units in the league with BOS, EDM, WAS, TOR when Marner is back, TBL, but VAN PP1 has the most PP goals in the league right now.

And they're a young group (all under 25, except Miller who is 26).

I wonder if they trade him now  
pjcas18 : 11/23/2019 1:04 pm : link
I still think he's got useful skills.

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Shayne Gostisbehere has been healthy scratched.
Another PPG for Vancouver  
Mike in NY : 11/23/2019 1:39 pm : link
Having Pettersson and Hughes is great for all but +/- in my keeper league
That's a great combo for a keeper league  
pjcas18 : 11/23/2019 3:45 pm : link
check out the back check by JT Miller to stop the OT breakaway for Oshie.

Oshie fumbled with the puck after stealing it, but THIS is a backcheck. Already sent it to the kids I coach. Don't lose the puck in that spot. but if you do. this is how you make up for it.


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this is so messed up  
pjcas18 : 11/24/2019 10:34 pm : link
this was something Babcock did to Mitch Marner.

At the quarter point or a little bit past it  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2019 8:47 am : link
of the season, JT Miller might be my Selke leader. Not only is he scoring on a good pace, he's playing hard minutes and thriving.

it's amazing seeing both a) what playing with better players does for someone (though this is more vs NYR than his time with TBL) and b) having a coach who recognizes your strength and allows you to play to it.

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Bailey Broadbent
@BaileyBroadcast
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J.T. Miller through 24GP:

9G - 14A - 23P

More goals and points than any Tampa Bay Lightning player.
RE: this is so messed up  
BrettNYG10 : 11/25/2019 9:38 am : link
In comment 14690407 pjcas18 said:
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this was something Babcock did to Mitch Marner.



Workplace abuse. Totally unacceptable.

Why did the media sit on this for 2-3 years?
RE: RE: this is so messed up  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2019 9:47 am : link
In comment 14690785 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 14690407 pjcas18 said:


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this was something Babcock did to Mitch Marner.





Workplace abuse. Totally unacceptable.

Why did the media sit on this for 2-3 years?


Only answer I've seen came from a TOR beat writer who said he'd heard rumors of things like this, but never got confirmation. Until now.

So, he felt irresponsible running the story or sharing it. I guess I can respect that in this free for all media era. I'd rather people didn't publish unverified anecdotes.
That makes sense then.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/25/2019 9:52 am : link
I'm sure there are other stories like that as well. That behavior isn't acceptable.

I'm glad to see Miller do well. Loved him and his style.
The one silver lining to the Rangers including Miller as basically a  
Greg from LI : 11/25/2019 9:54 am : link
throw-in in a trade that netting two guys who outright sucks right now (Howden and Hajek) is that he's not doing this for the fucking Bolts. THAT would have really hurt.
When I read Miller was thrown in I thought we got Sergachev.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/25/2019 10:12 am : link
Was totally disappointed with the trade then. Still am.
JT Miller  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2019 10:21 am : link
is probably who got me interested in following hockey prospects.

I watched him at the WJC-U18 USA gold medal team and then he shined the next year at the WJC-U20 gold. Maybe 2012 or 2013.

He was a player you watched who oozed skill, decent size, grit, IQ, one of those players you were sure about.

and then I watched him with the Rangers and saw only glimpses, but usually nothing like what I saw pre-NHL days.

So I learned players don't always make the leap even if they dominate their age group. good learning experience for me.

I like that he seems to be putting it together now.

Same here, Brett  
redbeard : 11/25/2019 11:22 am : link
As soon as I heard Miller was involved I was convinced we snagged Sergachev. What a kick in the nuts that was
If the Canadiens  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2019 11:34 am : link
still had Sergachev and McDonagh things might be a little different right now.

Instead of Drouin and (LOL) Gomez.

Granted the McDonagh trade was 10 years ago, and he never evolved into the player I hoped he would he'd still be a top pair D on the Habs.

So would Sergachev which may mean Subban was still with the habs and if not, Weber wouldn't be so relied upon to do things he's not suited for but probably subban would still be in MTL.

The Canadiens have not had a solid top 4 on the blue line in forever.

And to be fair McDonagh has under-performed expectations and Subban has 1 point in November. 1 point with 5 days left in the month. and sadly, both would be an upgrade.
Interesting  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2019 12:42 pm : link


Hockey 24|7
@iamhockey1
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45m
The Montreal #canadiens have inquired about what it would take to get Taylor Hall, the #flames
have inquired as well.
Babcock comments  
pjcas18 : 11/25/2019 2:31 pm : link
on exercise with Marner. I'm surprised anyone would think this is a good idea and not just the list, but sharing it with the team just seemed like a horrible idea to anyone with a shred of common sense.

regardless, I think it's fair to share this

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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
I reached out to Mike Babcock today about the Mitch Marner story, as reported by @koshtorontosun
. Via text, he replied, “I was trying to focus on work ethic with Mitch — focusing on role models — ended up not being a good idea. I apologized at (the) time.”
2:24 PM · Nov 25, 2019·Twitter for iPhone
....  
BrettNYG10 : 11/27/2019 12:03 am : link
Bill Peters not coaching tomorrow as the team investigates the allegation that he called Akim Aliu the n-word.
RE: Babcock comments  
BrettNYG10 : 11/27/2019 12:04 am : link
In comment 14691545 pjcas18 said:
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on exercise with Marner. I'm surprised anyone would think this is a good idea and not just the list, but sharing it with the team just seemed like a horrible idea to anyone with a shred of common sense.

regardless, I think it's fair to share this



Quote:


Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
I reached out to Mike Babcock today about the Mitch Marner story, as reported by @koshtorontosun
. Via text, he replied, “I was trying to focus on work ethic with Mitch — focusing on role models — ended up not being a good idea. I apologized at (the) time.”
2:24 PM · Nov 25, 2019·Twitter for iPhone



That just strikes me as a face-saving attempt from a nutjob boss.

Babcock sucks.
Yeah Babcock sucks  
pjcas18 : 11/27/2019 9:07 am : link
now the history coming out about Peters is alarming.

And needs to be addressed.

but what I don't like is now how people feel like "ok this scum bag Peters is likely to get fired for his abhorrent behavior so I'm going to bring up any person in history who wronged me and they should be fired too"

there are stories coming out of the woodwork about tons of other coaches, GM's, front office people, players, etc.

not condoning behavior, but sometimes going back 10 years and citing a questionable comment someone maybe in a tense situation is not what change should be about IMO.
RE: RE: Babcock comments  
JayBinQueens : 11/27/2019 9:41 am : link
In comment 14693728 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 14691545 pjcas18 said:


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on exercise with Marner. I'm surprised anyone would think this is a good idea and not just the list, but sharing it with the team just seemed like a horrible idea to anyone with a shred of common sense.

regardless, I think it's fair to share this



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Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
I reached out to Mike Babcock today about the Mitch Marner story, as reported by @koshtorontosun
. Via text, he replied, “I was trying to focus on work ethic with Mitch — focusing on role models — ended up not being a good idea. I apologized at (the) time.”
2:24 PM · Nov 25, 2019·Twitter for iPhone





That just strikes me as a face-saving attempt from a nutjob boss.

Babcock sucks.


Definitely. I don't know how legit this source is, but evidently Matt Martin got into it with Babcock over this. Makes sense he was gone soon after though


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Pasta with a hatty  
pjcas18 : 11/27/2019 12:00 pm : link
last night, Price still looking like a guy who has his mind somewhere else.

Pasta on a crazy pace, almost a goal per game, after 24.

Since leading the Rangers 4 - 0 the Canadiens have been outscored 14 - 2.

Price has given up 12 goals in just over 3 periods.

Between Price (8 years at $10.5M) and Weber (8 years at $8.5M) the Habs could be very bad for a very long time.
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