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NFT: NHL Reg Season in less than 1 week: Predictions & Discussion

pjcas18 : 9/27/2019 8:23 am
most teams have just 1 or 2 more pre-season games then the regular season starts.

thought I'd start a discussion thread.

Found this USA today record prediction and I think it's way off. I mean, way off.

but I'll share this and then add my commentary.

can't wait for the season to start.

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RE: RE: Rumors  
pjcas18 : 10/15/2019 11:03 am : link
In comment 14628996 Anakim said:
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In comment 14628915 pjcas18 said:


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Devils and Kings talking trade.

Quick?

I didn't click to see details.



Didn't see this anywhere


no idea the accuracy of the site
NJD and LAK discussing blockbuster - ( New Window )
Horrible take  
pjcas18 : 10/15/2019 1:18 pm : link
from random fan, but surprisingly this line of thinking I've seen repeated many times, I only cite the latest example that I've seen.

Fans need patience with 18 year olds. Even #1 overall picks.

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doug
@drdougboston
Last year Jack Hughes has 100 points in 50 games. This season he has 0 points in five games. The ONLY thing that has changed is that Cole Caulfield (5 points & 4 goals in two games) is no longer on his team.
3:42 PM · Oct 13, 2019·Twitter for iPhone
Hughes is a bust.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/15/2019 1:19 pm : link
Maybe they can get a fourth or fifth for him because he's related to an actually good NHLer?

Kakko, on the other hand, is a stud. On pace for a goal a game if you exclude the two games he didn't score.
Well it's good the ONLY  
pjcas18 : 10/15/2019 1:33 pm : link
thing that changed for Hughes is losing Caufield.

Not like making the jump from USNDTP to the NHL, LOL.

.  
pjcas18 : 10/16/2019 8:44 am : link
Igor Eronko
@IgorEronko
Hearing Vitali Kravtsov considers a return to the KHL. Has a European assignment clause in his contract #NYR
8:35 AM · Oct 16, 2019·TweetDeck
a couple weeks  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2019 8:54 am : link
in, some charts...

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Sean Tierney
@ChartingHockey
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47m
Good morning, friends.

All team charts are updated: https://public.tableau.com/profile/sean.tierney#!/vizhome/TeamCharts2019-20/Shotrates?publish=yes

TOR continues to push their shot rate up, edging just off the chart to the right.
WSH is hiding behind BUF and both are managing shot share very well.
ANA moving into fun is so very interesting.



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Sean Tierney
@ChartingHockey
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36m
PDO breakdown

TBL is hiding their dull pace of play behind great shooting and strong goaltending.
ARI, BOS, and CHI are getting all the saves but never scoring.
FLA is going to trend back up quickly because their shot/xG rates are good but they've had no luck.

more  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2019 9:24 am : link
Quote:
Sean Tierney
@ChartingHockey
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3m
Replying to
@ChartingHockey
Reality vs expectation

Good for real: BUF, ARI, NSH, CAR
Good with luck: STL, EDM, TBL
Bad by bad luck: PHI! FLA, MIN
Bad, the end: SJS, NYI, NJD



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Sean Tierney
@ChartingHockey
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1m
"Pace"

FunLAK.

Last ones - I think  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2019 9:30 am : link
and this guy is a great twitter follow for anyone interested in hockey data/analytics. He publishes these charts I think daily.

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Sean Tierney
@ChartingHockey
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2m
Replying to
@ChartingHockey
xG daggers

I need NYR to play more, look a little better, then let everyone else enjoy a little more colour. They're ruining the relative colour scale.




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Sean Tierney
@ChartingHockey
·
1m
Team stats heatmap

It can be fun to highlight teams within a division. For example, the Messy Metro.


Battle of the busts  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2019 10:10 am : link
tonight, 7pm.

No Hischier tonight so will see Hughes with Hall and Palmieri. Also, Hughes likely on PP1.

RE: Battle of the busts  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2019 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14631512 pjcas18 said:
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tonight, 7pm.

No Hischier tonight so will see Hughes with Hall and Palmieri. Also, Hughes likely on PP1.


Blackwood vs Georgiev in the nets.

Don't see this a lot  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2019 1:39 pm : link


Stephen Whyno
@SWhyno
Golden Knights’ Valentin Zykov suspended 20 games for PEDs.
Bruins power play  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2019 9:50 pm : link
is unreal. Pastrnak is unstoppable.

Bruins Lightning was a great game In a shootout now.
Bolts win in shootout  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2019 10:17 pm : link
but Cooper agrees with me.

Fluto Shinzawa
@FlutoShinzawa
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27s
Jon Cooper: “That’s probably the best power play in the league.”
Great  
pjcas18 : 10/18/2019 1:09 pm : link
read on analytics

I thought WOWY was awful the first time I read about it, but i get it.
Link - ( New Window )
Watch the games, nerd.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/18/2019 1:16 pm : link
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lol  
pjcas18 : 10/18/2019 1:33 pm : link
I do watch the games, it's good to see some stats though that tell me did I really see what I thought I saw.
On record  
Jay in Toronto : 10/18/2019 2:26 pm : link
don't care if we are in last place as long as the 8 or so youngsters who are critical (including not those in NYC) will continue to develop
Finally some good news for Devils fans  
Jay on the Island : 10/18/2019 4:08 pm : link
They signed Nico Hischier to a 7 year extension with an AAV of $7.25 million
Yeah good to have Nico locked up  
Oscar : 10/18/2019 4:22 pm : link
Takes him to age 28. Should be a very reasonable deal over the term.

I am wary of signing Hall but I trust Shero.
I think it's good news  
pjcas18 : 10/18/2019 4:25 pm : link
(Hischier), but there is a lot of negative comments on twitter about it being an overpay based on both production and what the RFA market this past year showed.

I will not pretend to be too knowledgeable about the cap/value players have. To me, locking up young guys (if it doesn't hurt you) makes sense as long as they contribute.

What I will say is you see a lot of people on twitter or other site say Point sign for less than Hischier (for example) and it causes people to gripe, but Point signed for 3 years and in years 4 - 7 will make 12M+ (if he plays like he's been playing), so if Hischier keeps improving years 4 - 7 will be a steal compared with a bridge deal.
I sometimes think young players get punished  
Oscar : 10/18/2019 4:33 pm : link
For breaking in early. Nico’s numbers are not as good as Point’s, for example, but he’s 20 and has been on an awful team. Point is 23 and is on the best team in the league over the last couple of years. Nico has played well so far and only figures to get better, smart to lock him up long term I think.
Agree Oscar and I was just using Point  
pjcas18 : 10/18/2019 6:00 pm : link
as an example.

RE: I sometimes think young players get punished  
Jay on the Island : 10/18/2019 7:06 pm : link
In comment 14632897 Oscar said:
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For breaking in early. Nico’s numbers are not as good as Point’s, for example, but he’s 20 and has been on an awful team. Point is 23 and is on the best team in the league over the last couple of years. Nico has played well so far and only figures to get better, smart to lock him up long term I think.

Agreed, the Devils are paying Hischier more over the first 3 years than other young players who have signed but as PJ mentioned they will get a huge increase after their bridge deals expire. They will be making over 10 million then and Hischier's deal will look great in comparison then.

If the Devils were in bad shape with the salary cap then a bridge deal would have been likely but they can afford to pay Hischier more now to save later.

As for Hall, I want to see more from him before he gets an extension. He appears rusty to me and the Devils can't afford to give him a long term deal for over 11 million. At the moment I say trade him at the deadline if they are out of the playoff hunt. Of course that could change if he begins to resemble his old self.

battle of the Hughes brothers  
pjcas18 : 10/18/2019 7:21 pm : link
tomorrow night. I thought Hughes looked really good against the Rangers.
RE: battle of the Hughes brothers  
Jay on the Island : 10/18/2019 7:48 pm : link
In comment 14632989 pjcas18 said:
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tomorrow night. I thought Hughes looked really good against the Rangers.

He's getting better. I think he was trying to do too much the first few games. You always notice when he is on the ice. I know he only has one point so far but I have no concerns that he will be a bust.
Jack Hughes with his 1st goal  
Jay on the Island : 10/19/2019 1:47 pm : link
His brother Quinn is an awesome player also. He is all over the place.
Hey pj  
5BowlsSoon : 10/19/2019 6:27 pm : link
Your boys beat the champs (Blues) again. I guess your speed is to much for those lumbering stiffs.
Isles lucky  
JayBinQueens : 10/19/2019 9:57 pm : link
To grab 2 points.

RE: Hey pj  
pjcas18 : 10/19/2019 10:36 pm : link
In comment 14633614 5BowlsSoon said:
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Your boys beat the champs (Blues) again. I guess your speed is to much for those lumbering stiffs.



Well I was glad to see the Leafs beat the B's, wish it was in regulation.

Blues, as we know, could be a slow developing team. They were in last place in January last year before winning the cup.

Price is playing well the past couple games.
We're picking top 5  
giants_10_88 : 10/20/2019 1:43 pm : link
thank god.
John Carlson  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2019 8:35 am : link
opens the season in beast mode. I hope the NHL has NHL-ers in the Olympics in 2022 in China. US has a chance to have a competitive team.

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Tom Gulitti
@TomGulittiNHL
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1m
John Carlson, who leads NHL with 21 points (5 goals, 16 assists) in 12 games, is the second defenseman in NHL history to lead the League outright in points through the first 23 days in a season – joining Boston’s Bobby Orr in 1969-70 (2-16—18 in 10 GP).
Amazing stat I just read  
Greg from LI : 10/25/2019 8:50 am : link
Marc-Andre Fleury is seventh on the all-time goalie win list.

MAF?? Seventh??? Who woulda thunk it?
If the season ended today  
Metnut : 10/25/2019 9:12 am : link
7 of the 8 east playoff teams would be back.
RE: Amazing stat I just read  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2019 9:20 am : link
In comment 14644547 Greg from LI said:
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Marc-Andre Fleury is seventh on the all-time goalie win list.

MAF?? Seventh??? Who woulda thunk it?


I think of MAF as the epitome of an accumulator. He had a couple really good seasons, and right now is playing better than at any time in his career, IMO, but for the most part benefited from being on good teams for a long time. And probably the lack of ties.

MAF has never even been top 5 in Vezina until his 2 seasons in Vegas. He's always seemed wildly inconsistent in PIT to me too.
RE: If the season ended today  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2019 9:25 am : link
In comment 14644588 Metnut said:
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7 of the 8 east playoff teams would be back.


It's October. why would the season end today?

The stanley cup winners were in the last place in the conference, 1 point out of last place in the NHL on January 6th.

RE: RE: If the season ended today  
Metnut : 10/25/2019 9:31 am : link
In comment 14644613 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 14644588 Metnut said:


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7 of the 8 east playoff teams would be back.



It's October. why would the season end today?

The stanley cup winners were in the last place in the conference, 1 point out of last place in the NHL on January 6th.


Just thought it was interesting that despite all the noise typical in early season standings 10 games or less in, that 7 of the 8 teams from last year are still in playoff position. Of course, the one exception is Buffalo for Tampa.

What the Blues did last year was crazy, but it'll be hard for other teams to do that. More likely is that at least a team or two uses last year's Blues to not be honest with themselves come January once 35-40 games or so are played.
I've always been a big MAF fan.  
BrettNYG10 : 10/25/2019 9:34 am : link
I think he's far better than most.

He's also been around forever and played for great teams. If he were Lundqvist-caliber and in the situation he was in, I think he could have beaten Brodeur's win record.
I'm a sucker again  
pjcas18 : 10/25/2019 9:45 am : link
buying in to Buffalo.

I'd trade for a goalie if I were them.

they started off well last year too before cratering.

too much talent for them to shit the bed.
RE: I'm a sucker again  
Metnut : 10/25/2019 10:26 am : link
In comment 14644647 pjcas18 said:
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buying in to Buffalo.

I'd trade for a goalie if I were them.

they started off well last year too before cratering.

too much talent for them to shit the bed.


They could sure use a goalie, but I need to see them play good hockey for 25-30 games after what happened last year.

Maybe this is the year of Buffalo though? Bills and Sabres both kicking ass so far.
That Rangers  
pjcas18 : 10/28/2019 9:56 am : link
game last night was downright embarrassing.

Yes, there is a gap between the Bruins and Rangers right now, a large one, but the effort was an indictment of the Rangers players and their coaches.

Quinn seems like a good dude, so I'm not suggesting he should be fired, but he should be throwing chairs in the locker room or something. Guys seem too comfortable.

And Ruff? How the F you run those D groups out there is asinine. He should in fact be fired. I'm not sure what purpose he serves.

Good news for the Rangers though is Shesterkin is absolutely crushing the AHL (SSS, but consistent with or better than his KHL numbers which is a good sign)
Hey pj  
5BowlsSoon : 10/28/2019 10:00 am : link
Congrats...your boys bested my boys AGAIN! That was a big win for your boys after losing two in a row. I know the natives were restless.

Not to make excuses, because your boys deserved to win, but I hope the next time we play it is not the backend of a back to back weekend with Hutchinson in the nets. Just sayin.....
Hutchinson  
pjcas18 : 10/28/2019 10:03 am : link
was bad, but man that D is going to be the Achilles heel unless they fix it.

Hard to win a game when you allow two breakaways and multiple odd man rushes.

People will blame the goalie but he'd have needed to be all-world to make those saves. And let's face it, Hutchinson is not all world.

Best thing for the Habs is Drouin starting to play smarter.
RE: Hutchinson  
5BowlsSoon : 10/28/2019 10:39 am : link
In comment 14649970 pjcas18 said:
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was bad, but man that D is going to be the Achilles heel unless they fix it.

Hard to win a game when you allow two breakaways and multiple odd man rushes.

People will blame the goalie but he'd have needed to be all-world to make those saves. And let's face it, Hutchinson is not all world.

Best thing for the Habs is Drouin starting to play smarter.


We tried to fix it with Ceci and Barrie and Muzzin at trade deadline. Barrie has been the worst of the three. Help from Marlies soon...

I wonder if moving Drouin to your third line has helped him by reducing the pressure and allowing him to go against lesser players. What do you think? By the way, your boys can roll out 4 lines. That Suzuki kid is going to be good. I’m sure you don’t miss MaxPac.
RE: RE: Hutchinson  
pjcas18 : 10/28/2019 10:55 am : link
In comment 14650070 5BowlsSoon said:
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In comment 14649970 pjcas18 said:


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was bad, but man that D is going to be the Achilles heel unless they fix it.

Hard to win a game when you allow two breakaways and multiple odd man rushes.

People will blame the goalie but he'd have needed to be all-world to make those saves. And let's face it, Hutchinson is not all world.

Best thing for the Habs is Drouin starting to play smarter.



We tried to fix it with Ceci and Barrie and Muzzin at trade deadline. Barrie has been the worst of the three. Help from Marlies soon...

I wonder if moving Drouin to your third line has helped him by reducing the pressure and allowing him to go against lesser players. What do you think? By the way, your boys can roll out 4 lines. That Suzuki kid is going to be good. I’m sure you don’t miss MaxPac.


Drouin is on the 2nd line with Domi and Armia.

I do miss Pacioretty, but Tatar, Suzuki (and Mattias Norlinder) are better fits with the state of the Canadiens. I think they might even trade Tatar because he's just redundant at this point, but still good value.

I think that's a trade that worked out for both teams.

but Max is one of the rare NHL players who can play in all situations and is above average in all facets. Hard not to like him.
Tarasenko  
pjcas18 : 10/28/2019 12:14 pm : link
out at least 5 months with shoulder surgery.

The Blues were struggling and after last year, most people were hesitant to count them out or even really criticize them, but I'm going to say it now, there will be no repeat.
*Bets entire life savings on Blues repeating now*  
BrettNYG10 : 10/28/2019 12:23 pm : link
.
RE: *Bets entire life savings on Blues repeating now*  
pjcas18 : 10/28/2019 12:30 pm : link
In comment 14650312 BrettNYG10 said:
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a sum that large is really going to put the sharps on notice.
Apparently  
pjcas18 : 10/28/2019 1:30 pm : link
Geno Malkin is involved in a massive cyrpto currency scam.

I can't tell yet if he got scammed, was a scammer or was an unknowing conspirator.

but it sounds big.
Also  
pjcas18 : 10/28/2019 1:36 pm : link
an interesting tidbit to come out of the story is that Malkin is now an American citizen.

doesn't mean much probably, but I wonder if it will have any impact on the 2022 Olympics, assuming NHL players participate.

he'll be old, but probably still one of the better players. If he stays out of prison.
Nice comments  
pjcas18 : 10/28/2019 3:47 pm : link
from Granato on Caufield (probably somewhat hyperbolic, but nice anyway).

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Jonathan Bernier

@JBernierJDM

I went to Madison to see Cole Caufield plays. @TonyGranato was on fire comparing the kid's shot to Brett Hull's, Steven Stamkos' and Alex Ovechkin's. But he was right. Caufield lauches rockets. You can read my paper (in French) here. https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/10/20/sans-cachette-ni-detour …
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