We're going to the Finals! Wondering why RJ Barrett played 39 mintues though in a preseason game.
Game Notes
RJ Barrett: Impressive debut. Not flawless though. 17 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists on 6-13 shooting. It was really a tale of two halves for him. Started off 1-6. Primarily a floor spacer in the first half for whatever reason. Had 14 points in the second half and showed that he has some NBA level moves and can drive and finish with contact. Knocked down a couple 3's. He took over in the second half.
RJ Barrett with Elfrid Payton: 3 points on 1-5 from field, 0-3 from three, 1 assist
RJ Barrett with Frank Ntilikina: 14 points on 5-8 from field, 2-3 from three, 2 assists |
Frank Ntilikina: Biggest stat. Team high +16. He makes our team just play better defensively when he defends at the point of attack. He shot 3-10 from the field. Still not gonna cut it on the offensive end. He just needs to find a way to knock down another shot or two.
Marcus Morris: Early ejection from bouncing the ball off defenders head. Kinda funny if you ask me. Team high 17 points. 6-12, 3-4 from 3, 7 rebounds, 2 assists. Played a good game. He also looks to be playing more of the 3 this year than the 4.
Julius Randle: He played an overall good game offensively. Defensively he's going to have to be hidden around Mitch or Morris. 11 points, 7 rebounds, and 7 assists. His passing is much better than I remembered.
Mitchell Robinson: Typical game from him. Scrappy on the boards, 4 blocks with a few dunks.
Kevin Knox: Appears to be stronger and in better shape this year. Had some good plays. Had some bad plays. Inconsistent game from him. Would have been an overall good game from him if you take out the 4th. His 4th quarter was bad.
Overall this should be a FUN year for the Knicks in a LONG, LONG time.
now the question is who is out of the rotation when smith and portis play friday
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The Wiz went on a huge late run against our backups, but it was a comfortable win start to finish.
If they play defense and keep the ball movement up they'll be much better than last year. Maybe not 40 win good, but 30 wins is still a 13 win improvement.
Shooting needs a lot of work across the board.
he only played 10 guys last night..
i think frank will be out of the rotation, hate to say it but i think he plays spot minutes..
trier may be out as well, it sucks but i think for right now ellingtons spacing helps the team off the bench...
barrett/ellington
morris/knox
randle/portis
mitch/gibson
Have to wonder.
Yeah.. everyone views the Nets as perennial winners. And for the past however many years the Knicks and Lakers are pretty much same record wise.
Frank is a ball mover and a defender, and people are confusing this with him being a point guard...
at the end of the game last night when waahington started pressuring the ball, he could not run the offense
I wonder if it was Durant spurning the Knicks or the Knicks getting cold feet when Durant got his last injury. In any case, I think the Knicks dodged a bullet.
lakers have friends in the media to talk them up no matter what, knicks do not...
no ome said his type of play is not important but he is not a point guard, he is a ball mover defender..
he can be what andre iquodola was for the warriors, defend the best player and hit a few 3s..
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said younger players dont view the knicks as winners like the warriors lakers and nets..
I wonder if it was Durant spurning the Knicks or the Knicks getting cold feet when Durant got his last injury. In any case, I think the Knicks dodged a bullet.
In the same interview he said he barely considered the Knicks at all. The Knicks didn't say no thanks to signing Kevin Durant...
lakers have friends in the media to talk them up no matter what, knicks do not...
That's how Brandon Ingram and Lonzo are still considered top-flight young players despite all statistical evidence to the contrary.
That said im sure he is right. And not the "cool" part, but the winning part. THese guys have the power to basically pick their team, why would they want to come to a perennial loser with a dick owner. Knicks need to start putting a descent team out there before a superstar is going to choose them.
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said younger players dont view the knicks as winners like the warriors lakers and nets..
I wonder if it was Durant spurning the Knicks or the Knicks getting cold feet when Durant got his last injury. In any case, I think the Knicks dodged a bullet.
In the same interview he said he barely considered the Knicks at all. The Knicks didn't say no thanks to signing Kevin Durant...
If he truly never considered the Knicks (which I don't believe) then it's the biggest troll job by an athlete ever. Way too much smoke for that to be even remotely true. KD's injury changed a lot.
This is his job now...promote Brooklyn which includes disparaging the Knicks. Not unexpected but also completely transparent. I read his quote:
"Fans expect players to join the Knicks because of their brand but players coming up and after me have watched the Knicks lose and they aren't cool anymore...unlike teams like the Warriors, Lakers or even Nets."
I mean, not entirely untrue. But an odd thing for a basketball player to say in the media. Lakers I get...they have shills everywhere. Warriors where a horrid franchise until about 5/6 years ago, but sure. Nets...LOL.
I personally hope KD comes back next year, 32 years old, off a devastating injury and is an absolute shell of himself. He talks a lot for a guy with such thick skin.
There is no way in hell he comes anywhere near that. He's utterly useless with the ball in his hands.
Marcus Morris is a nice to have, but takes away from the younger players.
The Knicks are stronger than more athletic, they will be an excellent rebounding team.
Unfortunately, the Nets are viewed as winners as these guys grew up remembering the Kidd/Kenyon/Jefferson finals teams. I think that is what Durant is referencing.
He has an amazing body for a 19-year-old, and he will learn to shoot the 3. He is going to be an extremely difficult 2 for opponents to defend.
...what are we talking about?
25-30 wins?
I think they win about 35 games, because I think there are a lot of bad teams.
That would double our win total. That's a big lift.
I don't expect 35 wins, for that matter. Just saying I think it's their ceiling. 25-30 is much more likely.
does 35 get you the final spot in the east?
...has got the Knick at 20 wins.
That 30th out of 30 teams.
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...has got the Knick at 20 wins.
That 30th out of 30 teams. Link - ( New Window )
I’m sure that’s right by the metrics of it. It comes down to whether and how much Knox, RJ, Mitch, etc step up and elevate their games.
Crowd in WTF mood.
Crowd in WTF mood.
wizards basically made every chuck 3 they took
Yeah I am already done watching Payton. 2 preseasons games in and I can already tell I am going to really dislike him and Bobby Portis.
it is going to take some time for the offense to come together..
even randle you ca see him hesitating when normally he is agressive...
amni saying payton is some great player? no but last night was one of those nights where everything went wrong for a team learning to play together..
Payton will never be a scorer, he is a passer and rebounder and i dont think his defense has been bad..
Iggy SG (wtf,shoots,moves w-o ball,d)
Barrett SF
Portis PF
Randle C
So overall, slightly more facilitating, more D, more height on perimeter both ways.