not true, but the Bears make the most sense given their defense. The Bills are another possibility for the reasons Sy notes. Allen takes a lot of hits. I don't see the Steelers. They are not a playoff team, and just traded their first round pick next year.
If you're not sold on the Ravens (I'm not yet), and the Steelers would have beat them last Sunday if not for a horrible roughing the passer call, the AFC North is a poor division right now. And aside from the Bengals, everyone still has a reasonable chance. So the Steelers are far from out of it...
not true, but the Bears make the most sense given their defense. The Bills are another possibility for the reasons Sy notes. Allen takes a lot of hits. I don't see the Steelers. They are not a playoff team, and just traded their first round pick next year.
If you're not sold on the Ravens (I'm not yet), and the Steelers would have beat them last Sunday if not for a horrible roughing the passer call, the AFC North is a poor division right now. And aside from the Bengals, everyone still has a reasonable chance. So the Steelers are far from out of it...
The division is poor, especially after the Browns were taken to the woodshed by the 49ers on Monday night. But I still think Baltimore wins that division.
Cant say whether what he is saying has any legs or not...who knows...but I am familiar with Sileo. He is an ex-Miami Hurricane DL from back in the day. He used to host a morning radio show when I live in FL 10-15 years ago. Absolutely could not stand that guy. Havent missed him for a second, or even thought about him at all until seeing this topic. Not even sure where he is now. Basically my impression of him was a blowhard, throw shit against the wall type, yell louder than the next guy. Which, thinking about the current sports media landscape, means im sure he is doing quite well for himself somewhere...fits right in!
How does that affect our cap with regards to his salary - does a pro-rated portion of his base salary for the next eleven games come off our books right away?
If you're not sold on the Ravens (I'm not yet), and the Steelers would have beat them last Sunday if not for a horrible roughing the passer call, the AFC North is a poor division right now. And aside from the Bengals, everyone still has a reasonable chance. So the Steelers are far from out of it...
The division is poor, especially after the Browns were taken to the woodshed by the 49ers on Monday night. But I still think Baltimore wins that division.
The Ravens are a strange team this year. Who would have guessed their achilles heel is their D, which is in the bottom third for PPG allowed. Their secondary stinks right now...
I don’t see how the Jaguars would have any interest. Â
Minshew has thrown 9 TDS and 1INT with a 7.8 YPA and he’s five games into his pro career. Simply amazing for a low round rookie. If I were the Jags, I wouldn’t even reinsert Foles into the lineup. They may have their future QB right there.
And the guy is a social phenomenon. The team has really lucked out.
How does that affect our cap with regards to his salary - does a pro-rated portion of his base salary for the next eleven games come off our books right away?
most of those teams make no sense. Maybe Bears and Steelers given injuries, but the rest? no way
My thoughts as well. They both make a lot of sense. I’d actually take Eli over a healthy Trubisky this year and that’s a win now team.
But it would take Eli a few weeks to learn the playbook and it’s just really hard to make that transition mid season. That’s even if he wanted to. I just don’t see it.
what team is better with Eli playing QB. Maybe the Steelers if Rudolph is missing significant time? I suppose if some team feels they need a better backup, but I don't see a lot to be gained trading for a 2nd string QB. Not to mention it revives the Eli QB controversy for the new team. He's just as useful as the backup on the Giants if god forbid Jones was injured.
But it is going to be hysterical when the Bears cost themselves even a shot at a title because of their QB situation. Chase Daniel is not the answer - he wasn't last year, either - and that 2018 game against the Giants where he failed to execute even the simplest of plays (catching snaps, handoffs, etc.) cost the Bears the 2 seed and a bye in the POs.
If I were the Bears, I'd get on the phone ASAP and see what they want for Eli.
in year 2, Trubisky made the pro bowl on one of the better teams in the NFC. I'm not sold on him, but he kept surprising me last year when I expected him to fail. I don't the Bears will give up on him so soon. If somehow Eli does get traded to the Bears, he'll be there to just until Trubisky is healthy unless he somehow has an amazing run
I get there are posters here that use any possible rumor of a trade for Eli, as an opportunity to degrade the guy.
But Eli on the Bears makes a ton of sense, and it is not ridiculous to prefer Eli on a contender, over Trubisky,
I wanted to move on from Eli, but some of his critics here are hard to take.
Serious question; is Trubisky being given up on already?
He looks awful, hasn’t improved at all, very inconsistent. If I was the Bears and I had the defense they had, I would seriously be looking at finding a solution to get through the playoffs knowing that team is built around the defense and they aren’t going to keep that unit at the top forever.
Has a different value of Eli's worth at this point in his career than the rest of the known world. He is not going anywhere to prove you were correct about him not being finished. Let him spend the rest of the year teaching Jones. I think that was the deal DG made with Eli. They had a talk, remember? I speculate that Eli was told they would likely draft a QB and that he would be the starter and would keep that job if he won. He didn't. He looks like he might even be enjoying his new role. To me, Eli is the type of person that get a lot of enjoyment in helping people that are receptive to advice. I think he is staying to help. He is Giant blue all the way through.
If there's any truth to the rumor it's teams putting out a feeler for down the road if:
a) the team is in the playoff hunt
b) the team's starting QB goes down
Like Gettleman putting out a feeler to Steve Keim in April just in case Jones was off the board before the Giants had a chance to select him.
Not to mention Eli isn't a fit for Nagys offense at all. Â
If Tom Brady had a season ending injury and the Giants got a call from Bill Belichick.
Picture this: Tomorrow night Tom Brady tears his ACL on their first possession. Stidham comes in but plays poorly (sacks, fumbles, pick six). He's just not ready. By the time they replace him with Kessler, the Giants already have a double digit lead and then to add injury to injury, Kessler gets concussed. The following day, Gettleman gets a call from Belichick. By Saturday Eli is packing up his things for the drive up to Foxborough.
Cut to: February 2020. Giants vs Patriots in the Super Bowl. Jones vs Eli!
Just accept that NYG got their value (and then some) but Eli's time in the league as a useful QB has long expired. That goes for NYG or any other team. The Eli chapter is complete.
If there's any truth to the rumor it's teams putting out a feeler for down the road if:
a) the team is in the playoff hunt
b) the team's starting QB goes down
Like Gettleman putting out a feeler to Steve Keim in April just in case Jones was off the board before the Giants had a chance to select him.
Well, your "down the road" is only 20 days away. In 20 days, there are still lots of teams in the playoff hunt. After the trade deadline, the only way for Eli to join a new team this season would be for the Giants to release him. The problem with that scenario is that all players after the trade deadline have to pass through waivers. There is no guarantee that a team with playoff prospects is in line to put in a waiver claim. Also, if Eli goes unclaimed, then he can still be paid his full salary as termination pay so there is no cap savings for the Giants.
from google seems like he's a mix of sports talk and shock jock. Those guys almost never have any inside info like this.
Pretty sure he is a former Hurricane player. He was a radio personality in Miami or Orlando for a while, but has bounced around quite a bit. Never thought of him as a breaker of news.
no team in the NFL wants him. Eli might be one of the bottom tier back ups at this point
And I do not buy that Eli is such a huge influence on Jones. Not for 23 million dollars he is not
Such a smart idea. Let's cut him because....? We just want to ditch the most valuable backup we have right now, who is a vet that can help in the meeting room and in practice and on the sidelines, and can come in if needed and....
All so we can just create 13 million in dead cap? Essentially just burn that up in flames. Yeah, let's cut him.
no team in the NFL wants him. Eli might be one of the bottom tier back ups at this point
And I do not buy that Eli is such a huge influence on Jones. Not for 23 million dollars he is not
That's a hot take. Giants would still be on the hook for full cap hit. Doesn't it make sense that if you are still having to account for his cap hit that the Giants at least get some benefit of his services?
$17M in 2019 cash earnings. The full cap hit is $23M. The only way for the Giants to lessen the cap hit besides extending him is to trade him where the remaining unpaid salary is credited on the Giants cap. If Eli was traded on Friday, he would be owed $7,187,500. Each week Eli is paid $718,750. If Eli is traded at the deadline, he would have $5,750,000 in unpaid salary which the Giants would receive a cap credit for.
Unless Eli is demanding a trade, I don't see Mara/DG willing to trade a franchise legend for what amounts to a $6M cap savings.
I'm thankful for all Eli did to help the Giants win 2 SB's. Its a shame the organization failed him with its mostly poor decisions on drafting/personnel after 2011. I think he's truly upset about being benched, more than we will ever know. But, I also think he truly has class and is trying to help Jones.
I don't know what to think about this rumor. I don't think the source is credible. So, I don't think there have been any real offers acceptable to the Giants and Eli, who has veto power over any trades, yet. Will it happen, I think its unlikely.
I don't think he has anything else to prove though. He should hang them up. have his number retired and await his induction into the HOF.
If you're not sold on the Ravens (I'm not yet), and the Steelers would have beat them last Sunday if not for a horrible roughing the passer call, the AFC North is a poor division right now. And aside from the Bengals, everyone still has a reasonable chance. So the Steelers are far from out of it...
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not true, but the Bears make the most sense given their defense. The Bills are another possibility for the reasons Sy notes. Allen takes a lot of hits. I don't see the Steelers. They are not a playoff team, and just traded their first round pick next year.
If you're not sold on the Ravens (I'm not yet), and the Steelers would have beat them last Sunday if not for a horrible roughing the passer call, the AFC North is a poor division right now. And aside from the Bengals, everyone still has a reasonable chance. So the Steelers are far from out of it...
The division is poor, especially after the Browns were taken to the woodshed by the 49ers on Monday night. But I still think Baltimore wins that division.
Arians/Eli would be an interesting pairing.
If you're not sold on the Ravens (I'm not yet), and the Steelers would have beat them last Sunday if not for a horrible roughing the passer call, the AFC North is a poor division right now. And aside from the Bengals, everyone still has a reasonable chance. So the Steelers are far from out of it...
The division is poor, especially after the Browns were taken to the woodshed by the 49ers on Monday night. But I still think Baltimore wins that division.
The Ravens are a strange team this year. Who would have guessed their achilles heel is their D, which is in the bottom third for PPG allowed. Their secondary stinks right now...
And the guy is a social phenomenon. The team has really lucked out.
Yes.
My thoughts as well. They both make a lot of sense. I’d actually take Eli over a healthy Trubisky this year and that’s a win now team.
But it would take Eli a few weeks to learn the playbook and it’s just really hard to make that transition mid season. That’s even if he wanted to. I just don’t see it.
Jay did report something over the weekend. Not a report per se but one of his "I wouldn't be surprised if..." statements
But Eli on the Bears makes a ton of sense, and it is not ridiculous to prefer Eli on a contender, over Trubisky,
I wanted to move on from Eli, but some of his critics here are hard to take.
If I were the Bears, I'd get on the phone ASAP and see what they want for Eli.
But Eli on the Bears makes a ton of sense, and it is not ridiculous to prefer Eli on a contender, over Trubisky,
I wanted to move on from Eli, but some of his critics here are hard to take.
Serious question; is Trubisky being given up on already?
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I get there are posters here that use any possible rumor of a trade for Eli, as an opportunity to degrade the guy.
But Eli on the Bears makes a ton of sense, and it is not ridiculous to prefer Eli on a contender, over Trubisky,
I wanted to move on from Eli, but some of his critics here are hard to take.
Serious question; is Trubisky being given up on already?
He looks awful, hasn’t improved at all, very inconsistent. If I was the Bears and I had the defense they had, I would seriously be looking at finding a solution to get through the playoffs knowing that team is built around the defense and they aren’t going to keep that unit at the top forever.
Very good point. I've seen them in the bottom 20% of pass protection thus far in 2019. And just as low in the run-blocking department.
Too many people don't pay attention...
a) the team is in the playoff hunt
b) the team's starting QB goes down
Like Gettleman putting out a feeler to Steve Keim in April just in case Jones was off the board before the Giants had a chance to select him.
Picture this: Tomorrow night Tom Brady tears his ACL on their first possession. Stidham comes in but plays poorly (sacks, fumbles, pick six). He's just not ready. By the time they replace him with Kessler, the Giants already have a double digit lead and then to add injury to injury, Kessler gets concussed. The following day, Gettleman gets a call from Belichick. By Saturday Eli is packing up his things for the drive up to Foxborough.
Cut to: February 2020. Giants vs Patriots in the Super Bowl. Jones vs Eli!
I know, I know, it isn't gonna be that way... - ( New Window )
up next year as well. He knows PS's system.
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a) the team is in the playoff hunt
b) the team's starting QB goes down
Like Gettleman putting out a feeler to Steve Keim in April just in case Jones was off the board before the Giants had a chance to select him.
Well, your "down the road" is only 20 days away. In 20 days, there are still lots of teams in the playoff hunt. After the trade deadline, the only way for Eli to join a new team this season would be for the Giants to release him. The problem with that scenario is that all players after the trade deadline have to pass through waivers. There is no guarantee that a team with playoff prospects is in line to put in a waiver claim. Also, if Eli goes unclaimed, then he can still be paid his full salary as termination pay so there is no cap savings for the Giants.
Pretty sure he is a former Hurricane player. He was a radio personality in Miami or Orlando for a while, but has bounced around quite a bit. Never thought of him as a breaker of news.
The only benefit I see is if they get cap relief this year and use it to get a sign and trade for Trent Williams or Jalen Ramsey.
And I do not buy that Eli is such a huge influence on Jones. Not for 23 million dollars he is not
And I do not buy that Eli is such a huge influence on Jones. Not for 23 million dollars he is not
Such a smart idea. Let's cut him because....? We just want to ditch the most valuable backup we have right now, who is a vet that can help in the meeting room and in practice and on the sidelines, and can come in if needed and....
All so we can just create 13 million in dead cap? Essentially just burn that up in flames. Yeah, let's cut him.
And I do not buy that Eli is such a huge influence on Jones. Not for 23 million dollars he is not
That's a hot take. Giants would still be on the hook for full cap hit. Doesn't it make sense that if you are still having to account for his cap hit that the Giants at least get some benefit of his services?
$17M in 2019 cash earnings. The full cap hit is $23M. The only way for the Giants to lessen the cap hit besides extending him is to trade him where the remaining unpaid salary is credited on the Giants cap. If Eli was traded on Friday, he would be owed $7,187,500. Each week Eli is paid $718,750. If Eli is traded at the deadline, he would have $5,750,000 in unpaid salary which the Giants would receive a cap credit for.
Unless Eli is demanding a trade, I don't see Mara/DG willing to trade a franchise legend for what amounts to a $6M cap savings.
And I do not buy that Eli is such a huge influence on Jones. Not for 23 million dollars he is not
The dupe with the sole purpose of posting inflammatory shit about Eli keeps the streak going!!
And I do not buy that Eli is such a huge influence on Jones. Not for 23 million dollars he is not
Another brilliant take...
I don't know what to think about this rumor. I don't think the source is credible. So, I don't think there have been any real offers acceptable to the Giants and Eli, who has veto power over any trades, yet. Will it happen, I think its unlikely.
I don't think he has anything else to prove though. He should hang them up. have his number retired and await his induction into the HOF.