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Rumor: Giants have taken calls on Eli from these 5 teams

FranknWeezer : 10/9/2019 11:57 am
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Dan Sileo
@DanSileoShow
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.@Giants hve taken calls for #EliManning from @bears @Vikings @steelers @BuffaloBills @Jaguars ...(Eli has a No trade)


Anybody know anything about this guy's track record/connections? Never heard of him prior to this tweet.
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I'd be shocked if those 5 teams weren't calling everyone  
MBavaro : 10/9/2019 12:35 pm : link
who may have a potential QB for a trade, no matter how far fetched a deal may be. It's called due diligence.
RE: Probably  
bw in dc : 10/9/2019 12:37 pm : link
In comment 14619907 AcidTest said:
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not true, but the Bears make the most sense given their defense. The Bills are another possibility for the reasons Sy notes. Allen takes a lot of hits. I don't see the Steelers. They are not a playoff team, and just traded their first round pick next year.



If you're not sold on the Ravens (I'm not yet), and the Steelers would have beat them last Sunday if not for a horrible roughing the passer call, the AFC North is a poor division right now. And aside from the Bengals, everyone still has a reasonable chance. So the Steelers are far from out of it...
RE: RE: Probably  
AcidTest : 10/9/2019 12:41 pm : link
In comment 14619916 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14619907 AcidTest said:


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not true, but the Bears make the most sense given their defense. The Bills are another possibility for the reasons Sy notes. Allen takes a lot of hits. I don't see the Steelers. They are not a playoff team, and just traded their first round pick next year.





If you're not sold on the Ravens (I'm not yet), and the Steelers would have beat them last Sunday if not for a horrible roughing the passer call, the AFC North is a poor division right now. And aside from the Bengals, everyone still has a reasonable chance. So the Steelers are far from out of it...


The division is poor, especially after the Browns were taken to the woodshed by the 49ers on Monday night. But I still think Baltimore wins that division.
Ugh.....Sileo  
John In CO : 10/9/2019 12:44 pm : link
Cant say whether what he is saying has any legs or not...who knows...but I am familiar with Sileo. He is an ex-Miami Hurricane DL from back in the day. He used to host a morning radio show when I live in FL 10-15 years ago. Absolutely could not stand that guy. Havent missed him for a second, or even thought about him at all until seeing this topic. Not even sure where he is now. Basically my impression of him was a blowhard, throw shit against the wall type, yell louder than the next guy. Which, thinking about the current sports media landscape, means im sure he is doing quite well for himself somewhere...fits right in!
Eli Has a full no trade  
LTIsTheGreatest : 10/9/2019 12:47 pm : link
and wouldn't consider going anywhere unless he could step right in and start.
Let's say Eli was traded today  
BlackLight : 10/9/2019 12:52 pm : link
How does that affect our cap with regards to his salary - does a pro-rated portion of his base salary for the next eleven games come off our books right away?
Not surprised Bears called.  
BBelle21 : 10/9/2019 1:02 pm : link
Vikings not surprising either. Surprised by Steelers. My Steelers friend would be ecstatic if Eli went there. IF this rumor is true.
Tampa Bay makes the most sense  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/9/2019 1:02 pm : link
with their beastly receivers, crab legs reverting to form and throwing two pick sixes in a game, and the Arians-Carson Palmer vibe.
RE: Tampa Bay makes the most sense  
BBelle21 : 10/9/2019 1:05 pm : link
In comment 14619966 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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with their beastly receivers, crab legs reverting to form and throwing two pick sixes in a game, and the Arians-Carson Palmer vibe.


Arians/Eli would be an interesting pairing.
RE: RE: RE: Probably  
bw in dc : 10/9/2019 1:08 pm : link
In comment 14619922 AcidTest said:
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If you're not sold on the Ravens (I'm not yet), and the Steelers would have beat them last Sunday if not for a horrible roughing the passer call, the AFC North is a poor division right now. And aside from the Bengals, everyone still has a reasonable chance. So the Steelers are far from out of it...



The division is poor, especially after the Browns were taken to the woodshed by the 49ers on Monday night. But I still think Baltimore wins that division.


The Ravens are a strange team this year. Who would have guessed their achilles heel is their D, which is in the bottom third for PPG allowed. Their secondary stinks right now...
I donít see how the Jaguars would have any interest.  
cosmicj : 10/9/2019 1:17 pm : link
Minshew has thrown 9 TDS and 1INT with a 7.8 YPA and heís five games into his pro career. Simply amazing for a low round rookie. If I were the Jags, I wouldnít even reinsert Foles into the lineup. They may have their future QB right there.

And the guy is a social phenomenon. The team has really lucked out.
RE: Let's say Eli was traded today  
Diver_Down : 10/9/2019 1:29 pm : link
In comment 14619943 BlackLight said:
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How does that affect our cap with regards to his salary - does a pro-rated portion of his base salary for the next eleven games come off our books right away?


Yes.
RE: .  
TyreeHelmet : 10/9/2019 1:38 pm : link
In comment 14619882 Banks said:
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most of those teams make no sense. Maybe Bears and Steelers given injuries, but the rest? no way


My thoughts as well. They both make a lot of sense. Iíd actually take Eli over a healthy Trubisky this year and thatís a win now team.

But it would take Eli a few weeks to learn the playbook and itís just really hard to make that transition mid season. Thatís even if he wanted to. I just donít see it.
Stop  
Thegratefulhead : 10/9/2019 1:52 pm : link
Tell me if Glazer reports it. Otherwise...snooze. I don't see it. Eli has not looked good in quite a while.
RE: Stop  
ron mexico : 10/9/2019 1:53 pm : link
In comment 14620052 Thegratefulhead said:
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Tell me if Glazer reports it. Otherwise...snooze. I don't see it. Eli has not looked good in quite a while.


Jay did report something over the weekend. Not a report per se but one of his "I wouldn't be surprised if..." statements
Agree  
Carl in CT : 10/9/2019 2:06 pm : link
Bears only team which makes sense
I just don't see  
BigBluesman : 10/9/2019 2:11 pm : link
what team is better with Eli playing QB. Maybe the Steelers if Rudolph is missing significant time? I suppose if some team feels they need a better backup, but I don't see a lot to be gained trading for a 2nd string QB. Not to mention it revives the Eli QB controversy for the new team. He's just as useful as the backup on the Giants if god forbid Jones was injured.
Bears and Vikings would be SB contenders  
arniefez : 10/9/2019 2:12 pm : link
with Eli.
Why would anyone scoff at the Bears rumor  
joeinpa : 10/9/2019 2:34 pm : link
I get there are posters here that use any possible rumor of a trade for Eli, as an opportunity to degrade the guy.

But Eli on the Bears makes a ton of sense, and it is not ridiculous to prefer Eli on a contender, over Trubisky,

I wanted to move on from Eli, but some of his critics here are hard to take.
I'd assume the rumor is bogus  
Giants38 : 10/9/2019 2:38 pm : link
But it is going to be hysterical when the Bears cost themselves even a shot at a title because of their QB situation. Chase Daniel is not the answer - he wasn't last year, either - and that 2018 game against the Giants where he failed to execute even the simplest of plays (catching snaps, handoffs, etc.) cost the Bears the 2 seed and a bye in the POs.

If I were the Bears, I'd get on the phone ASAP and see what they want for Eli.
Bears makes the most sense to me  
markky : 10/9/2019 2:48 pm : link
Eli for this year's playoffs and maybe next. Bears restart with a different QB after Eli.
The fact that Tanney seems to be....  
MOOPS : 10/9/2019 2:50 pm : link
untouchable lends credence to the POSSIBILITY that under the right circumstances Eli COULD be traded.
RE: Why would anyone scoff at the Bears rumor  
BigBluesman : 10/9/2019 2:58 pm : link
In comment 14620111 joeinpa said:
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I get there are posters here that use any possible rumor of a trade for Eli, as an opportunity to degrade the guy.

But Eli on the Bears makes a ton of sense, and it is not ridiculous to prefer Eli on a contender, over Trubisky,

I wanted to move on from Eli, but some of his critics here are hard to take.

Serious question; is Trubisky being given up on already?
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Banks : 10/9/2019 3:05 pm : link
in year 2, Trubisky made the pro bowl on one of the better teams in the NFC. I'm not sold on him, but he kept surprising me last year when I expected him to fail. I don't the Bears will give up on him so soon. If somehow Eli does get traded to the Bears, he'll be there to just until Trubisky is healthy unless he somehow has an amazing run
Trubisky  
arniefez : 10/9/2019 3:08 pm : link
has been awful. Daniel is actually better than Trubisky. At least right now.
RE: RE: Why would anyone scoff at the Bears rumor  
beatrixkiddo : 10/9/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14620153 BigBluesman said:
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In comment 14620111 joeinpa said:


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I get there are posters here that use any possible rumor of a trade for Eli, as an opportunity to degrade the guy.

But Eli on the Bears makes a ton of sense, and it is not ridiculous to prefer Eli on a contender, over Trubisky,

I wanted to move on from Eli, but some of his critics here are hard to take.


Serious question; is Trubisky being given up on already?


He looks awful, hasnít improved at all, very inconsistent. If I was the Bears and I had the defense they had, I would seriously be looking at finding a solution to get through the playoffs knowing that team is built around the defense and they arenít going to keep that unit at the top forever.
Remember Glazer  
EJJ : 10/9/2019 3:34 pm : link
Reported a trade for Eli might happen and he is very credible!
Glazer didn't say anything about a trade. He said the Giants would  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/9/2019 3:51 pm : link
attempt to shop him. Doesn't mean there are buyers.
Everyone here realizes Bears Oline is trash right?  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/9/2019 3:52 pm : link
.
RE: Everyone here realizes Bears Oline is trash right?  
bw in dc : 10/9/2019 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14620207 Zeke's Alibi said:
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Very good point. I've seen them in the bottom 20% of pass protection thus far in 2019. And just as low in the run-blocking department.

Too many people don't pay attention...
Some of BBI  
Thegratefulhead : 10/9/2019 4:10 pm : link
Has a different value of Eli's worth at this point in his career than the rest of the known world. He is not going anywhere to prove you were correct about him not being finished. Let him spend the rest of the year teaching Jones. I think that was the deal DG made with Eli. They had a talk, remember? I speculate that Eli was told they would likely draft a QB and that he would be the starter and would keep that job if he won. He didn't. He looks like he might even be enjoying his new role. To me, Eli is the type of person that get a lot of enjoyment in helping people that are receptive to advice. I think he is staying to help. He is Giant blue all the way through.
Taking calls could mean different things  
Milton : 10/9/2019 4:16 pm : link
If there's any truth to the rumor it's teams putting out a feeler for down the road if:
a) the team is in the playoff hunt
b) the team's starting QB goes down

Like Gettleman putting out a feeler to Steve Keim in April just in case Jones was off the board before the Giants had a chance to select him.
Not to mention Eli isn't a fit for Nagys offense at all.  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/9/2019 4:16 pm : link
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You know what would be something?  
Milton : 10/9/2019 4:27 pm : link
If Tom Brady had a season ending injury and the Giants got a call from Bill Belichick.

Picture this: Tomorrow night Tom Brady tears his ACL on their first possession. Stidham comes in but plays poorly (sacks, fumbles, pick six). He's just not ready. By the time they replace him with Kessler, the Giants already have a double digit lead and then to add injury to injury, Kessler gets concussed. The following day, Gettleman gets a call from Belichick. By Saturday Eli is packing up his things for the drive up to Foxborough.

Cut to: February 2020. Giants vs Patriots in the Super Bowl. Jones vs Eli!

I know, I know, it isn't gonna be that way... - ( New Window )
Guys  
Pep22 : 10/9/2019 4:47 pm : link
Just accept that NYG got their value (and then some) but Eli's time in the league as a useful QB has long expired. That goes for NYG or any other team. The Eli chapter is complete.
Dan Sileo  
chiro56 : 10/9/2019 5:17 pm : link
Worked in radio here in So. Cal. He kinda sucked and was a blowhard . I think he was fired. Everybody he worked with and callers would bust his balls.
RE: The fact that Tanney seems to be....  
Rong5611 : 10/9/2019 5:25 pm : link
Yes, that's possible. They do need aback
up next year as well. He knows PS's system.

In comment 14620143 MOOPS said:
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untouchable lends credence to the POSSIBILITY that under the right circumstances Eli COULD be traded.
RE: Taking calls could mean different things  
Diver_Down : 10/9/2019 6:12 pm : link
In comment 14620231 Milton said:
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If there's any truth to the rumor it's teams putting out a feeler for down the road if:
a) the team is in the playoff hunt
b) the team's starting QB goes down

Like Gettleman putting out a feeler to Steve Keim in April just in case Jones was off the board before the Giants had a chance to select him.


Well, your "down the road" is only 20 days away. In 20 days, there are still lots of teams in the playoff hunt. After the trade deadline, the only way for Eli to join a new team this season would be for the Giants to release him. The problem with that scenario is that all players after the trade deadline have to pass through waivers. There is no guarantee that a team with playoff prospects is in line to put in a waiver claim. Also, if Eli goes unclaimed, then he can still be paid his full salary as termination pay so there is no cap savings for the Giants.
RE: never heard of this guy  
Ivan15 : 10/9/2019 6:49 pm : link
In comment 14619895 bluepepper said:
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from google seems like he's a mix of sports talk and shock jock. Those guys almost never have any inside info like this.


Pretty sure he is a former Hurricane player. He was a radio personality in Miami or Orlando for a while, but has bounced around quite a bit. Never thought of him as a breaker of news.
I wouldn't  
jtfuoco : 10/9/2019 6:51 pm : link
Mind him going to the bears he could make one last run with that defense
I could believe the Bears, Steelers, and Jags for the rest of the year  
Ivan15 : 10/9/2019 6:53 pm : link
But I think Eli would want next year as a starter in the deal. Only the Bears could offer that if they dump Trubisky at the end of the year.
Giants would not get much  
Reale01 : 10/9/2019 6:56 pm : link
Probably not worth it to them or Eli.

The only benefit I see is if they get cap relief this year and use it to get a sign and trade for Trent Williams or Jalen Ramsey.
Giants should cut Eli  
Junior22 : 10/10/2019 8:06 am : link
no team in the NFL wants him. Eli might be one of the bottom tier back ups at this point

And I do not buy that Eli is such a huge influence on Jones. Not for 23 million dollars he is not

RE: Giants should cut Eli  
Britt in VA : 10/10/2019 8:08 am : link
In comment 14620728 Junior22 said:
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no team in the NFL wants him. Eli might be one of the bottom tier back ups at this point

And I do not buy that Eli is such a huge influence on Jones. Not for 23 million dollars he is not


Such a smart idea. Let's cut him because....? We just want to ditch the most valuable backup we have right now, who is a vet that can help in the meeting room and in practice and on the sidelines, and can come in if needed and....

All so we can just create 13 million in dead cap? Essentially just burn that up in flames. Yeah, let's cut him.
RE: Giants should cut Eli  
Diver_Down : 10/10/2019 8:08 am : link
In comment 14620728 Junior22 said:
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no team in the NFL wants him. Eli might be one of the bottom tier back ups at this point

And I do not buy that Eli is such a huge influence on Jones. Not for 23 million dollars he is not


That's a hot take. Giants would still be on the hook for full cap hit. Doesn't it make sense that if you are still having to account for his cap hit that the Giants at least get some benefit of his services?
excuse me, yeah, 17 million in dead cap.  
Britt in VA : 10/10/2019 8:09 am : link
Great idea.
RE: excuse me, yeah, 17 million in dead cap.  
Diver_Down : 10/10/2019 8:39 am : link
In comment 14620735 Britt in VA said:
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Great idea.


$17M in 2019 cash earnings. The full cap hit is $23M. The only way for the Giants to lessen the cap hit besides extending him is to trade him where the remaining unpaid salary is credited on the Giants cap. If Eli was traded on Friday, he would be owed $7,187,500. Each week Eli is paid $718,750. If Eli is traded at the deadline, he would have $5,750,000 in unpaid salary which the Giants would receive a cap credit for.

Unless Eli is demanding a trade, I don't see Mara/DG willing to trade a franchise legend for what amounts to a $6M cap savings.
RE: Giants should cut Eli  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/10/2019 8:41 am : link
In comment 14620728 Junior22 said:
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no team in the NFL wants him. Eli might be one of the bottom tier back ups at this point

And I do not buy that Eli is such a huge influence on Jones. Not for 23 million dollars he is not


The dupe with the sole purpose of posting inflammatory shit about Eli keeps the streak going!!
RE: Giants should cut Eli  
arcarsenal : 10/10/2019 8:43 am : link
In comment 14620728 Junior22 said:
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no team in the NFL wants him. Eli might be one of the bottom tier back ups at this point

And I do not buy that Eli is such a huge influence on Jones. Not for 23 million dollars he is not


Another brilliant take...
Hmmm  
Rong5611 : 10/10/2019 8:51 am : link
I'm thankful for all Eli did to help the Giants win 2 SB's. Its a shame the organization failed him with its mostly poor decisions on drafting/personnel after 2011. I think he's truly upset about being benched, more than we will ever know. But, I also think he truly has class and is trying to help Jones.

I don't know what to think about this rumor. I don't think the source is credible. So, I don't think there have been any real offers acceptable to the Giants and Eli, who has veto power over any trades, yet. Will it happen, I think its unlikely.

I don't think he has anything else to prove though. He should hang them up. have his number retired and await his induction into the HOF.

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