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Barkley, Gallman, Shepard and Engram all OUT tomorrow

ArizonaBlue : 10/9/2019 12:54 pm
just got the alert on my phone
Tomorrow night's going to be a  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/9/2019 12:54 pm : link
blast!
As  
ArizonaBlue : 10/9/2019 12:55 pm : link
expected I guess. I'll be recording this one and watching friday.
This really really really sucks  
ryanmkeane : 10/9/2019 12:55 pm : link
ultimately, might be the best thing. but fuck
Who from the NFL Scheduling Crew  
Saos1n : 10/9/2019 12:55 pm : link
Thought it would be a good idea to put Duke @ Patriots on TNF?

SMH
I wonder who could have played if the game was on Sunday.  
Britt in VA : 10/9/2019 12:57 pm : link
.
If  
AcidTest : 10/9/2019 12:58 pm : link
you've got a Walter Mitty fantasy about playing RB for the Giants, now is definitely the time to call the FO.
At least it won't ruin our weekend.  
bceagle05 : 10/9/2019 12:58 pm : link
I'll watch a good bit of Astros/Rays.
Who has the stomach...  
M.S. : 10/9/2019 1:03 pm : link

...to watch this game?
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/9/2019 1:03 pm : link
Lorenzo Carter also questionable again.
Engram is frustrating.  
Britt in VA : 10/9/2019 1:03 pm : link
Dude seems to be always hurt.
.  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/9/2019 1:04 pm : link
Why don't you put her in charge then?!?!?!  
Britt in VA : 10/9/2019 1:05 pm : link
!?!
RE: Who from the NFL Scheduling Crew  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/9/2019 1:05 pm : link
In comment 14619952 Saos1n said:
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Thought it would be a good idea to put Duke @ Patriots on TNF?

SMH

I think Duke had more than 1 Rutgers HB and 1 FB.
Yikes ..  
Bluesbreaker : 10/9/2019 1:06 pm : link
Pats can rest there starters and still win .
Mr Jones your mission if you decide to accept it is
too run for your life keep your head on a swivel and
go into a slide early . Gonna be a long night for the
punter and special teams .
and R.I.P. to the late, great Bill Paxton.  
Britt in VA : 10/9/2019 1:06 pm : link
Game over indeed.
I expect to come out of this game  
bceagle05 : 10/9/2019 1:07 pm : link
with a greater respect and appreciation for Daniel Jones - he'll show up and compete his ass off, despite the circumstances. Curious to see who else does. Also curious to see if Shurmur will be laughing it up in the post-game presser after a 30-point beatdown.
They didn’t bring a RB in?  
Rflairr : 10/9/2019 1:12 pm : link
Jeesh
RE: Engram is frustrating.  
Carson53 : 10/9/2019 1:20 pm : link
In comment 14619972 Britt in VA said:
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Dude seems to be always hurt.
.

So is Shepard, I feel for him with the concussion thing,
but doesn't change the fact he is always nicked up.
Engram made it thru five weeks this season...
The good news is  
Diver_Down : 10/9/2019 1:21 pm : link
that at least I'll be able to go to bed at a respectable time instead of staying up watching the shit-show.
RE: RE: Engram is frustrating.  
Britt in VA : 10/9/2019 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14620008 Carson53 said:
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In comment 14619972 Britt in VA said:


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Dude seems to be always hurt.

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So is Shepard, I feel for him with the concussion thing,
but doesn't change the fact he is always nicked up.
Engram made it thru five weeks this season...


I left him off because of the concussion thing. That's just bad luck and it sucks.
Well, we thought we were getting our own version of Jordan Reed  
Brown Recluse : 10/9/2019 1:25 pm : link
when Engram was drafted, and that seems to be exactly what we got - injuries and all.
Fortunately we got the ‘Cuse coming to Raleigh on Thursday.  
Spider56 : 10/9/2019 1:31 pm : link
Should be perfect weather and we can catch the Giants on DVR later.
RE: Well, we thought we were getting our own version of Jordan Reed  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 10/9/2019 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14620015 Brown Recluse said:
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when Engram was drafted, and that seems to be exactly what we got - injuries and all.

Speedy tall big guys, maybe its just basic physics in effect.
RE: Engram is frustrating.  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/9/2019 1:59 pm : link
In comment 14619972 Britt in VA said:
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Dude seems to be always hurt.


You could say that about every pass catching tight end in the league. Just the nature of the position.
Good thing we had 5 TEs on the roster...  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/9/2019 2:04 pm : link
Quantity over quality for Engram’s backup, amiright?
I thought maybe they've got a really  
Dnew15 : 10/9/2019 2:12 pm : link
tough opponent next week and they'll be looking past the Giants....they play the Jets.
Brady  
LeftHook : 10/9/2019 2:24 pm : link
Will probably get a breather going into the 4th. Stidham will then come in, and get some reps.
Just because...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/9/2019 2:25 pm : link
Why haven't they added  
Jay on the Island : 10/9/2019 2:31 pm : link
another RB? Hilliman does not belong on an NFL roster and he is starting again?
RE: Why haven't they added  
MotownGIANTS : 10/9/2019 2:34 pm : link
In comment 14620104 Jay on the Island said:
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another RB? Hilliman does not belong on an NFL roster and he is starting again?


Because a fresh green new RB is now going to be good in pass pro ... lets not get Jones killed ... Solder is doing a good job all by himself
*not  
MotownGIANTS : 10/9/2019 2:34 pm : link
now is a typo
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/9/2019 2:42 pm : link
David Syvertsen
@Ourlads_Sy
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38m
I think Shepard won't play again until 2020
Disgusting.  
Dave in Hoboken : 10/9/2019 2:47 pm : link
.
RE: Brady  
Diver_Down : 10/9/2019 2:49 pm : link
In comment 14620097 LeftHook said:
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Will probably get a breather going into the 4th minute of the 2nd Quarter. Stidham will then come in, and get some reps.


Fixed it for you.
RE: ...  
allstarjim : 10/9/2019 3:00 pm : link
In comment 14620130 Eric from BBI said:
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David Syvertsen
@Ourlads_Sy
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38m
I think Shepard won't play again until 2020



WTF!

Is this just intuition or based on anything?

Btw, I think you'll see Penny handle a lot of work tomorrow night as well. I think he's a better pass protector than Hilliman, at least he's stouter, and he actually runs well and catches well. I could see Penny out-touching Hilliman but it will probably be close.
This is going to be fun!  
Simms11 : 10/9/2019 3:00 pm : link
Even at full strength it was going to be a very difficult Challenge, but the Giants will be rolling out the JV team now on National TV. If the Giants can at least keep it close, it'll be a win in my book.
It would appear  
ryanmkeane : 10/9/2019 3:13 pm : link
Sy has some interesting takes on twitter that might surprise some folks on BBI that only know him for his Giants draft and game reviews
By the End of the third quarter  
liteamorn : 10/9/2019 3:19 pm : link
All the Pat defense is going to have to do is yell "LOOK OUT" and Jones will diving for cover.
This season is reminding me of David Carr's rookie year in Houston, he was a top draft pick with high expectations and came out punch drunk from the beating he took.
RE: Why haven't they added  
Jay on the Island : 10/9/2019 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14620104 Jay on the Island said:
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another RB? Hilliman does not belong on an NFL roster and he is starting again?

Had they signed Ajayi, CJ Anderson, or another vet monday they could have gotten caught up enough to play tomorrow. They could also promote Austin Walter from the PS. He can't be worse than Hilliman.
I wonder if they can keep the Pats  
Carson53 : 10/9/2019 3:35 pm : link
under 40 points myself, well when it turns into a blowout,
there is always Rays/Astros...
RE: RE: Why haven't they added  
Carson53 : 10/9/2019 3:52 pm : link
In comment 14620184 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14620104 Jay on the Island said:


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another RB? Hilliman does not belong on an NFL roster and he is starting again?


Had they signed Ajayi, CJ Anderson, or another vet monday they could have gotten caught up enough to play tomorrow. They could also promote Austin Walter from the PS. He can't be worse than Hilliman.
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They re-structured somebody's contract recently
(can't recall who it was?). I recall reading it gave them an extra 5 mill. towards the cap this season.
They could have used some of that before last week,
and brought in another RB, before bringing Hilliman up from the PS.
Even before Gallman's concussion, they knew Barkley was out for awhile. That's not very smart.
This game  
NikkiMac : 10/9/2019 3:56 pm : link
Is going to be closer than people think take the Giants and the points
Agree with not playing those guys  
idiotsavant : 10/9/2019 4:15 pm : link
I mean " RUN...RUN AWAY!"
NFL players are so fast and strong  
chiro56 : 10/9/2019 5:24 pm : link
Now vs even 20 years ago,injuries are endemic . It’s become a game of last man standing and which team is deep enough and lucky enough to win till the end.
Without these guys, it's going to be a real embarrassment  
V.I.G. : 10/9/2019 5:55 pm : link
for the Pats when we win
Eric  
Carl in CT : 10/9/2019 6:15 pm : link
If he doesn’t play all year we can’t give him the $8m guaranteed in March. In effect he might have played his last game as a giant.
At this point, who really cares about this game  
micky : 10/9/2019 6:34 pm : link
It's like a bye week for the Giants (for the Pats for that matter too 🤣😂)

RE: Eric  
Diver_Down : 10/9/2019 6:53 pm : link
In comment 14620373 Carl in CT said:
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If he doesn’t play all year we can’t give him the $8m guaranteed in March. In effect he might have played his last game as a giant.


I'm not sure what you are talking about. I presume you are referring to Shep based on Eric quote of Sy's tweet. Shep's 2020 salary is guaranteed on March 20th. Nothing gets paid in March. It just means that his paychecks from Sept - Dec. are guaranteed. His salary for 2020 is $6.45M. I don't know where you are getting $8M.
ugh.  
dlauster : 10/9/2019 8:16 pm : link
Once again we will appear as a national laughing stock. It seems we always play worse in prime time, at least in the last 5 years.
RE: At this point, who really cares about this game  
Rflairr : 10/9/2019 9:25 pm : link
In comment 14620390 micky said:
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It's like a bye week for the Giants (for the Pats for that matter too 🤣😂)


lol
Both teams run the ball 50 times  
PEEJ : 10/9/2019 9:39 pm : link
and finish the game in 1 hour
RE: RE: Why haven't they added  
section125 : 10/9/2019 9:47 pm : link
In comment 14620184 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14620104 Jay on the Island said:


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another RB? Hilliman does not belong on an NFL roster and he is starting again?


Had they signed Ajayi, CJ Anderson, or another vet monday they could have gotten caught up enough to play tomorrow. They could also promote Austin Walter from the PS. He can't be worse than Hilliman.


Get a grip. Nobody is coming in Monday and learning enough to play two practices later. Only the PS kid could play Thursday with some partial knowledge of the offense.
Time  
Les in TO : 10/9/2019 10:01 pm : link
To bust out the wildcat offense.
RE: ...  
Matt M. : 10/10/2019 7:39 am : link
In comment 14620130 Eric from BBI said:
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David Syvertsen
@Ourlads_Sy
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38m
I think Shepard won't play again until 2020
If true, wouldnt not playing ever again have to be a consideration?
RE: Time  
section125 : 10/10/2019 8:29 am : link
In comment 14620535 Les in TO said:
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To bust out the wildcat offense.


Can't chance the concussion Les!
What's the pool on Lawrence?  
x meadowlander : 10/10/2019 9:16 am : link
On Jones?

Week 7? 9?

How long til' Eli's back? Til we sign street free agents to play OT?

I LOVE seeing all the new faces - I LOVE the NYG Injury machine!! If there's one thing we can count on, it's high mileage on the cart!
RE: Eric  
christian : 10/10/2019 9:18 am : link
In comment 14620373 Carl in CT said:
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If he doesn’t play all year we can’t give him the $8m guaranteed in March. In effect he might have played his last game as a giant.


Cutting Shepard would incur 8M in dead cap space and save 500K.

Most of his 2020 ($5.45M) is already fully guaranteed and the remaining is injury protected and vests in March of 2020.

Shepard being on the roster in March doesn't guarantee new 8M dollars.

There's virtually no financial downside to letting him recover and seeing if he can get his health back on track for next year.
Roster MGMT for tonight  
Pep22 : 10/10/2019 9:38 am : link
Walter for Gallman?

Dickerson for Engram?

Davis/Ogletree for Stupar/Tauefua?

Agree?

Am I missing any?
At least it's not NCAA Division 1 football  
Marty in Albany : 10/10/2019 9:43 am : link
If this were college, they would try to run up the score.

Mercifully, the Patriots will pull their starters when the game is comfortably in hand rather than try to score 100 points.
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