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Q& A: LT on the legacies of Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells

Steve in ATL : 10/9/2019 4:39 pm
Q& A with Myers on The Athletic

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Myers: You mentioned there are some rules today that would be a problem for you. For example?

Taylor: The rules are what they are. But you know, the safety you put on quarterbacks…sometimes when you get into a collision, you can’t really tell where your helmet is going to be. If you look at where your helmet is going to be, I don’t know if I want that son of a bitch playing defense for me, okay? Just like the wide receivers now. Antonio Brown and all these guys. All of a sudden they got their mouth chirping, nobody gets to touch them, you get to run the whole field. Man, when I was playing, you come across the middle, it’s a no-fly zone. You don’t come across there. You get knocked the fuck out if you come across there. Nowadays, they come through there with tutus.

https://theathletic.com/1280339/2019/10/09/the-athletic-qa-lawrence-taylor-on-the-legacies-of-bill-belichick-and-bill-parcells-and-more/ - ( New Window )
LT is absolutely right  
jvm52106 : 10/9/2019 4:59 pm : link
about the Diva WR's who run their mouth and are all me me guys. They would have been abused by guys like Ronnie Lott, Kenny Easley, Steve Atwater, Dennis Smith, David Fulcher etc..
He played football  
Sneakers O'toole : 10/9/2019 5:00 pm : link
Not whatever this crap today is.
Yep but I believe the tackles were cleaner. Hard hitting  
Blue21 : 10/9/2019 5:57 pm : link
tackles. Maybe I'm wrong but I believe LT wrapped people up hard to take them to the ground. He punished them that way. None of this missile launching stuff. That's the way I remember it.
Except health-wise, because  
Big Blue '56 : 10/9/2019 6:01 pm : link
of the lack of player protection “enjoyed” today, players of his generation are developing brain and other physical maladies.

Sure it was awesome to see LT at work, but there were terrible consequences..

A brutal game
I remember Mark Collins, I think, talking after XXV about Buffalo WRs  
Greg from LI : 10/9/2019 6:04 pm : link
He said something like, "We knew they were gonna come over the middle on us, and that was fine by us because they were going to pay for it"

Andre Reed went over the middle on a crossing pattern in the first quarter and Greg Jackson leveled him. He hung on and made the catch, but he started getting alligator arms after that. I remember him saying after the game that he'd never been hit as hard in his entire career as the Giants hit him in that game.
RE: I remember Mark Collins, I think, talking after XXV about Buffalo WRs  
truebluelarry : 10/9/2019 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14620360 Greg from LI said:
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He said something like, "We knew they were gonna come over the middle on us, and that was fine by us because they were going to pay for it"

Andre Reed went over the middle on a crossing pattern in the first quarter and Greg Jackson leveled him. He hung on and made the catch, but he started getting alligator arms after that. I remember him saying after the game that he'd never been hit as hard in his entire career as the Giants hit him in that game.


There was a play in the second quarter of that game where Pepper Johnson and I think Myron Guyton both lit Reed up, and he had the jitters the rest of the night.
what's interesting  
Lines of Scrimmage : 10/9/2019 6:21 pm : link
is that the fear taken away has allowed for offenses to go over the middle much more.

Personally, I remember the 80's as much deeper patterns in general which had the effect of minimizing the short range blow ups. Usually the big hits came with the Tight Ends running the seams
RE: He played football  
LauderdaleMatty : 10/9/2019 6:44 pm : link
In comment 14620279 Sneakers O'toole said:
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Not whatever this crap today is.


This. The NFL cares more about offensive production for the fantasy football crowd than player safety. It’s a convenient way to silence critics who hate what the sport has become.
RE: RE: He played football  
truebluelarry : 10/9/2019 7:32 pm : link
In comment 14620402 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 14620279 Sneakers O'toole said:


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Not whatever this crap today is.



This. The NFL cares more about offensive production for the fantasy football crowd than player safety. It’s a convenient way to silence critics who hate what the sport has become.


I agree.
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christian : 10/9/2019 9:36 pm : link
The 80s and early 90s were before the kill shot era of the late 90s and early 2000s where guys stopped tackling and started launching with there shoulders and heads.

Football was actually safer during the time when LT played than the following generation because defenses tackled and hit the midsections as the game was designed.

The rules being instituted now don't disallow the football LT and that generation largely played. I don't remember the Giants be cheap shot, head shot, kill shot, artists.

You can still hit a guy. He's just got to have the ball and you can't blast his head.
the  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/9/2019 9:47 pm : link
one major change I'm glad they made was making low blocks illegal when the man was already engaged. But I don't know if many of these other changes have actually improved player safety.

Reducing the number of practices in training camp seems to have had the opposite effect. Again, not too long ago, there were two-a-day practices, with one practice being in full pads and including full-contact goal-line drills. Perhaps the body needs a certain amount of physical contact in order to be able to tolerate impact better?
RE: the  
RasputinPrime : 10/9/2019 10:00 pm : link
In comment 14620524 Eric from BBI said:
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one major change I'm glad they made was making low blocks illegal when the man was already engaged. But I don't know if many of these other changes have actually improved player safety.

Reducing the number of practices in training camp seems to have had the opposite effect. Again, not too long ago, there were two-a-day practices, with one practice being in full pads and including full-contact goal-line drills. Perhaps the body needs a certain amount of physical contact in order to be able to tolerate impact better?


Too bad it doesn't cut both ways. Had a heart to heart with James Harrison recently and that was his biggest parting pet peeve (unsurprisingly not his only).
Agree  
PaulN : 10/10/2019 11:27 am : link
About the poor football being played, you see Jenkins tackle attempts? But players from that era are paying. For me, I don't like this game, between the rule changes, instant replay, and the officiating, the product is horrible. I am shutting games off all the time now, most of my experience is thinking back when it was a great game, this is garbage football, the worst game the NFL ever put out. The teams today stink, it is bad football.
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