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Danny Kanell : 10/9/2019 5:24 pm
And still batting.

Wow!
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RE: I am at this game  
superspynyg : 10/9/2019 5:59 pm : link
In comment 14620350 superspynyg said:
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Itís just fucking pathetic!! Braves suck ass!


#freetocket!!
RE: Once again the Braves with an early exit  
DonQuixote : 10/9/2019 6:21 pm : link
In comment 14620309 Jay on the Island said:
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Snitker deserves all the blame for his terrible bullpen management and for using Foltynewicz over his best pitcher Soroka for some fucking reason.


How does this cause them to give up 12 runs early in the playoffs?
RE: I taped the game and was going to watch it later  
Danny Kanell : 10/9/2019 6:25 pm : link
In comment 14620348 Adam G in Big D said:
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Thanks for spoiling it asshole.


Sorry I spoiled the top of the first for you.
This is a real nail biter  
micky : 10/9/2019 6:32 pm : link
Great close game!
RE: RE: Once again the Braves with an early exit  
Jay on the Island : 10/9/2019 6:56 pm : link
In comment 14620378 DonQuixote said:
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In comment 14620309 Jay on the Island said:


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Snitker deserves all the blame for his terrible bullpen management and for using Foltynewicz over his best pitcher Soroka for some fucking reason.



How does this cause them to give up 12 runs early in the playoffs?

Seriously? They started Foltynewicz over Soroka
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arcarsenal : 10/9/2019 7:21 pm : link
Why does Schildt still have Flaherty in @ 100 pitches and a 12 run lead?
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/9/2019 7:22 pm : link
In comment 14620438 arcarsenal said:
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Why does Schildt still have Flaherty in @ 100 pitches and a 12 run lead?


Good ? arc.
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arcarsenal : 10/9/2019 7:26 pm : link
For a vet or an older guy, I'd get it... but Flaherty's 151 innings last year were his high watermark - he's only 23. He's up over 200 innings this year now with the postseason included and obviously they're going to want to continue to utilize him for as long as they keep going. He can very feasibly wind up ~75 innings over his workload from last year which would be a pretty large increase.

Might ultimately not matter... just feels like Schildt could have saved him some bullets by taking him out an inning or two earlier with a lead this big. But, I guess he didn't want to chance it.
Snitker should be cleaning out his desk tomorrow  
Ron from Ninerland : 10/9/2019 7:33 pm : link
This game makes me greatful for the job Girardi and Boone have done for the Yankees. When Severino got torched by the Twins a couple of years, ace or no ace, he was yanked after a 1/3 of an inning and Girardi went right to his short relievers starting with Green.

I don't know enough about Braves baseball to say who should have started this game, but what kind of an idiot leaves a pitcher in to get raked like that in an elimination game. The absolute latest he should have hooked was after that bases loaded walk, earlier if it was obvious he didn't have his stuff.

Idiotic move #2. Bottom of the 3rd, game is probably out of reach, but there still is a lot of baseball left. He lets his pitcher lead off the inning ? In 50 years of watching baseball I've never seen that in a blowout game! If he really, really, really needed to keep Tomlin in there, he should have done a double switch.
RE: RE: I taped the game and was going to watch it later  
Ned In Atlanta : 10/9/2019 7:34 pm : link
In comment 14620381 Danny Kanell said:
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In comment 14620348 Adam G in Big D said:


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Thanks for spoiling it asshole.



Sorry I spoiled the top of the first for you.


kind of a dick move by you. Could have done the thread without putting the score in the title. And no, I'm not a bitter Braves fan just happen to live in Atlanta
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MetsAreBack : 10/9/2019 7:38 pm : link
In comment 14620438 arcarsenal said:
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Why does Schildt still have Flaherty in @ 100 pitches and a 12 run lead?


Because heís not a dumbass like Mickey Callaway last month? Itís win or go home - you donít fuck with that

Anyway - Braves fan tears never stop tasting delicious.
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arcarsenal : 10/9/2019 7:45 pm : link
When was the last time a team overcame a 12 run deficit in a postseason game, though? Especially 4-5 innings through. 20 years ago?

They're going to need Flaherty in the NLCS (and if they're fortunate enough to get there, the WS) - he's their best starter. He's already quite far past the innings watermark he set last year.

It's one thing if we're talking about a 5-6 run lead... but 12? I think you're pretty safe at that point. The Braves WP at that point was probably miniscule. I would have gotten him out a bit sooner but that's me.
Hey at least they got to do the tomahawk chop  
mfsd : 10/9/2019 7:49 pm : link
when a solo HR cut the lead to 13-1...
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Jay on the Island : 10/9/2019 8:32 pm : link
In comment 14620457 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 14620438 arcarsenal said:


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Why does Schildt still have Flaherty in @ 100 pitches and a 12 run lead?



Because heís not a dumbass like Mickey Callaway last month? Itís win or go home - you donít fuck with that

Anyway - Braves fan tears never stop tasting delicious.

Great handle.
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bigbluehoya : 10/9/2019 8:38 pm : link
In comment 14620460 arcarsenal said:
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When was the last time a team overcame a 12 run deficit in a postseason game, though? Especially 4-5 innings through. 20 years ago?

They're going to need Flaherty in the NLCS (and if they're fortunate enough to get there, the WS) - he's their best starter. He's already quite far past the innings watermark he set last year.

It's one thing if we're talking about a 5-6 run lead... but 12? I think you're pretty safe at that point. The Braves WP at that point was probably miniscule. I would have gotten him out a bit sooner but that's me.


Iíd have taken him out after the second inning, or sooner. Not talking about. 5-6 run lead. Less than a 1% chance that bites you in the ass, which pales in comparison to what getting Flaherty for potentially games 1-4-7 does to your chances to win the ALCS, in probability terms.
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MetsAreBack : 10/9/2019 9:12 pm : link
In comment 14620490 bigbluehoya said:
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In comment 14620460 arcarsenal said:


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When was the last time a team overcame a 12 run deficit in a postseason game, though? Especially 4-5 innings through. 20 years ago?

They're going to need Flaherty in the NLCS (and if they're fortunate enough to get there, the WS) - he's their best starter. He's already quite far past the innings watermark he set last year.

It's one thing if we're talking about a 5-6 run lead... but 12? I think you're pretty safe at that point. The Braves WP at that point was probably miniscule. I would have gotten him out a bit sooner but that's me.



Iíd have taken him out after the second inning, or sooner. Not talking about. 5-6 run lead. Less than a 1% chance that bites you in the ass, which pales in comparison to what getting Flaherty for potentially games 1-4-7 does to your chances to win the ALCS, in probability terms.


Well if youíre argument is you want the kid for 3 games in a Nlcs (no clue how you get there as game 1 is in two days...) then innings limits and young arm have nothing to do with anything (which is what the original post/concern was about)

But hey maybe watching the Mets bullpen all year including blowing a 10-3 I think it was 9th inning lead in DC a month ago has made me appreciate the bill Bellicheck school of stepping on your opponents throat when it happens more so than it would have a year ago. Especially in an elimination game.
RE: RE: I am at this game  
superspynyg : 10/9/2019 9:20 pm : link
In comment 14620352 Jay on the Island said:
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Itís just fucking pathetic!! Braves suck ass!


Aren't you a Mets fan?


Nope Yankees fan!
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bigbluehoya : 10/9/2019 10:16 pm : link
In comment 14620502 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 14620460 arcarsenal said:


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When was the last time a team overcame a 12 run deficit in a postseason game, though? Especially 4-5 innings through. 20 years ago?

They're going to need Flaherty in the NLCS (and if they're fortunate enough to get there, the WS) - he's their best starter. He's already quite far past the innings watermark he set last year.

It's one thing if we're talking about a 5-6 run lead... but 12? I think you're pretty safe at that point. The Braves WP at that point was probably miniscule. I would have gotten him out a bit sooner but that's me.



Iíd have taken him out after the second inning, or sooner. Not talking about. 5-6 run lead. Less than a 1% chance that bites you in the ass, which pales in comparison to what getting Flaherty for potentially games 1-4-7 does to your chances to win the ALCS, in probability terms.





Well if youíre argument is you want the kid for 3 games in a Nlcs (no clue how you get there as game 1 is in two days...) then innings limits and young arm have nothing to do with anything (which is what the original post/concern was about)

But hey maybe watching the Mets bullpen all year including blowing a 10-3 I think it was 9th inning lead in DC a month ago has made me appreciate the bill Bellicheck school of stepping on your opponents throat when it happens more so than it would have a year ago. Especially in an elimination game.


Yeah, Iím not worried about innings limit on the NLCS, not my angle at all. If he looks the way heís looked and says he feel good, we can talk long-term workloads in the offseason. Heís 24 and threw 150+ in 2018. Heís young but not a total puppy.

If he was pulled at ~20 pitches tonight, Friday could easily have been in the conversation. Worst case, Games 2/5 with legitimate availability to play fireman in Game 7.
All the typos  
bigbluehoya : 10/9/2019 10:24 pm : link
All of them.
Kershaw serves up back to back jacks in the 8th  
Dave in PA : 10/9/2019 11:33 pm : link
Tied 3-3. Classic Kershaw playoff meltdown
That escalated quickly.  
bceagle05 : 10/9/2019 11:34 pm : link
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Kershaw comes in, ends  
section125 : 10/9/2019 11:35 pm : link
the 7th on three pitches. Then gives up back to back HRs on consecutive pitches to Rendon and Soto . Game tied 3-3, no outs in the 8th..Nats back in it.
Kershaw  
MetsAreBack : 10/9/2019 11:35 pm : link
Mr May
Kershaw being Kershaw  
5BowlsSoon : 10/9/2019 11:37 pm : link
In the playoffs.

Some guys should just take themselves out of the roster during the playoffs and save the coach and their fans from the frustration. For the Dodgers, that would be Kershaw, Seager, and Jansen. (Bellinger is close....)
Maeda has not thrown one  
section125 : 10/9/2019 11:42 pm : link
strike and struck out the side. Swinging at balls. Good sliders, but how about looking at two of them before swinging...
This smells like a Nationals victory  
5BowlsSoon : 10/9/2019 11:44 pm : link
Dodgers will find a way to lose......they always do in big playoff games.
Kershaw  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 10/9/2019 11:49 pm : link
coming up tiny once again.
Bases loaded, no out for the Nats in the 10th.  
bceagle05 : 10/10/2019 12:22 am : link
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Kendrick GRAND SLAM.  
bceagle05 : 10/10/2019 12:24 am : link
Joe Kelly spits it up. Kendrick's one of those guys who can roll out of bed in January and hit a rope somewhere.
RE: RE: RE: I taped the game and was going to watch it later  
giantsFC : 10/10/2019 12:24 am : link
In comment 14620454 Ned In Atlanta said:
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In comment 14620381 Danny Kanell said:


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In comment 14620348 Adam G in Big D said:


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Thanks for spoiling it asshole.



Sorry I spoiled the top of the first for you.



kind of a dick move by you. Could have done the thread without putting the score in the title. And no, I'm not a bitter Braves fan just happen to live in Atlanta


Is this real life?
Joe Kelly  
shyster : 10/10/2019 12:25 am : link
Couldn't happen to a better (worse) guy.
Good fuck joe kelly  
terz22 : 10/10/2019 12:25 am : link
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Oooof Kershaw churning out Romo-level choke jobs  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/10/2019 12:33 am : link
Maybe worse!
Juan Soto  
Dave in PA : 10/10/2019 12:50 am : link
Collecting some seriously big hits in his first postseason run.
Howie Kendrick  
GruningsOnTheHill : 10/10/2019 1:10 am : link
is still in the league? Who knew?

What a shocker, especially after the Dodgers were up 3-1 late. Iím not sad for Joe Kelly!
RE: Juan Soto  
Stan in LA : 10/10/2019 1:11 am : link
In comment 14620651 Dave in PA said:
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Collecting some seriously big hits in his first postseason run.

Not quite Gleyber, but not bad.
I don't give a shit how much Kenley Jansen has struggled this season,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/10/2019 3:06 am : link
you can't lose your season with Joe Kelly on the mound until it's absolutely unavoidable... like the 15th inning. What a disaster for the Dodgers. I wonder if Dave Roberts will be in trouble.
Quite a day for post-season upsets in the National League. Well,  
Ira : 10/10/2019 5:29 am : link
the Braves losing in post-season isn't much of an upset.
I know a lot of debate gets thrown around  
jcn56 : 10/10/2019 6:33 am : link
the word clutch, but man, Kershaw could have an entire chapter in that book. Had an early meeting so I turned it off just as he was going in, thinking to myself he has to have a short leash and he can't blow it, right?
Nationals have actually been a juggernaut since May  
dpinzow : 10/10/2019 6:58 am : link
They started the season 19-31 and everyone left them for dead. Since that point their record is 78-40 including playoffs. They had the second best run differential in the NL to LA and piled up a run differential of +189 the rest of the regular season after the 19-31 start. Extremely dangerous team
RE: Quite a day for post-season upsets in the National League. Well,  
mfsd : 10/10/2019 7:30 am : link
In comment 14620677 Ira said:
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the Braves losing in post-season isn't much of an upset.


Haha yup.

I zonked out right before the tenth...good old Howie Kendrick, the former Angel comes through.

Happy to see that jerk Joe Kelly take the loss. I like Dave Roberts, but man, think about the teams heís had the past 4 years, and just canít get over the hump. Heís going to get fried for his managing in this one.

Happy to think of that overpaid jerk Bryce Harper sitting home watching his former team finally get it done.

Happy the tri-state native Braves fans (aka poor mans Cowboy fans) see the Braves lose. Again.

Division series have turned out to be beauties so far, aside from Yanks sweep.
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arcarsenal : 10/10/2019 8:33 am : link
Ah, Kershaw... coming up small again.

I actually kind of found myself pulling for the Nats by the end of the series. Fuck Joe Kelly.
Feel badly for Kershaw  
ColHowPepper : 10/10/2019 9:17 am : link
stellar career, CY winner, but just a bust in recent post-season play. I liken him a bit to Eli: high character, very likable buy, lucrative contract in his waning years (too lucrative and not good value), struggling as he winds the career down.
RE: I don't give a shit how much Kenley Jansen has struggled this season,  
BillKo : 10/10/2019 9:20 am : link
In comment 14620666 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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you can't lose your season with Joe Kelly on the mound until it's absolutely unavoidable... like the 15th inning. What a disaster for the Dodgers. I wonder if Dave Roberts will be in trouble.


Agreed...and you could make a case that Kershaw should have been yanked to start the eighth. But I he probably wanted the lefty matchup with Soto. But did that backfire.

Feel bad for Kershaw, I really enjoy watching him pitch.
LOL Dodgers  
BlueHurricane : 10/10/2019 9:28 am : link
Fell asleep assuming they would win. Saw Kershaw warming in the pen. I guess I should have known better.
RE: Kendrick GRAND SLAM.  
Percy : 10/10/2019 9:36 am : link
In comment 14620641 bceagle05 said:
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Joe Kelly spits it up. Kendrick's one of those guys who can roll out of bed in January and hit a rope somewhere.

All I could think of watching Kershaw give this game up in the tenth for LA, besides being excited for the Nats, was how happy I was that the Yankees did not pick this guy up during the pitching hysteria earlier this season.
(Sorry!)  
Percy : 10/10/2019 9:41 am : link
(re Kershaw: meant giving up the back to back HRs in the eigth, not the tenth.)
RE: RE: RE: RE: I taped the game and was going to watch it later  
Percy : 10/10/2019 9:43 am : link
In comment 14620642 giantsFC said:
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In comment 14620381 Danny Kanell said:


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In comment 14620348 Adam G in Big D said:


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Thanks for spoiling it asshole.



Sorry I spoiled the top of the first for you.



kind of a dick move by you. Could have done the thread without putting the score in the title. And no, I'm not a bitter Braves fan just happen to live in Atlanta



Is this real life?

Right. Everyone else was to shut up about it until he watched his tape. Unreal.
Love, love, LOVE seeing Dave Roberts and Joe Kelly eat shit  
Greg from LI : 10/10/2019 9:45 am : link
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RE: Feel badly for Kershaw  
jestersdead : 10/10/2019 9:52 am : link
In comment 14620792 ColHowPepper said:
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stellar career, CY winner, but just a bust in recent post-season play. I liken him a bit to Eli: high character, very likable buy, lucrative contract in his waning years (too lucrative and not good value), struggling as he winds the career down.


For me, he's more Peyton than Eli. Extremely good during the regular season and struggles to get over the hump in post season play. Granted Peyton eventually won 2 but thats who I compare his regular season vs post season performance to
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