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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/10/2019 7:52 pm
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Giants get humiliated like no other team in the league  
BlueManFu : 10/10/2019 11:09 pm : link
Period
Arrogant ass wipe...  
Bluesbreaker : 10/10/2019 11:09 pm : link
look how tough i am ...
whatever...
Bill  
Banks : 10/10/2019 11:09 pm : link
must be playing someone with Michel on their fantasy team
That was just too easy!  
Simms11 : 10/10/2019 11:09 pm : link
D is gassed
He 100%  
BleedBlue : 10/10/2019 11:09 pm : link
Should have went for it but to blame him for entire game is wildly unfair...
Buck mentions the spread  
NoPeanutz : 10/10/2019 11:10 pm : link
Al Michaels would have been peeing himself in the booth tonight.
Shurmur  
WillVAB : 10/10/2019 11:10 pm : link
Is a shittier version of Norv Turner.
35 14.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/10/2019 11:10 pm : link
LOL. Funneling now.
Good thing we punted  
Go Terps : 10/10/2019 11:10 pm : link
These game management decisions must be coming from the data analytics guys we have in the booth. Oh wait...

This is why Jones shouldn't "give Shurmur one more year". The quality of the roster doesn't matter when the fucking coaching staff is incompetent.
FMIC  
ryanmkeane : 10/10/2019 11:10 pm : link
how can you watch this entire game and be confident that Shurmur is a good NFL coach?
RE: How can they watch tape of Bethea  
Rflairr : 10/10/2019 11:10 pm : link
In comment 14623389 Thunderstruck27 said:
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and think he is the best option at safety


They won’t even give Love a chance. He should be playing. They aren’t a playoff team
RE: Shurmur coached like  
Mr. Bungle : 10/10/2019 11:11 pm : link
In comment 14623381 bubba0825 said:
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He didn’t want to get embarrassed

"We're getting better. That's the goal." - Shurmur, at the podium tonight

Have the Giants ever had a head coach who was so proud of losing as Shurmur is?
RE: RE: The Giants..  
Blue Ninja : 10/10/2019 11:11 pm : link
In comment 14623384 Sean said:
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are among the league leaders in going for it on 4th down. You guys make it sound like he's trying to lose.

We were at our own 28. That's not a clear cut call.



4th & 2. Come on FMiC, you’re smarter than this. If the idea was to win the game, you 1000% go for it there.

Of course NE drives it right down the field.

AWFUL decision.


Especially with the defense gassed. Double the possession time or close to it.
I’ll never understand how Brady only throws  
bubba0825 : 10/10/2019 11:11 pm : link
To guys who are wide open yet a guy Jones can’t get a receiver one yard open
Aikman follows a proper noun, like "Brady," or.  
Waldo Jeffers : 10/10/2019 11:11 pm : link
ex. he, they, more times than he doesn't/
Maybe it's because  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/10/2019 11:12 pm : link
No coach could win this game with the talent wr have
RE: How can they watch tape of Bethea  
Simms11 : 10/10/2019 11:12 pm : link
In comment 14623389 Thunderstruck27 said:
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and think he is the best option at safety


I have Zero idea because I didn’t see him make one play, in fact he is always behind the play and is not sticking his nose in there either. How is a Safety always tailing the play?!
RE: I’ll never understand how Brady only throws  
jcn56 : 10/10/2019 11:12 pm : link
In comment 14623413 bubba0825 said:
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To guys who are wide open yet a guy Jones can’t get a receiver one yard open


He doesn't *only* throw, but he sure does get a lot of open looks, and for most of his career from WRs that wouldn't amount to jack shit elsewhere.

Of course, you know who to thank for that...
RE: He 100%  
jvm52106 : 10/10/2019 11:12 pm : link
In comment 14623399 BleedBlue said:
[quote] Should have went for it but to blame him for entire game is wildly unfair... [/quote

Mentality is huge and we play not to lose and our coach emotionally reacts too much when it comes to challenge or not challenge.. Pat Shurmur does NOT inspire.
RE: RE: Shurmur coached like  
Anakim : 10/10/2019 11:12 pm : link
In comment 14623410 Mr. Bungle said:
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In comment 14623381 bubba0825 said:


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He didn’t want to get embarrassed


"We're getting better. That's the goal." - Shurmur, at the podium tonight

Have the Giants ever had a head coach who was so proud of losing as Shurmur is?


"We need to look at the tape"
Now, if we're lucky we can close it  
CT Charlie : 10/10/2019 11:12 pm : link
to 14 -- with zero chance to win it whatsoever. Whereas 4 minutes ago, we had a small chance to tie or win it if only we could find a way to make 2 yards.
RE: The Giants..  
sb from NYT Forum : 10/10/2019 11:12 pm : link
In comment 14623364 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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are among the league leaders in going for it on 4th down. You guys make it sound like he's trying to lose.

We were at our own 28. That's not a clear cut call.


Please preserve this post. Speaks volumes.
What did you guys really  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/10/2019 11:13 pm : link
Expect ? The giants have 1/2 a team !!!

RE: FMIC  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/10/2019 11:13 pm : link
In comment 14623406 ryanmkeane said:
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how can you watch this entire game and be confident that Shurmur is a good NFL coach?


I'm not confident he's a good coach.

But outside of that punt decision, this isn't on him. The bitching about the playcalling is terrible.
RE: RE: He 100%  
Football Giants : 10/10/2019 11:13 pm : link
In comment 14623424 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 14623399 BleedBlue said:
[quote] Should have went for it but to blame him for entire game is wildly unfair... [/quote

Mentality is huge and we play not to lose and our coach emotionally reacts too much when it comes to challenge or not challenge.. Pat Shurmur does NOT inspire.


Nicely put +1
BB  
Bradshaw's Decal : 10/10/2019 11:13 pm : link
Took it a little easy tomorrow on offense... This game really was never in doubt guys...
RE: I’ll never understand how Brady only throws  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/10/2019 11:13 pm : link
In comment 14623413 bubba0825 said:
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To guys who are wide open yet a guy Jones can’t get a receiver one yard open


You don't understand much. Is it difficult to understand that we have no running game?
As I was saying, Troy follows proper nouns with pronouns almost all  
Waldo Jeffers : 10/10/2019 11:13 pm : link
the time.

Sorry, it bothers me.
RE: That timeout was  
santacruzom : 10/10/2019 11:14 pm : link
In comment 14622816 nygfaninorlando said:
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total amateur hour by Shurmur. If they get the hold on 3rd down, you’re still outside 2 minutes and you call the timeout then. Calling it before 3rd down was just plain dumb. Not the first time Shurmur has botched clock management.


Has Shurmur ever called a timeout that wasn't embarrassing?
Today  
Bradshaw's Decal : 10/10/2019 11:14 pm : link
That is
I want shurmur fired ASAP  
Giantfan21 : 10/10/2019 11:14 pm : link
Anybody making excuses for him is a clown. I wiuld love to hear someone defend him not going for it on 4th and 2 ? that is a fireable offense
RE: RE: I’ll never understand how Brady only throws  
bubba0825 : 10/10/2019 11:14 pm : link
In comment 14623437 Thunderstruck27 said:
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To guys who are wide open yet a guy Jones can’t get a receiver one yard open



You don't understand much. Is it difficult to understand that we have no running game?


His entire career Brady has guys wide open.
You have to go for that, no debate whatsoever  
Breeze_94 : 10/10/2019 11:14 pm : link
The fact that they drove the distance and scored only confirms it.

Picking up 2 yards is always going to be easier.

By punting it, you are hoping you can get a 3 and out and then score 2 TD's in 5 and a half minutes without any timeouts left.

If you don't get a 3 and out, it's now 2 TD's in under 3.5 minutes without any timeouts...

Not to mention, onside kicks are virtually impossible with the new kickoff rule.

Punting there was conceding the game.
Looks like Jones cut out the presnap clapping  
NoPeanutz : 10/10/2019 11:15 pm : link
the Vikings were all over it anticipating the snap last week.
Garbage time  
Nine-Tails : 10/10/2019 11:15 pm : link
Lets stack those numbers at least
They shouldn't have punted there  
AcesUp : 10/10/2019 11:15 pm : link
That was an awful decision. The sequence that led to the Hilliman fumble was just as bad. Team played hard and they were in it halfway through the 4th, so there's that but this was a horrible quarter by Shurmur.
I dont like how often Jones...  
EricJ : 10/10/2019 11:15 pm : link
has been running backwards. Would prefer to see the kid use his legs to pick up a few yards rather than retreat so often.
Shurmur  
TyreeHelmet : 10/10/2019 11:15 pm : link
If I was Mara I would think about firing this clown tomorrow. It is clearly evident he is a losing coach. Promote Betcher and reevaluate in the offseason.
RE: RE: I’ll never understand how Brady only throws  
PatersonPlank : 10/10/2019 11:15 pm : link
In comment 14623437 Thunderstruck27 said:
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To guys who are wide open yet a guy Jones can’t get a receiver one yard open



You don't understand much. Is it difficult to understand that we have no running game?


aand our WRs would be 4th and 5th receivers on other teams, they suck. Edelman is open every play. The only guy we have who seems to get separation is Slayton, but he is a raw rookie. Separaton is the job of a WR, they can all catch
It was a Giants team missing a number of starters  
jcn56 : 10/10/2019 11:15 pm : link
that wasn't very good to begin with, starting a rookie QB in his 4th game, against Belichick at home.

We got half a game of entertaining football out of it, probably a half more than I would have expected.

The bigger concern is that once again, another Giants season will likely be dead before October is out. Even without the injuries and rookie QB, the roster isn't very good and the coaching staff is no great shakes. Mediocrity would be the ceiling at this point.
Now they call defensive penalties on  
St. Jimmy : 10/10/2019 11:16 pm : link
the Patriots.
Brady has zero throwing TDs tonight  
Simms11 : 10/10/2019 11:16 pm : link
They got 2 easy TDs.....blocked punt, fumble recovery for TD.
RE: RE: RE: I’ll never understand how Brady only throws  
Thunderstruck27 : 10/10/2019 11:16 pm : link
In comment 14623446 bubba0825 said:
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In comment 14623413 bubba0825 said:


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To guys who are wide open yet a guy Jones can’t get a receiver one yard open



You don't understand much. Is it difficult to understand that we have no running game?



His entire career Brady has guys wide open.


You are comparing a rookie in his 4th game to the greatest QB of all time. He had better WRs than Golden Tate too
The speed  
Nine-Tails : 10/10/2019 11:16 pm : link
On the Vikings and patriots defenses is amazing. Don’t even let DJ to move out the pocket
This game is all about learning  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 10/10/2019 11:16 pm : link
Defense learned.
QB learned. Shorthanded. They were in the game into the end of the third.
the offensive line shouldnt be this tired  
NoPeanutz : 10/10/2019 11:16 pm : link
theyve only been on the field 20 minutes or so.
.  
Go Terps : 10/10/2019 11:16 pm : link
Two punts on 4th and 5 in NE territory, and then that obscenity to concede the game. But hey, "the Giants do analytics".

What a fucking joke. Pathetic.
RE: Not going for it there when you consider all the variables is a  
Dave in PA : 10/10/2019 11:17 pm : link
In comment 14623383 Zeke's Alibi said:
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fireable offense.
its a great way to let your team know you don’t fully believe in them to get 2 freakin yards and try to somehow win this hard fought game. Nah just punt it and go down quietly
OL  
Rflairr : 10/10/2019 11:17 pm : link
Disappointing tonight
Brutal game by Zeitler btw  
Blue Ninja : 10/10/2019 11:17 pm : link
will have to rewatch but he seems consistently beat to me.
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