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Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/10/2019 11:11 pm
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We lost! My liver lost!  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/10/2019 11:12 pm : link
YAY!
BBI clowns  
BleedBlue : 10/10/2019 11:13 pm : link
To blame shurmur.


This decimated is insane. The fact it was a game was amazing.

Show me a coach this decimated with a rookie QB on road vs #1 d unbeaten Pat's with the goat at QB and no defense of his own.

Show me one to win.
Type of game that makes me just want to curse a lot  
Oscar : 10/10/2019 11:15 pm : link
And smash something. Patriots are going to get fucking torched by someone soon and Iím going to enjoy it. They have played a handful of pop warner teams so far this season, Giants included.
We fought well. We just weren't talented enough.  
Anakim : 10/10/2019 11:17 pm : link
And yes, Shurmur should've gone for that on fourth down. That was a horrible play call.


And if I see Hilliman take another snap I'm going to vomit. Enough is enough. He's not an NFL RB.


And get Stupar off the fucking team. And keep Tanney OFF the team.
Good game and thatís what I hoped for  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/10/2019 11:17 pm : link
And anyone with a sane brain should have hoped for. Brighter days are ahead of us. Improvement week to week can be seen.
RE: BBI clowns  
jcn56 : 10/10/2019 11:18 pm : link
In comment 14623440 BleedBlue said:
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To blame shurmur.


This decimated is insane. The fact it was a game was amazing.

Show me a coach this decimated with a rookie QB on road vs #1 d unbeaten Pat's with the goat at QB and no defense of his own.

Show me one to win.


I don't think it's fair to blame this loss on Shurmur - but he made more mind boggling decisions tonight. Following the Parcells rule, he is what his record says he is - not a very good coach.
.  
jrapps : 10/10/2019 11:18 pm : link
Letís punt again.
2-4 record with a 10 day break before the next game...  
Fishmanjim57 : 10/10/2019 11:18 pm : link
at home against a weaker team then the last two opponents. Things could be worse.
I'm hoping that everyone gets healthy enough to play the Cards at home on the 20th.
If we get healthy,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 10/10/2019 11:19 pm : link
I think we're going to beat Zona & Detroit before Dallas on MNF on 11/4. They played hard tonight against the probable Super Bowl favorite.

Then again, I'm very drunk.
RE: If we get healthy,  
jcn56 : 10/10/2019 11:20 pm : link
In comment 14623491 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I think we're going to beat Zona & Detroit before Dallas on MNF on 11/4. They played hard tonight against the probable Super Bowl favorite.

Then again, I'm very drunk.


If Tom Brady weren't playing like crap for 75% of this game, they'd have lost by 4 touchdowns.

Save for Miami, I don't think anyone on the schedule is a gimme.
2-4  
Chris684 : 10/10/2019 11:20 pm : link
Mini BYE week

Arizona
@ Det
Dallas
@ Jets
BYE

Provided some offensive guys come back, I think we can get to 5-5 by the off week.
RE: If we get healthy,  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 10/10/2019 11:20 pm : link
In comment 14623491 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I think we're going to beat Zona & Detroit before Dallas on MNF on 11/4. They played hard tonight against the probable Super Bowl favorite.

Then again, I'm very drunk.


Not sure about Detroit
RE: BBI clowns  
jvm52106 : 10/10/2019 11:20 pm : link
In comment 14623440 BleedBlue said:
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To blame shurmur.


This decimated is insane. The fact it was a game was amazing.

Show me a coach this decimated with a rookie QB on road vs #1 d unbeaten Pat's with the goat at QB and no defense of his own.

Show me one to win.


You can find tons of fault with the coach while still acknowledging we were ovet matched. His decision making, shitty game management etc. doesn't change with more talent...
We are at the point with the officiating  
BlueHurricane : 10/10/2019 11:21 pm : link
That fans need to start boycotting these games.

The NFL will never make the changes that need to be made so long as us addicted fans keep turning in.
RE: We are at the point with the officiating  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/10/2019 11:22 pm : link
In comment 14623531 BlueHurricane said:
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That fans need to start boycotting these games.

The NFL will never make the changes that need to be made so long as us addicted fans keep turning in.


It's only pass interference if there's anal penetration.

BTW, Mike Pereira can just fuck right the fuck off. I've had enough of that asshole.
Shurmur didn't lose the game, and apparently he did a good job  
CT Charlie : 10/10/2019 11:23 pm : link
of helping the players believe they could win. But down 14 points with 8 minutes left, and facing a 4th and 2, he needed to HONOR THE TEAM'S EFFORT by going for it. If we don't make it, sure, we lose the game.

But giving the ball back to the Pats, with the wind, was a lame capitulation, undermining all the hard work that the team had done throughout the game.
Agree , that was illegal contact ,  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/10/2019 11:23 pm : link
Pass interference, and roughing the passer , we are lucky DJ has his knee
I didnít know replay raises the standard of PI  
Chris684 : 10/10/2019 11:24 pm : link
I thought PI was PI

What the fuck do I know!?
RE: RE: We are at the point with the officiating  
Nine-Tails : 10/10/2019 11:25 pm : link
In comment 14623539 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 14623531 BlueHurricane said:


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That fans need to start boycotting these games.

The NFL will never make the changes that need to be made so long as us addicted fans keep turning in.



It's only pass interference if there's anal penetration.

BTW, Mike Pereira can just fuck right the fuck off. I've had enough of that asshole.


Hahaha, that was good. Thanks for the laugh
When you're coached this terribly the roster doesn't matter  
Go Terps : 10/10/2019 11:25 pm : link
We can nail every decision this offseason and it won't matter in 2020 if Shurmur is the coach. Worst coach the Giants have had in my lifetime.
The Problem  
looie : 10/10/2019 11:26 pm : link
...isn't so much the schedule before the bye week, it's after. Bears, Packers, Eagles. We're not winning any of those.
....  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 10/10/2019 11:27 pm : link
Knew they were going to lose this one

But seeing the LT and RG continually beat when we need them to be part of the long term solution is depressing
Janoris Jenkins  
Bradshaw's Decal : 10/10/2019 11:27 pm : link
Has to go... At this point he adds nothing, he may even be a negative... Poor coverage and a lack of interest in tackleing... He should be embarrassed.
RE: When you're coached this terribly the roster doesn't matter  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 10/10/2019 11:27 pm : link
In comment 14623563 Go Terps said:
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We can nail every decision this offseason and it won't matter in 2020 if Shurmur is the coach. Worst coach the Giants have had in my lifetime.


What are you saying... you're no fan of 3rd and long screens to Jon fucking Hilliman and the fullback?
RE: When you're coached this terribly the roster doesn't matter  
section125 : 10/10/2019 11:27 pm : link
In comment 14623563 Go Terps said:
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We can nail every decision this offseason and it won't matter in 2020 if Shurmur is the coach. Worst coach the Giants have had in my lifetime.


Post of the day.....

Yeah, he threw three INTs, fumbled, and then had several drops.
RE: If we get healthy,  
Simms11 : 10/10/2019 11:27 pm : link
In comment 14623491 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I think we're going to beat Zona & Detroit before Dallas on MNF on 11/4. They played hard tonight against the probable Super Bowl favorite.

Then again, I'm very drunk.


I donít think this D is going to stop Detroit, in Detroit. I donít think thatís an easy game at all. Cards may not be that easy either. Murray has shown to be the real deal and the way this secondary gives up big plays!
RE: When you're coached this terribly the roster doesn't matter  
speedywheels : 10/10/2019 11:28 pm : link
In comment 14623563 Go Terps said:
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We can nail every decision this offseason and it won't matter in 2020 if Shurmur is the coach. Worst coach the Giants have had in my lifetime.


Were you not alive when Handley was coach?
Figured  
McNally's_Nuts : 10/10/2019 11:28 pm : link
they would lose and didnít think they would be able to keep it that close.

Hard to play QB when every single pass has to be perfect.
can't believe the takeaway  
bluepepper : 10/10/2019 11:29 pm : link
here is Shurmur sucks. We went into NE without our 3 top offensive playmakers and gave them a game for 3 quarters. Only reason it didn't go down to the wire is our 3rd string RB coughed up one TD and our 3rd string LB got blocked into the punter for another TD.
RE: When you're coached this terribly the roster doesn't matter  
McNally's_Nuts : 10/10/2019 11:30 pm : link
In comment 14623563 Go Terps said:
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We can nail every decision this offseason and it won't matter in 2020 if Shurmur is the coach. Worst coach the Giants have had in my lifetime.


Lol
RE: RE: When you're coached this terribly the roster doesn't matter  
jcn56 : 10/10/2019 11:30 pm : link
In comment 14623579 section125 said:
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In comment 14623563 Go Terps said:


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We can nail every decision this offseason and it won't matter in 2020 if Shurmur is the coach. Worst coach the Giants have had in my lifetime.



Post of the day.....

Yeah, he threw three INTs, fumbled, and then had several drops.


No, he didn't - but the team he coaches did. And it has generally been bad since he got here, with no improvement to show for it.
Kill Shurmer All You Want  
looie : 10/10/2019 11:30 pm : link
He obviously got his team to play hard tonight in a near impossible situation. The problem isn't the coach. It's the talent level on the field. This team will win 6 games this year, maybe 7 if they're lucky. He just doesn't have enough good players.
I feel this dark ages era for Giants  
giantsFC : 10/10/2019 11:30 pm : link
Isnít going anywhere soon. Daniel Jones def doesnít have that Eli Manning rookie magic feel. At least yet.

How do you have this lack of RB, WR and LB talent/depth in 2019?

RE: Janoris Jenkins  
section125 : 10/10/2019 11:30 pm : link
In comment 14623576 Bradshaw's Decal said:
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Has to go... At this point he adds nothing, he may even be a negative... Poor coverage and a lack of interest in tackling... He should be embarrassed.


Agree with that. Made one INT, then disappeared from the game except when committing penalties that allow Patriot drives to continue.
RE: RE: When you're coached this terribly the roster doesn't matter  
Go Terps : 10/10/2019 11:30 pm : link
In comment 14623581 speedywheels said:
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In comment 14623563 Go Terps said:


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We can nail every decision this offseason and it won't matter in 2020 if Shurmur is the coach. Worst coach the Giants have had in my lifetime.



Were you not alive when Handley was coach?


I was, and Shurmur's worse.
Shurmur's punt on 4th & 2 was mind-boggling  
NYerInMA : 10/10/2019 11:30 pm : link
Aside from that, the Giants were lucky to keep it as close as they did, for as long as they did. There is an enormous talent gap between these two teams, especially when the injuries are factored in. Hopefully most of those guys will be back for the next game vs. the Cardinals, I think that's a much more winnable game than tonight was.
RE: RE: When you're coached this terribly the roster doesn't matter  
jvm52106 : 10/10/2019 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14623581 speedywheels said:
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In comment 14623563 Go Terps said:


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Handley was a better coach forced into a tough situation after Parcells late departure.


We can nail every decision this offseason and it won't matter in 2020 if Shurmur is the coach. Worst coach the Giants have had in my lifetime.



Were you not alive when Handley was coach?
The run defense played well  
George from PA : 10/10/2019 11:31 pm : link
And at times so did the pass defense.

This would have been a game......if we had one of our 2 rbs.
RE: can't believe the takeaway  
BleedBlue : 10/10/2019 11:31 pm : link
In comment 14623588 bluepepper said:
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here is Shurmur sucks. We went into NE without our 3 top offensive playmakers and gave them a game for 3 quarters. Only reason it didn't go down to the wire is our 3rd string RB coughed up one TD and our 3rd string LB got blocked into the punter for another TD.



+100000

BBi is becoming a joke with these sky is falling hot takes.


I wasn't even going to watch this game that's how bad I thought the assault was going to be. Any team loses tonight. NO coach wins this game...the Giants just don't have the offensive depth to handle that amount of injuries with a rookie QB in 4th game
RE: RE: If we get healthy,  
Bluesbreaker : 10/10/2019 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14623513 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14623491 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:


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I think we're going to beat Zona & Detroit before Dallas on MNF on 11/4. They played hard tonight against the probable Super Bowl favorite.

Then again, I'm very drunk.



If Tom Brady weren't playing like crap for 75% of this game, they'd have lost by 4 touchdowns.

Save for Miami, I don't think anyone on the schedule is a gimme.


Thanks Troy give Buck a hug while your at it ...
RE: RE: When you're coached this terribly the roster doesn't matter  
giantsFC : 10/10/2019 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14623581 speedywheels said:
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In comment 14623563 Go Terps said:


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We can nail every decision this offseason and it won't matter in 2020 if Shurmur is the coach. Worst coach the Giants have had in my lifetime.



Were you not alive when Handley was coach?


Or for McAgoof for that matter?
RE: RE: RE: When you're coached this terribly the roster doesn't matter  
BleedBlue : 10/10/2019 11:33 pm : link
In comment 14623601 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14623563 Go Terps said:


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We can nail every decision this offseason and it won't matter in 2020 if Shurmur is the coach. Worst coach the Giants have had in my lifetime.



Were you not alive when Handley was coach?



I was, and Shurmur's worse.




Yea no he isn't.....


Blaming shurmur is like fat people blaming spoons. They don't help you lose weight but they aren't the reason you are fat.

Shurmur didn't help but he certainly wasn't even close to our problem to ight.


Any coach loses this game
RE: RE: can't believe the takeaway  
jcn56 : 10/10/2019 11:33 pm : link
In comment 14623611 BleedBlue said:
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In comment 14623588 bluepepper said:


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here is Shurmur sucks. We went into NE without our 3 top offensive playmakers and gave them a game for 3 quarters. Only reason it didn't go down to the wire is our 3rd string RB coughed up one TD and our 3rd string LB got blocked into the punter for another TD.




+100000

BBi is becoming a joke with these sky is falling hot takes.


I wasn't even going to watch this game that's how bad I thought the assault was going to be. Any team loses tonight. NO coach wins this game...the Giants just don't have the offensive depth to handle that amount of injuries with a rookie QB in 4th game


Yeah - the problem that BBI has with Shurmur in this game isn't some of his questionable decisions and playcalls - it's the fact that he didn't win the game, shorthanded on the road in NE.

Maybe instead of reveling in how much you disagree with the 'hot takes' - you should try reading a few of those posts you keep bitching about.
No gimme's  
Bradshaw's Decal : 10/10/2019 11:33 pm : link
For this squad... We beat 2 of the 3 teams were better than. Maybe a 6 win season tops... I wish i could be more optimistic but we have tons of holes and a rookie Qb.
Hilliman is not an NFL back  
Justlurking : 10/10/2019 11:33 pm : link
Must be released. Sign a real back.
RE: I feel this dark ages era for Giants  
jvm52106 : 10/10/2019 11:33 pm : link
In comment 14623599 giantsFC said:
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Isnít going anywhere soon. Daniel Jones def doesnít have that Eli Manning rookie magic feel. At least yet.

How do you have this lack of RB, WR and LB talent/depth in 2019?


What??? Eli fucking sucked his rookie year until a 2 min drive in the most pointless game of the season, week 17 between two teams going nowhere...
RE: I feel this dark ages era for Giants  
Nine-Tails : 10/10/2019 11:33 pm : link
In comment 14623599 giantsFC said:
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Isnít going anywhere soon. Daniel Jones def doesnít have that Eli Manning rookie magic feel. At least yet.

How do you have this lack of RB, WR and LB talent/depth in 2019?


So Tampa game wasnít magic for you. Jones in his first four games > Manningís first four
I knew we were outmatched, but...  
Pete in CO : 10/10/2019 11:33 pm : link
...for a while, we were in this.
1.) impossible to win an NFL game w 4+ TOs
2.) PI in NFL has become ridiculous. Way too inconsistent.
3.) Teams are going to flush DJ out of pocket. He makes too many errors when he canít set his feet.
...enjoy the bye week, BBI.
Jones really needs to make better decisions with the ball  
Geomon : 10/10/2019 11:33 pm : link
Yeah, rookie, yeah yeah. These past 2 games have been really bad for him and even during the 2 wins, he made some poor decisions.
3 in A row  
DavidinBMNY : 10/10/2019 11:33 pm : link
Jones is going to win. He made it through 2 toop defenses. He is going to ball out. His weapons come back sans Shep as well.

3 in a row
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