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nygfaninorlando : 10/10/2019 11:21 pm
Hilliman, Stupar and Haley in a Giants uniform? They just aren’t NFL players and no reason for any of them to be on the team next week.

And by the way Shurmur needs to go. Just a horrible head coach. No situational awareness, horrible game management week after week, non stop complaining to the refs and plays not to lose. Punting on 4th and 2 from the 40 yard line with 7 minutes left. WTF?
Haley? Haley's fine. He's a fourth CB.  
Anakim : 10/10/2019 11:21 pm : link
Hilliman and Stupar need to go. Get them the fuck off of the 53.
Stupar getting thrown around like a bitch...  
Tesla : 10/10/2019 11:23 pm : link
and getting knocked into that punt was a HUGE play in this game. A much different game if we don't give up 7 on that play.

Nice job by DG keeping him around.
If Love, Ballentine and  
nygfaninorlando : 10/10/2019 11:23 pm : link
Beal can’t push Haley off the field, we’re in trouble.
Haley  
Trainmaster : 10/10/2019 11:23 pm : link
Stinks.
Hilliman..  
EricJ : 10/10/2019 11:23 pm : link
Rutgers... what did you expect?
And Hilliman handing the Pats a TD...  
Tesla : 10/10/2019 11:24 pm : link
makes it 14 points the DG's incompetence handed the Pats tonight.

Fucking brilliant idea to go into the season with only 2 RB's on the roster. Brilliant.
Hillman should be gone  
Breeze_94 : 10/10/2019 11:26 pm : link
there has to be a better RB out there. He looks like he is running in cement, has no vision, and he also can't hold onto the ball.

Stupar sucks- as soon as Davis is back he should be cut. The fact that he even proved to be worthless on ST's tonight adds to that.

Haley is what he is. A guy who should not be on the field as basically a starter (at the nickel) but he's decent if he is a depth guy. Hes a solid tackler and plays tough against the run.
RE: And Hilliman handing the Pats a TD...  
Anakim : 10/10/2019 11:27 pm : link
In comment 14623557 Tesla said:
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makes it 14 points the DG's incompetence handed the Pats tonight.

Fucking brilliant idea to go into the season with only 2 RB's on the roster. Brilliant.


We went into the season with three RBs. We cut Perkins after Week 1
Wow  
Daniel in Kentucky : 10/10/2019 11:30 pm : link
Speechless
RE: RE: And Hilliman handing the Pats a TD...  
Johnny5 : 10/10/2019 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14623573 Anakim said:
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In comment 14623557 Tesla said:


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makes it 14 points the DG's incompetence handed the Pats tonight.

Fucking brilliant idea to go into the season with only 2 RB's on the roster. Brilliant.



We went into the season with three RBs. We cut Perkins after Week 1

Yep cut a RB and kept fucking Tanney. Unreal.
Haley couldn't cover a shrub  
Greg from LI : 10/10/2019 11:32 pm : link
But I give him credit for at least being the only reliable tackler on the defense.
Actually we cut Perkins after week 2  
Tesla : 10/10/2019 11:32 pm : link
but the point remains. The idea that you'd get through the season without an injury to your two RB's in insanely stupid. And if Hilliman was their backup plan it shows they had no plan at all. He's not even close to an NFL player.
Empty roster  
broadbandz : 10/10/2019 11:36 pm : link
spot instead of stupar would have saved us 7 tonight,
Perkins...  
Bradshaw's Decal : 10/10/2019 11:36 pm : link
What's with the Perkins fascination... He couldn't be trusted with the ball... he sucks sick! So glad I don't have to look at his apathetic face...
Hiilliman  
DavidinBMNY : 10/10/2019 11:36 pm : link
Yes.

They can easily sign a more capable rb.


Haley is a completely different player moving forward. He is great and vstopping the run.

Stupar is the placeholder for Buchannan
What are you talking about??  
Football Giants : 10/10/2019 11:38 pm : link
They will get massive 5 year contracts tomorrow
We have no money  
Bradshaw's Decal : 10/10/2019 11:38 pm : link
this season for a deeper bench... Next year will be better...
Shurmur blame tonight!?!?!!?  
V.I.G. : 10/10/2019 11:39 pm : link
No one gave these guys a chance yet
they played their hearts out
without their four best offensive weapons
With zeitler injured and/or terrible
Latimer coming out of breaks like he’s in sand
A practice squads RBS losing the ball
And the refs fucking us all game

Are you fucking kidding me???
With all the dead money we are sucking  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 10/10/2019 11:42 pm : link
In this season undrafted FA shit is what fills the bottom of the roster !
Not Haley  
5BowlsSoon : 10/10/2019 11:44 pm : link
Hopefully the other two.
I put the odds of Shurmur being a successful HC in this league  
BestFeature : 10/10/2019 11:46 pm : link
somewhere around where our odds were of winning today. The guy just makes mistakes that even a football idiot like I wouldn't make. I have less than zero confidence in him. And I really was drinking his Kool-Aid when we hired him.
RE: If Love, Ballentine and  
santacruzom : 10/10/2019 11:46 pm : link
In comment 14623545 nygfaninorlando said:
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Beal can’t push Haley off the field, we’re in trouble.


Haley may be a liability in coverage but at least players don't run right through him with regularity.
RE: With all the dead money we are sucking  
Geomon : 10/10/2019 11:47 pm : link
In comment 14623702 Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) said:
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In this season undrafted FA shit is what fills the bottom of the roster !

Nailed it. This is the best it's gonna get guys.
Stupar is a heads up player  
Vanzetti : 10/10/2019 11:56 pm : link
Showed it tonight with that blocked punt.

They cut Stupar earlier this year. They brought  
NBGblue : 10/11/2019 12:15 am : link
him back only because of all the injuries to the LBs.
Shurmur must go  
NikkiMac : 10/11/2019 12:34 am : link
Who’s going to fly the airplane over Met Life
This loss is on DG  
Spider56 : 10/11/2019 1:01 am : link
It’s the GMs job to find players ... no excuses ... Hilliman and Stupar do not belong in the league and arguably, their mistakes were the difference.
I DO NOT want to see anymore HALEY  
Festina Lente : 10/11/2019 1:36 am : link
He has been consistently poor in every game this season. I think it is time to end this. Just let the young CB's play slot and develop. Couldn't be much worse tbh
Judge in context  
Coopcomic : 10/11/2019 1:38 am : link
Shurmur and DG can't be judged yet, except there should be improvement/effort. There is. The context was horrible drafting by Reese for a decade. It's not a fucking Etch-a-Sketch. This is year 2. Personally, I like what I see. DG's drafts seem very solid, with potential for spectacular - particularly if Carter develops. Free agents are a constricted class, market driven. Golden is a nice score thus far. Next year with another draft, a lot of money, that's when a substantial jump should be demanded and expected.
Neither running back could get on the field?  
Reese's Pieces : 10/11/2019 7:05 am : link
I remember when Emmitt Smith beat us with one hand tied beyond his back. They saving them to be healthy for all the meaningless games to come before small local viewership? Kid had no chance with no viable running game and he coughs up a touchdown as well.
RE: RE: With all the dead money we are sucking  
Gatorade Dunk : 10/11/2019 8:38 am : link
In comment 14623749 Geomon said:
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In comment 14623702 Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) said:


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In this season undrafted FA shit is what fills the bottom of the roster !


Nailed it. This is the best it's gonna get guys.

Ok, and more than half of the dead money is due to Gettleman contracts. Why should he get a pass on the bottom of the roster when he contributed to his own constraints?
Stupar  
Rong5611 : 10/11/2019 8:40 am : link
Needs to go. I think the other guys stay.
RE: They cut Stupar earlier this year. They brought  
Gatorade Dunk : 10/11/2019 8:40 am : link
In comment 14623857 NBGblue said:
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him back only because of all the injuries to the LBs.

In simplest terms, that's accurate. But this regime's fascination with familiarity is partly why Stupar was brought back rather than bringing in someone else instead. He's genuinely bad enough that a revolving door or replacements might have been better because there'd be the chance that we might stumble onto an upgrade even by accident. By sticking with Stupar, there was no upside at all.
Haley had a few nice tackles last night  
Jay on the Island : 10/11/2019 9:24 am : link
I still think he is a solid #4-5 CB but they need an upgrade there.

Hilliman should be released this morning. Not only does he offer nothing as a runner he also has turned the ball over twice in 3 games.
Add Bethea to that List.  
LTIsTheGreatest : 10/11/2019 11:06 am : link
He looks awful, washed up
Heh  
Johnny5 : 10/14/2019 1:11 pm : link
As it turns out, this seems to be a somewhat prophetic OP. lol
Bat Signal  
section125 : 10/14/2019 1:14 pm : link
has been switched on!
Haley is arguably the worst cover corner seeing 'real minutes'...  
Torrag : 10/14/2019 2:02 pm : link
in the entire NFL. He occasionally makes a tackle that he should. As often as not he sucks at that as well. Terrible player for this passing era. He routinely trails his man in coverage by two yards. That's his modus operandi.

How anyone thinks he should be on the field with what we've seen so far this season baffles me. Especially when there is young talent begging to gain experience on the bench watching him go up in flames weekly. The worst thing that could have happened to this team right now is for Dallas and Philly to implode. It's giving this staff excuses to keep playing the 'experienced guys' no matter how bad they are. And the players named in the OP are the suck.
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