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Why Not Just Get Rid of PI Review??

FatMan in Charlotte : 10/10/2019 11:23 pm
The refs fucked up in the Saints game, but if you are going to then put a knee-jerk rule in and then not use it to enforce penalties, then why not get rid of it?

Keep in mind, in week 2, the Giants were called for a DPI after review.

The refs took 10 seconds to look at the interference on Tate (and the hold the preceded it) and stated the no-call stood.

This is a rule that should never have been implemented in the first place, and now that it is in place is not accomplishing anything.

Why not just end the charade now?
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Since the receiver was grabbed as he made his cut - # 1  
GiantsUA : 10/11/2019 7:13 am : link
and # 2 the receiver's arm was pinned when he was trying to raise it to catch the ball - it's a double negative -

# 1 cancels out # 2 = no penalty
The NFL SUCKS  
ZogZerg : 10/11/2019 7:28 am : link
Do they even over turn the PI that we had in the Saints game in the playoffs?

Here's an interesting..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/11/2019 8:01 am : link
article linked below.

Here's an excerpt:
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The way pass interference challenges have been called this season looks like the league’s officials (and Riveron specifically) are thumbing their noses at coaches. To the New Orleans Saints’ Sean Payton, who championed the pass interference challenge in the offseason. To the Dallas Cowboys’ Jason Garrett, who delivered an impassioned speech to help drive it though. And also to guys like the Kansas City Chiefs’ Andy Reid and Patriots’ Bill Belichick, who urged coaches to work hard on getting some kind of rules resolution to the problem of blown calls.

After all that work, after the debacle in the NFC title game that arguably cost the New Orleans Saints a Super Bowl berth, after everything that could have gone wrong with these challenges, it’s the least expected breakdown that’s causing a ruckus: The NFL’s officials aren’t just getting things wrong with pass interference — it looks like they’re upholding the wrong call out of sheer stubbornness after being challenged.

The NFL’s coaches raised hell in the offseason to get an opportunity to correct mistakes on the field and now they’re being blunted by some of the same officials they were trying to overcome. To the point that in the first month of the season, only seven reversals were made in 31 pass interference challenges. A 22.6 percent reversal rate through four games wouldn’t be so bad — except that in bouts of ridiculously poor judgement, some officiating crews are doing things like what we saw Thursday night between the Patriots and Giants.

Simply put, they’re ignoring the right call and sending a message to coaches that even obvious penalties aren’t going to be called right. Why? Because it’s a judgement call.

That’s the get-out-of-jail-free card for officials in this fiasco: Not only is the initial pass interference call (or non-pass interference) based on an official’s judgment — the replay is, too. That means officials can get something wrong in real time and then get it wrong again via instant replay, merely because they’re given the latitude to do it.

How’s that for an effective rule?

Ignoring Interference? - ( New Window )
I..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/11/2019 8:11 am : link
should have quoted this too. Pretty interesting take:

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If the NFL thought it had a mess on its hands last January, then it should be hitting a panic button right now. It’s one thing to get something wrong and accidentally change the outcome of history. If something like Thursday night’s mistake repeats itself in a game that matters — or heaven forbid, in the postseason — the league will have given the ultimate unchecked freedom to officials.

The ability to acquit themselves of their own mistakes simply because they can.
They have been protecting themselves  
section125 : 10/11/2019 8:39 am : link
and thumbing their noses at the NFL. The ultimate child temper tantrum.
I said it last week, the head of officials need to be brought into the Commissioner's office and read the riot act....or just get rid of the rule and continue with bad calls without embarrassing themselves further by replaying them and showing it was PI.
They said only 7 of 39...  
BillKo : 10/11/2019 9:06 am : link
..have been overturned.

I'd like to see someone put together a video of what was considered PI, and at what was the game situation.

For example, had that play on Tate been in the final minute of a 23-22 game, would replay treat it differently?

From what I see, you are only getting a call if you literally drag someone down..........literally.
BillKo..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/11/2019 9:09 am : link
ironically, one of the 7 went against us. And it wasn't nearly as egregious as the one last night.

So even when the refs thumb their nose, we still get fucked!!
Fatman you need to YouTube Pat McAfee on Al Riveron  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/11/2019 9:11 am : link
Guy gives a ton of unique insight into the league and this is spot on. Fuck Al Riveron.
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Goodell needs to stand up to the refs.  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/11/2019 9:12 am : link
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RE: BillKo..  
BillKo : 10/11/2019 9:12 am : link
In comment 14624165 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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ironically, one of the 7 went against us. And it wasn't nearly as egregious as the one last night.

So even when the refs thumb their nose, we still get fucked!!


FMIC - Don't recall that, which game?
Zeke..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/11/2019 9:13 am : link
it is like the NFL gives a big fuck you to everyone in who they have as the head of officials.

Riveron has always been terrible. Blandino?? They can't even get out of their own way when assigning leaders.
BillKo..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/11/2019 9:15 am : link
I think it was the Buffalo game. Challenge came in and the ref stated that the DB grabbed the reciever's arm prior to the ball arriving. It wqas a 3rd down stop too.

Can't remember if it was Jenkins, but I think it was.
Riveron is so so fucking awful I wish we had Blandino back!  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/11/2019 9:16 am : link
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Britt in VA : 10/11/2019 9:20 am : link
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Charles Robinson
@CharlesRobinson
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9h
#NFL officials have gone rogue. 100-percent. This wasn’t called on the field and then wasn’t changed after it was flagged by the #Giants. So they ruled TWICE that this wasn’t defensive pass interference. Which is just blatantly wrong and a purposeful refusal to change the call.


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Britt in VA : 10/11/2019 9:20 am : link
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Charles Robinson
@CharlesRobinson
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#NFL officials appear to be willfully wrecking the league’s new pass interference challenge rule. That’s the only logical conclusion when you see Al Riveron uphold a blatantly and demonstrably incorrect non-call the way he did on Thursday night football.
It meant nothing in the grand scheme of the game  
Greg from LI : 10/11/2019 9:43 am : link
But I just get angrier about that garbage. The NFL should start firing officials for incompetence. I want to see Riveron have to face the media and explain why that challenge shouldn't result in a penalty.
The lack of accountability..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/11/2019 10:31 am : link
has been an issue for years. Scott Green, the guy who blew the call in the Niners WC game, was promoted to head referee the following year.

Phil Luckett who famously botched a coin toss and was terrible at his job outside of that, continued to get playoff games.

Jerome Boger has reffed a Super Bowl.

If there is any accountability for poor reffing, it surely doesn't seem like it.
Non Fumble Call on the Edelman Play Also SHould Have Been Overturned  
LTIsTheGreatest : 10/11/2019 11:03 am : link
Looked like Edelman had control of that ball for at least a couple of seconds, but you are not gonna get those calls in the Patriots building. Bellichick has the officials in his pocket in his home stadium
RE: The lack of accountability..  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/11/2019 11:06 am : link
In comment 14624441 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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has been an issue for years. Scott Green, the guy who blew the call in the Niners WC game, was promoted to head referee the following year.

Phil Luckett who famously botched a coin toss and was terrible at his job outside of that, continued to get playoff games.

Jerome Boger has reffed a Super Bowl.

If there is any accountability for poor reffing, it surely doesn't seem like it.


Which is ridiculous considering the league acts like it is a privilege and honor to work for the NFL. Not for the refs apparently.
Seems like a lot of  
section125 : 10/11/2019 11:11 am : link
reporters are questioning that non-call.
Mike Florio just put out that someone high up told Riveron  
Zeke's Alibi : 10/11/2019 11:19 am : link
to raise the bar after week 1. So I guess this is coming from Goddell, who has been deafeningly silent, and it honestly hasn't gotten much media attention with the tv contracts coming up.
He should have put a stop to it before it came out of committee  
Sneakers O'toole : 10/11/2019 2:22 pm : link
It's not like we couldn't see this trainwreck coming.
Sneakers..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 10/11/2019 2:40 pm : link
when I heard it was proposed I thought it was a joke.

I think if you were to call up the thread on BBI about it, it is one of the few subjects people were united on.

I don't know who really thought this would be a good idea. Sean Payton and Jason Garrett??
Yep  
Sneakers O'toole : 10/11/2019 2:42 pm : link
I think most people here saw it coming.
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