Just like the rest of the games this year. I feel no type of way after last night because it is expected
Rookie QB vs HOF coach
Non NFL starting running backs
Average Oline and below average oline in run game
One receiver who can get open and he is just a rookie
bunch of small possession receivers when healthy but last night just your typical back ups with no speed and size
Awful head coach
Jones leads the league in tight window throws which tells you that nobody can get a step besides Slayton
The 3 picks last night the only one that was a rookie mistake was the one that the corner jumped and that is expected and Jones will learn
We are at week 7 now and I will tell you that by week 13 or 14 the young players on this team who will be here long term will be much improved and the team will beat a good team later this year that will propel their confidence
Gettleman has a lot of work to do now that he has his qb and it starts with a LT and Linebackers as well as a stud corner
But brighter days ahead for the Giants that you can count on
Defense played their hearts out
Only counts as 1 loss
Defense played their hearts out
Only counts as 1 loss
In what planet did the O-line play well?
Defense played their hearts out
Only counts as 1 loss
An excellent all-round play by the team. Great game
You say the team will be a good one at years end but the Head Coach stinks. So what is the solution? Go into next year with a poor Head Coach?
That game was anything but. I found myself invested Emotionally in the game until the Hillman fumble, the games are fun again.
Undermanned team with the ball, one score down, nine minutes left. Defense showed some fight, I m encouraged.
Looking ahead to the bye, 5-5 4-6 are possibilities. If the OP is correct, and they beat a quality team, we have some meaningful games down the stretch
I really think much of the negativity here is spawned by the contentiousness among posters regarding different POV,
It seems there is sometimes more interest in getting to say, “I told you so” then actually rooting for the team. It makes objective dialogue impossible, and the game threads entertaining, but comical.
Me might have won the game if we had our full offense out there.
That game was anything but. I found myself invested Emotionally in the game until the Hillman fumble, the games are fun again.
Undermanned team with the ball, one score down, nine minutes left. Defense showed some fight, I m encouraged.
Looking ahead to the bye, 5-5 4-6 are possibilities. If the OP is correct, and they beat a quality team, we have some meaningful games down the stretch
I really think much of the negativity here is spawned by the contentiousness among posters regarding different POV,
It seems there is sometimes more interest in getting to say, “I told you so” then actually rooting for the team. It makes objective dialogue impossible, and the game threads entertaining, but comical.
People vent. If you go by game threads there would be about three players worthy enough going forward.
They do have issue. I see some very good and difficult building blocks and not every player is going to be a star.
I do believe it is reasonable to expect wins in the division this year and this is more critical than just wins. This tide has to turn to move forward in division games imo.
Shurmur is still a big question to me. His winning percentage is awful and he needs to win. Now that the Eli stuff is over with the next target is going to be him with the media. How soon before the players then start to agree when that happens? Players like to look for excuses when losing continues.
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I found the amount of negativity last night annoying. Many of the most critical posters were the same ones predicting a non competitive blowout.
That game was anything but. I found myself invested Emotionally in the game until the Hillman fumble, the games are fun again.
Undermanned team with the ball, one score down, nine minutes left. Defense showed some fight, I m encouraged.
Looking ahead to the bye, 5-5 4-6 are possibilities. If the OP is correct, and they beat a quality team, we have some meaningful games down the stretch
I really think much of the negativity here is spawned by the contentiousness among posters regarding different POV,
It seems there is sometimes more interest in getting to say, “I told you so” then actually rooting for the team. It makes objective dialogue impossible, and the game threads entertaining, but comical.
People vent. If you go by game threads there would be about three players worthy enough going forward.
They do have issue. I see some very good and difficult building blocks and not every player is going to be a star.
I do believe it is reasonable to expect wins in the division this year and this is more critical than just wins. This tide has to turn to move forward in division games imo.
Shurmur is still a big question to me. His winning percentage is awful and he needs to win. Now that the Eli stuff is over with the next target is going to be him with the media. How soon before the players then start to agree when that happens? Players like to look for excuses when losing continues.
Agree about Shurmur. I understand he s been handed some crappy teams. But soon, vert soon , he needs to demonstrate he can win. I also agree that a win against Dallas and Philly would be a big stride
You say the team will be a good one at years end but the Head Coach stinks. So what is the solution? Go into next year with a poor Head Coach?
Absolutely, you have to build a team and it starts with learning how to win games. Yes there was NFW they were winning this game but having a good showing on the road, undermanned against the defending champs means something to a team. Improvement is a process you don't just become a contender all at once ala the "dream team".
Are you sure? I feel like they were showing blitz a ton, bit mostly rushing 4.
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You are either getting better, having the same result or getting worse. This mentality is exactly why the team won't move forward.
You say the team will be a good one at years end but the Head Coach stinks. So what is the solution? Go into next year with a poor Head Coach?
Absolutely, you have to build a team and it starts with learning how to win games. Yes there was NFW they were winning this game but having a good showing on the road, undermanned against the defending champs means something to a team. Improvement is a process you don't just become a contender all at once ala the "dream team".
Yes it is a process. Second year coaching staff should be able to muster wins in Division and not just Washington. This is the biggest hurdle this team needs to overcome to press forward.
How many fans when we play the Eagles or Cowboys are expecting a win? Do you think the franchise and team feels the same way? It needs to change regardless of win total.
I guess your theory that this team wins games without Eli blew up so now you have the "he'll get better " excuse. Gino Smith proved it is not Eli. And yes Geno is a better QB than DJ at least right now if not always. This guy showed me he was 1 trick pony that will start running on 3rd and long. A delayed ILB blitz negated it. Vikings figured it out. Patriots copied them with much success.
This was a broken team. It was a broken locker-room. Without Shurmur we might not have picked Daniel Jones who I really believe was a good choice. I also believe Shurmur is the right coach to groom him.
I also see a team that does not quit. They played the entire game last night - lost - but I did not see blaming going on and I saw players angry at themselves not each other.
I saw our defense score a touchdown and Golden carried that ball all the way to the coach and gave it to him. That shows a lot of proof of how these players respect him.
So you can hat his style, and you can hate his decisions. He might not be the coach to bring us to the promise land but he is what this team needs right now.
Groom a young QB into an franchise QB. Fix a complete loss of control of a locker-room and promote leadership and culture. He was hired to keep a patchwork team competing during a rebuild.
He is fixing more than he is breaking. You are watching a learning ball club. A mix of veterans and young players. Did you see that play where Baker bit on the inside when we was supposed to contain, he got chewed out by the veteran behind him and they moved forward. This is on the job training with a coach who is controlling their emotions.
The mistakes on fixable, players making mistake due to lack of experience or lack of talent. But they are not getting discouraged and I see a noticeable improvement among the younger guys.
You feel like this team was going to be an overnight success.
A lot of teams look terrible against the #1 defense despite having a veteran QB and very good QB. A lot of teams look terrible against Brady and Julian Edelman despite having a veteran healthy defense.
So while we might wish that Shurmur made a different game day decision here or their - there are bigger problems than those to fix and I think Shurmur is fixing them.
I am sure I will hear complaints from the "we are wasting Barkley prime" fan club, even though Barkley wasnt even available to play. Who knows that game could have looked like if was in there.
Sorry football fans, Every play is not going to be perfect. Every tackle is not going to be made. It sucks and I want us to be better too but patience is a virtue.
I have to wonder if you were a Patriots Fan and watch that game - watch a team that has won 6 superbowls and has the greatest coach of all time --- "What kind of throw was that Brady - he is an old bum- that needs to benched for that interception!" -- "What the hell are you doing Coach going for it when you it is 4th multiple times and not converting - we need a new coach --
This is what you sound like to me.
This was a broken team. It was a broken locker-room. Without Shurmur we might not have picked Daniel Jones who I really believe was a good choice. I also believe Shurmur is the right coach to groom him.
I also see a team that does not quit. They played the entire game last night - lost - but I did not see blaming going on and I saw players angry at themselves not each other.
I saw our defense score a touchdown and Golden carried that ball all the way to the coach and gave it to him. That shows a lot of proof of how these players respect him.
So you can hat his style, and you can hate his decisions. He might not be the coach to bring us to the promise land but he is what this team needs right now.
Groom a young QB into an franchise QB. Fix a complete loss of control of a locker-room and promote leadership and culture. He was hired to keep a patchwork team competing during a rebuild.
He is fixing more than he is breaking. You are watching a learning ball club. A mix of veterans and young players. Did you see that play where Baker bit on the inside when we was supposed to contain, he got chewed out by the veteran behind him and they moved forward. This is on the job training with a coach who is controlling their emotions.
The mistakes on fixable, players making mistake due to lack of experience or lack of talent. But they are not getting discouraged and I see a noticeable improvement among the younger guys.
You feel like this team was going to be an overnight success.
A lot of teams look terrible against the #1 defense despite having a veteran QB and very good QB. A lot of teams look terrible against Brady and Julian Edelman despite having a veteran healthy defense.
So while we might wish that Shurmur made a different game day decision here or their - there are bigger problems than those to fix and I think Shurmur is fixing them.
I am sure I will hear complaints from the "we are wasting Barkley prime" fan club, even though Barkley wasnt even available to play. Who knows that game could have looked like if was in there.
Sorry football fans, Every play is not going to be perfect. Every tackle is not going to be made. It sucks and I want us to be better too but patience is a virtue.
I have to wonder if you were a Patriots Fan and watch that game - watch a team that has won 6 superbowls and has the greatest coach of all time --- "What kind of throw was that Brady - he is an old bum- that needs to benched for that interception!" -- "What the hell are you doing Coach going for it when you it is 4th multiple times and not converting - we need a new coach --
This is what you sound like to me.
this team is 2-4 and should be 1-5 if not for missed chip shot. The patriots covered a 16.5 point spread last night. You lost 18 to the Vikings. The pats are 6-0. What planet are you on?
On the "unexpected" note, I would like to give some credit to David Mayo, his play surprised me. He looked much better last night than he did against MIN, may have something to do with not having Stupar next to him...
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Some of you hate Shurmur and I understand some of your points. But sometimes you have to take the bad with the good and you need to give coaches time.
This was a broken team. It was a broken locker-room. Without Shurmur we might not have picked Daniel Jones who I really believe was a good choice. I also believe Shurmur is the right coach to groom him.
I also see a team that does not quit. They played the entire game last night - lost - but I did not see blaming going on and I saw players angry at themselves not each other.
I saw our defense score a touchdown and Golden carried that ball all the way to the coach and gave it to him. That shows a lot of proof of how these players respect him.
So you can hat his style, and you can hate his decisions. He might not be the coach to bring us to the promise land but he is what this team needs right now.
Groom a young QB into an franchise QB. Fix a complete loss of control of a locker-room and promote leadership and culture. He was hired to keep a patchwork team competing during a rebuild.
He is fixing more than he is breaking. You are watching a learning ball club. A mix of veterans and young players. Did you see that play where Baker bit on the inside when we was supposed to contain, he got chewed out by the veteran behind him and they moved forward. This is on the job training with a coach who is controlling their emotions.
The mistakes on fixable, players making mistake due to lack of experience or lack of talent. But they are not getting discouraged and I see a noticeable improvement among the younger guys.
You feel like this team was going to be an overnight success.
A lot of teams look terrible against the #1 defense despite having a veteran QB and very good QB. A lot of teams look terrible against Brady and Julian Edelman despite having a veteran healthy defense.
So while we might wish that Shurmur made a different game day decision here or their - there are bigger problems than those to fix and I think Shurmur is fixing them.
I am sure I will hear complaints from the "we are wasting Barkley prime" fan club, even though Barkley wasnt even available to play. Who knows that game could have looked like if was in there.
Sorry football fans, Every play is not going to be perfect. Every tackle is not going to be made. It sucks and I want us to be better too but patience is a virtue.
I have to wonder if you were a Patriots Fan and watch that game - watch a team that has won 6 superbowls and has the greatest coach of all time --- "What kind of throw was that Brady - he is an old bum- that needs to benched for that interception!" -- "What the hell are you doing Coach going for it when you it is 4th multiple times and not converting - we need a new coach --
This is what you sound like to me.
this team is 2-4 and should be 1-5 if not for missed chip shot. The patriots covered a 16.5 point spread last night. You lost 18 to the Vikings. The pats are 6-0. What planet are you on?
Awww, poor Big_N lost a few sheckles last night, such a shame. The team battled, competed, and lost to a superior team, things to learn from. Some of you need to catch a clue about the difference between this team and team from a couple of season's ago which did nothing but point fingers and worry about their own personal stats.
That game was anything but. I found myself invested Emotionally in the game until the Hillman fumble, the games are fun again.
Undermanned team with the ball, one score down, nine minutes left. Defense showed some fight, I m encouraged.
Looking ahead to the bye, 5-5 4-6 are possibilities. If the OP is correct, and they beat a quality team, we have some meaningful games down the stretch
I really think much of the negativity here is spawned by the contentiousness among posters regarding different POV,
It seems there is sometimes more interest in getting to say, “I told you so” then actually rooting for the team. It makes objective dialogue impossible, and the game threads entertaining, but comical.
+1000 How many posts in the first Qtr blasted Tate and then cheering when he scores, just moronic.
I guess your theory that this team wins games without Eli blew up so now you have the "he'll get better " excuse. Gino Smith proved it is not Eli. And yes Geno is a better QB than DJ at least right now if not always. This guy showed me he was 1 trick pony that will start running on 3rd and long. A delayed ILB blitz negated it. Vikings figured it out. Patriots copied them with much success.
Well I guess you can include Brady in your assessment as he was having the same problems in the first half that Jones did.
Just so you know, I think you mean "won" not "one". But what do I know?
Not to mention by taking Jones so high we missed the opportunity to get some great young talent on D that this team so badly needs. This magically becaoe a "rebuilding season" and grooming Jones season? OK it idn't start that way. THey basically got caught with their pants down at 0-2 and knew this D wasn't going to stop anybody. So now to ake things worse -- you have a ELI Manning riding pine talking up a big chunk of your cap ad can't do much on free agents. But yea Jones and his 3 picks are all that matters.